Very Good News

a reply to: 111DPKING111

I wonder how many of the instances of lung damage were caused by the ventilators and intubations?

originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: 111DPKING111
I wonder how many of the instances of lung damage were caused by the ventilators and intubations?

Most, if not all, apparently...

Of course, waiting for doctors to admit this... well, how long did it take for them to listen to Dr. Semmelweis and stop murdering women who were simply there giving birth to their children?

a reply to: tanstaafl

Yup.

Im really hoping folks start looking into this stuff.

I mean, we still see the whole HCQ being talked about without any mention of zinc. At best, its mentioned in passing. Usually its ignored or dismissed entirely.

Its not The Vaccine, amirite?

Plenty of the research isnt even remotely "new." (thats just the first link in a duckduckgo search too).

If this doesnt all spiral out of control (not talking about a virus), I think there might be a reckoning. It concerns me what some might do to avoid those consequences, even the mere possibility of consequences.

a reply to: Serdgiam

Tanstaafl has more faith in his abilities than I do in mine. IF i get checked in, not going to tell them how to do their job. But I do agree, they dont use the best information always available in treating people, thats why i would make sure it doesnt get to that point.

Working with my own special needs child and heart attack patients at work, it is amazing how far behind your doctors are concerning supplementation and natural treatment methods.

Even without quercetin/ zinc combo, i would think there would be more focus on getting peoples immunity up with

-Sleep
-Exercise,
-Multivitamin (Vit A, C, D3, K2, Selenium, and zinc)


Some vitamin Tips !
Best vitamin A source is COD oil like wiley's fish oil, just make sure you get 2000+ IU of vitamin D with it. Vitamin A in most vitamins is poorly converted in the body to the form you need.

Most multivitamins do not have enough calcium / magnesium since it would take up the whole pill. Unfortunately , magnesium is a nutrient most people are deficient in.

Make sure your multi has Vitamin k2, not k1. If it doesnt specify, assume k1. How many heart attacks would be saved by this and magnesium alone..

Even if you eat a really good diet - you will need extra K2, magnesium, and most likely D(unless you get plenty of sun). If you eat little fish, omega3s are also a common deficiency.

As you get older, digestive enzymes(stomach makes less and less acid) and collagen (body makes less and less after 30) should be considered.

a reply to: Serdgiam

Personally I believe if people were taking adequate zinc supplementation, during the period of this emergency, it wouldn't be an emergency. The fact that zinc is ignored makes me suspicious that certain aspects of this pandemic are suspicious. That's just from personal use of it during bad flu seasons. Take Boris dying one minute then chatting and out of ICU the next. Russian troll suggesting British doctors are following some sort of party line and not using the stuff, and having to fly back to Moscow where its being used to get treated. The fact that their is heavy censorship on media platforms, and the mockingbird media, makes me think that their is either a vast shortage of the Drugs required in the West or they are handling this outbreak for some other agenda. Or perhaps all the above. I note Britain seems to be using second world war propaganda, to drum up some nationalistic fervor. So I guess there it would be unpatriotic to ask where is my Zinc and Chloroquine supplements.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Serdgiam

Personally I believe if people were taking adequate zinc supplementation, during the period of this emergency, it wouldn't be an emergency. The fact that zinc is ignored makes me suspicious that certain aspects of this pandemic are suspicious. That's just from personal use of it during bad flu seasons. Take Boris dying one minute then chatting and out of ICU the next. Russian troll suggesting British doctors are following some sort of party line and not using the stuff, and having to fly back to Moscow where its being used to get treated. The fact that their is heavy censorship on media platforms, and the mockingbird media, makes me think that their is either a vast shortage of the Drugs required in the West or they are handling this outbreak for some other agenda. Or perhaps all the above. I note Britain seems to be using second world war propaganda, to drum up some nationalistic fervor. So I guess there it would be unpatriotic to ask where is my Zinc and Chloroquine supplements.

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko used 50 mg of zinc (from 220 mg of zinc sulfate) for five days, that's 250 mg of zinc in 1,100 mg of zinc sulfate. You can buy a kilogram of zinc sulfate from a supplier for less than 40$, enough for 909 treatments. The cost per treatment is less than 5 cents.

