barret m82a1 sniper rifle

I have yet to see anyone prefer a other heavy sniper over the barret why is that?

Originally posted by tomcat ha
I have yet to see anyone prefer a other heavy sniper over the barret why is that?

Maybe because spare parts, etc. are easy to get it being so popular? I don't know just guessin wishin n' hopin

[edit on 20-3-2005 by Numbnutz]

The M82A1A Barret is simply the most well known and practical .50caliber Anti-Material Rifle, however the Russians aren't far behind with the even more powerful OSV-96, it uses a 12.7x108mm round, the recoil is probably severe and can't be fired while standing, only has a 5 round box magazine compared to a 10 round mag on the barrett.

Or you could go with this sexy beast: Accuracy International AS50 which is in .50BMG, again a 5 round magazine.

And for severe overkill, you could go with the NTW-20 which is in both 20mm and 14.5mm, doesn't this look like the sniper rifle from Halo?

Or better yet, the RT-20, This monster can take our IFV's and APC's.


[edit on 20/3/2005 by GrOuNd_ZeRo]

WyrdOne you have to take into account mobility... urban warfare relies heavily on mobility... you must constantly change positions to evade counter-sniping and the M-82 is just too heavy...
Even a team on tall buildings equipped with an M-82 can do nothing, the urban battlefield is huge u have tons of places where enemy snipers could hide, or approach u without being noticed the extra range of the M-82 will do nothing, a matter of fact ask veterans the range of urban engagements rarely exceeds 750m.

P.S: not every street in the world is linear so the view range is very limited.
And contrary to common belief staying too long on a roof isn't a good choice... u may have a better view but you'll mostly be instantly spotted ( a dark figurette moving in front of a bright background) and a sniper entrenched near window will have a good time shooting you.

But overall the M-82 is good but not usefull in urban warfare.

GZ ive often heared that a 5 round mag is much better than a 10 round mag for sneaking around.

I still prefer the Gepard over all those others as i rather have high accuracy and a deadlier bullet then a lighter rifle.

Gepard info: www.geocities.com...

In terms of longest kill, i surrepticiously swiped this off another forum.

The longest-ever confirmed sniper kill was made by Master Cpl. Arron Perry of the Canadian Armed Forces in Afghanistan during combat in 2003. Using a .50-caliber MacMillan TAC-50 rifle, Perry shot and killed an Afghan soldier from a distance of 2,430 metres.

The record was set during Operation Anaconda when a Canadian three-man sniper team from the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, (PPCLI), set the new record with a shot on a Taliban fighter

That's about 1.5 miles That, my friends, is a truly amazing feat. The bullet was in the air for four seconds and dropped 146 feet. About 250 meters longer than Carlos Hathcock's famous shot.

www.worldaffairsboard.com...

The .50 is a kickass concept. Yet there's rumblings of the concept being developed further as a "payload rifle" using the same basic body but using a 25mm round. Truely a beast.

www.barrettrifles.com...

That 25mm gun is rather a grenade launcher in the way it's used, but should proof to be very useful

I'd rather stick with a .338 lapua round than go for a .50bmg round or even a 14.5mm round...

Id rather have high quality .50 russian.

What is it gonna be? 14.5mm or 12.7mm? I don't want no round that makes any part of the body explode, i'd settle for a round that just blows a chunk of flesh and skin out

okay i should rephrase that. If i need to take a .50 round ill take .50 russian

What crap! Ever shoot one? Didn't think so it should not be mentioned in the same breath as those others.

There are sub minute of angle rifles out there that also would make good sniper tools.


Now THIS is a sniper rifle.

Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
It could be considdered a heavy sniper rifle, but this round is overkill really, you need to be REALLY good if you plan to hit something a mile away. or really lucky like that Canadian.

I'd prefer a .308 or .338 lapua Mg since I wont bother with a weapon with such tremendous recoil...

I'd pick these guns over the Barrett any day:

AMP DSR-1
www.world.guns.ru...

H&K PSG-1 or MSG-90
www.world.guns.ru...
www.world.guns.ru...

Dragunov SVD
www.world.guns.ru...

I'd probably pick the MSG-90 since it's semi-automatic, based on the superior accuracy of the PSG-1, lighter than the PSG-1 and nicer looking...(if that matters any lol)

The Dragunov is a DECENT rifle, it's round it's quite powerful, it's semi-automatic and it has a MOA less than 2 at about 600m which isn't too bad at all for the price.

Any of us could probably afford a Dragunov, and it's THE best sniper rifle for the price, technically it might not be a true sniper rifle since it's more of a designated markman rifle like the MSG-90.

The Dragunov definitly deserved a mention IMO...

