barret m82a1 sniper rifle

i would like to see your guy's feelings on the barret .50 cal sniper rifle.
post as fallows if you want
1. If you think it was unnesscery(check spelling)
2. what it should be used on/ tanks-humnas-etc.
3. anything else

If you think it was unecessary? what does that mean? A waste of US taxdollars?

I dont,. I dont think it can take out a tank but it could probably take out small vehicles by shooting their engine out. I doubt a hummer because hummers probably have armored engines.

I think it is a cool sniper rifle. It has dual purpose of taking out vehicles and enemy infantry. And can probably shoot through walls.

[edit on 12-3-2005 by Ritual]

I have a gepard m6 over a barret anyday.

Originally posted by Ritual
And can probably shoot through walls.

[edit on 12-3-2005 by Ritual]

It can definitely shoot through walls. even 5.56 can do that.

The M82A1 and the new M107 are exclusively used as an Counter-Sniper or Anti-Material weapon, the .50BMG round is often considdered too heavy to use as a sniper weapon, the Barrett is an excellent weapon though, it's recoil is only as much as a 12ga...even though that's quite alot for a scoped weapon.

Here is all i need to say: oooooooooooo

oh my!!!

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The .50 BMG round is very good for sniping, It retains great energy and accuracy at VERY great ranges. 2700 yards downrange it still has more retained energy than a .44 mag at the MUZZLE! Carlos Hathcock R.I.P., took
out a NVA soldier with one at 2500 meters (do the math, thats a LOONG shot). also there is a wide selection of submunitions available...

I'll take a M82 please...

It could be considdered a heavy sniper rifle, but this round is overkill really, you need to be REALLY good if you plan to hit something a mile away. or really lucky like that Canadian.

I'd prefer a .308 or .338 lapua Mg since I wont bother with a weapon with such tremendous recoil...

I'd pick these guns over the Barrett any day:

AMP DSR-1
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H&K PSG-1 or MSG-90
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Dragunov SVD
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I'd probably pick the MSG-90 since it's semi-automatic, based on the superior accuracy of the PSG-1, lighter than the PSG-1 and nicer looking...(if that matters any lol)

The main advantage of the .50 round is that the projectile is big enough to be able to fill it with HE etc.
Walls are no protection against a round of this power, making it ideal for the urban warfare of Iraq.

Meh 14.5 mm M6 gepard will be more accurate and powerfull altrough the rifle weighs 5 kilos extra. Which does controll recoil a bit tho

Of course all these material penetration rifles are monsters. But when they can be effectively used why not? Never people argued about shooting humans with 37 mm helicopter rockets for example. At least with a well placed sniper round the death will be quick and the enemy doesnt have to suffer like he often has to when hit by explosive weapons(apart from getting a limb shot off, but that would be bad luck I guess

BTW that Hathcock vietnam shot was done with a single-shot .50 cal Machinegun with added scope, he built it himself, what a funny idea... though I dont think the range is right, I remember it was 1400m or so. It was the canadian soldier in Afghanistan that had the ca. 2500m shot.


[edit on 17-3-2005 by Lonestar24]

The M82 is far from unnecessary, it’s the right tool for the right job or it never would have been built in the first place. And besides AFAIK Barrett didn’t invent the concept of a .50 sniper weapon, they just build what there is a market or demand for.


I remember the shot Hathcock made at 2500 yds with a modified Browning M2 from his book. I got curious and googled looking for a picture of his setup; because IIRC there was one in the book. I couldn’t find a picture, but I did find this


At approx. 2500 yards, with a .50 caliber M2 machine gun
and with a Unerti scope mounted on it, GySgt. Hathcock took out the target with one shot. In simple terms, the distance was 1.42 miles


1.42 miles

[edit on 17-3-2005 by warpboost]

Aah that stupid unscientific imperial stuff again... 1.400 (m)eters or 1.400 (m)iles - you never know what they mean Dont flame me, just my humble opinion

Originally posted by warpboost


At approx. 2500 yards, with a .50 caliber M2 machine gun
and with a Unerti scope mounted on it, GySgt. Hathcock took out the target with one shot. In simple terms, the distance was 1.42 miles


1.42 miles

[edit on 17-3-2005 by warpboost]

It wasn't one shot it was 3 across a valley with a 10* Unertl scope. However he does hold the longest shot for a 7.62mm round at 1.92 km for a single round kill in Vietnam.

The Candian took 2 rounds to hit his mark. the first slightly off and the second ( the target didn't move because he didn't here the gunshot ) was corrected.

[edit on 18-3-2005 by rogue1]

I heard the shot was purely by chance...he was aiming for a vehicle...

I know .50BMG weapons are not invented by Barrett, but Barrett made this rifle managable and semi-auto...

Take in considderation you need to reaim the Barrett after every shot due to the recoil, and a Bi-pod is a must...

I prefer a semi-auto in a less severe caliber, I don't like over-penetration of a M82 either, I care about collateral damage.

There is no such thing as overpenetration >: )

the barret is good on open battlefields.... but urban warfare.... hehe it's more a burden than a real advantage

Originally posted by Bl00D_Th0rN
the barret is good on open battlefields.... but urban warfare.... hehe it's more a burden than a real advantage

I disagree completely. This tool is perfect for urban battlefields. You find a nice TALL building, with good vantage point. In Manhattan, two teams of four could set up in the Chrysler and Empire State buildings, one man per cardinal direction. The two teams could cover damn near the entire island of Manhattan and each other. Take Chicago, same deal in the Sears Tower and Cheese Grater building. Hell, right by where I live there's an observation platform on top of an old factory, with a single big boy rifle and a crate of ammo I could control all traffic in and out of my town for weeks.

The round may be overkill against fleshy targets, but it works wonders against vehicle engines, and that's really what it's designed for. And in all honesty, dead is dead, and if anything, this round inflicts less suffering, simply because of the massive amount of trauma it induces. When you've got a red, leaking bump where your arm used to be, there's no pain, just terror, and quickly..darkness. Shock sets in instantly, death follows soon after. It's no more cruel than killing your target with a howitzer, and we do that without blinking.

If I were the NWO, I would fear this rifle. If I were the cops, I would fear this rifle. And they do! Sure, you can snipe on men with a Dragunov, but you can't take out trucks or APCs. With a .50 cal you can pretty much rule the roost against everything out there, even helicopters and tanks (knock out the tread pins).

Originally posted by minimi

Originally posted by Ritual
And can probably shoot through walls.

[edit on 12-3-2005 by Ritual]

It can definitely shoot through walls. even 5.56 can do that.

Yes sir ee, I heard the 50. cal went through 7 houses
Don't know about the thickness of the walls though..prolly african huts or something In FDF tests the Barrett jammed and double fired sometimes Are we the only ones with such problems?

[edit on 20-3-2005 by Numbnutz]