That 25mm cannon has such heavy recoil, it might as well have been a bolt-action gun since you have to reaim that beast after every shot, a .308 wouldn't have strayed much from the target.

What the hell do you guys have against russian weapons? geez...be nice...

I wonder at what rang it is supposed to be able to penetrate 50 mm. I guess it would do that at about say 1 km? Does anybody here have any more knowledge about the Gepard M6 btw? I have searched everywhere for its penetration capability. I have only made a calculated guess that it can penetrate 60 mm at 500 m.

What do I have against russian weapons? American weapons are almost always better. The 1911 is more comfortable, powerful, and accurate, than a 9x18 Makarov, and just as reliable. The M-14 is far more powerful and accurate than the AK-47, the M24 and M40 are very accurate rifles, and the SVD is not that accurate. The SVD is also less comfortable. The M16 is more accurate and longer range than the AK, but its less reliable and has less stopping power. Its the only case where I would choose a russian over american weapon. Besides, the AK is so reliable. Thats about the only russian gun thats superior. If you think an SVD is accurate, and you think 600 yards is a long ways, you should practice some more.

in different ways less precise WAY more rugged. Would I want a Russian built sniper rifle NO a Russian built shotgun... hell yeah. (Love my Kalishnkov 12 gauge)

Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
The Dragunov is a DECENT rifle, it's round it's quite powerful, it's semi-automatic and it has a MOA less than 2 at about 600m which isn't too bad at all for the price.

Any of us could probably afford a Dragunov, and it's THE best sniper rifle for the price, technically it might not be a true sniper rifle since it's more of a designated markman rifle like the MSG-90.

The Dragunov definitly deserved a mention IMO...

That 25mm cannon has such heavy recoil, it might as well have been a bolt-action gun since you have to reaim that beast after every shot, a .308 wouldn't have strayed much from the target.

What the hell do you guys have against russian weapons?

geez...be nice...

The Tokarev TT is more comparable to the M1911, the Makarov PM is more comparable to the US M9, however the PM is about as big as a Walter PK which it's based on.

The M1911 is by far the better pistol since it's cardridge is so powerful, however doesn't have a long range and it's muzzle velocity is only 850fps.

The TT I never really liked, the PM...I don't like that either, almost as bad as having a .38 pistol, however the improved 9x18 ammo is much better.

I personally like the PYa Grach, very new looking and good cardridge...

The M14 is a great rifle, however it's recoil is unacceptable and the AK's recoil is alot milder, but the M14's accuracy is unmatched.

The SVD is more comparable to a Designated Markman rifle the US was trying to implent, pretty much like the XM-8 DMR.

The M24 and M40 are both bolt action rifles, the Russians have the SV-98 as their bolt-action rifle, although it's not used by their military.

How is the MOA on the M21?

Personally I would prefer something like...

SVD

Gewehr 42 or Ruger

Something made by Accuracy International

The old Springfield 05

You have to repect a rifle type that has the longest ever recorded confirmed kill. A Canadian SpecOps sniper Master Cpl. Arron Perry broke Carlos Hathcock's recorded with a 50 cal. That kill was preformed with a Tac-50 which is pretty much the canadian equivalent of the American bolt action barrett.

I like the Barrett personally over the Tac-50, Barrett makes the best muzzle brake on the planet for their 50 cals. Or if I was going for a smaller round a PSG-1 though they are so expensive

[edit on 28-3-2005 by ShadowXIX]

Originally posted by JamesBlonde
Personally I would prefer something like...

Dragunov SVD

The old Gewehr 43? or Erma SR-100 looks nice

Something (anything) made by Accuracy International

The old Springfield 05

M-14 heavy recoil? compared to ??

The M-21 is about 1 moa while the M-40, M-24 are < 1 moa
the SVD is > 1 moa.

The SVD is built on an inherently inaccurate action more rugged less acurate it's a trade off.

Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
The Tokarev TT is more comparable to the M1911, the Makarov PM is more comparable to the US M9, however the PM is about as big as a Walter PK which it's based on.

The M1911 is by far the better pistol since it's cardridge is so powerful, however doesn't have a long range and it's muzzle velocity is only 850fps.

The TT I never really liked, the PM...I don't like that either, almost as bad as having a .38 pistol, however the improved 9x18 ammo is much better.

I personally like the PYa Grach, very new looking and good cardridge...

The M14 is a great rifle, however it's recoil is unacceptable and the AK's recoil is alot milder, but the M14's accuracy is unmatched.

The SVD is more comparable to a Designated Markman rifle the US was trying to implent, pretty much like the XM-8 DMR.

The M24 and M40 are both bolt action rifles, the Russians have the SV-98 as their bolt-action rifle, although it's not used by their military.

How is the MOA on the M21?