Rob Elens, a Dutch GP, has successfully treated patients with hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and zinc orotate Zinc orotate has a molecular weight of 375.6, so zinc orotate has a mass 375.6 / 65.4 = 5.74 times greater than the zinc. The article doesn't say how much zinc he used for the entire treatment, assuming it's the same 250 mg, the weight of the zinc orotate would be 1,435 mg. You can buy a kilogram of zinc orotate from a supplier for less than 100$, enough for 697 treatments. The cost per treatment is less than 15 cents.

Zinc is a common metal, and it is a micronutrient for people. I am not sure why the government, media, and medical industry complex are doing their best to deny people zinc, but it's not because of cost or supply.

originally posted by: RumannXylo
I am not sure why the government, media, and medical industry complex are doing their best to deny people zinc, but it's not because of cost or supply.

Isn't it obvious?

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: RumannXylo
I am not sure why the government, media, and medical industry complex are doing their best to deny people zinc, but it's not because of cost or supply.

Isn't it obvious?

Supposedly the Canandian group doesnt want to promote false hope... but as long as you are up front about it. I dont see the issue. (see last line of the article)

Chris Centeno, MD is a specialist in regenerative medicine - "At this point, I do have my family on this supplement. Do I know it works for sure? No, but the circumstantial evidence is good enough for me"

Research Overview of Quercetin with Influenza, Ebola, Zika, Hepatitis


DARPA(Defense Agency within DoD) licensed a quercetin cocktail as chews to resellers like this ONE to prevent colds and influenza
Key Active Ingredients: QB3C™ (Quercetin + Vitamin B3 + Vitamin C) + Folic Acid (B9)
30 individually wrapped chews. 250 milligrams of Quercetin per chew.
We recommend eating 2-4 Q-Force chews per day.

From DARPA report

In a randomized, placebo-controlled
study, Quercetin helped prevent viral illnesses, like colds and flu, after physical exertion.
Following a strenuous three day exercise routine, 50 percent of the control group became ill with
colds and flu, whereas only five percent of the Quercetin supplemented group did.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Interesting with regards about copper.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: tanstaafl

Interesting with regards about copper.

It looks effective, but you can easily permanently damage your nose by shoving something into it. I would never use this.

However, spraying copper up your nose is safe. Also, manganese was used as a disinfectant for cleaning contaminated surfaces, bathing wounds, and treating halitosis. There is a copper, manganese, and hypertonic salt spray Sterimar which looks good. It can also be bought in North America.

Never stick anything up your nose, there are other, safer ways of clearing your nose.

Dosage info for the double blind DARPA study fromLife Extension
-1000 mg daily along with vit C and B3 and Folic acid
-Took 2 weeks before stressing subjects in 3rd week with endurance cycling
-50 percent of the control group became ill with colds and flu, only 5 percent of the Quercetin group became sick.

DARPA(Defense Agency within DoD) licensed the quercetin cocktail as chews to resellers like this ONE to prevent colds and influenza

Key Active Ingredients: QB3C™ (Quercetin + Vitamin B3 + Vitamin C) + Folic Acid (B9)
30 individually wrapped chews. 250 milligrams of Quercetin per chew.
We recommend eating 2-4 Q-Force chews per day.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: RumannXylo
I am not sure why the government, media, and medical industry complex are doing their best to deny people zinc, but it's not because of cost or supply.

Isn't it obvious?

I didn't want to speculate in that post because that would detract from the information in that post, so I'll speculate in this post.

At the simpler level, the governments want to take people's money with a depression and transfer it to banks/government by money printing, vaccinate/inject people with anything, boost the pharmaceutical industry, prevent people from posting anything against the mainstream narrative, and in general break the independence of people.

At the cabal level, a plan was to have a war, then unleash the coronavirus bioweapon killing half of humanity, then invoke something else to kill half of the remainder. Afterwards rule in perpetuity over the remaining people who were totally demoralized and broken by the deaths of three quarters of humanity. However, their plan needed a war first then the bioweapon, without the sequence their plan would fail. They released the bioweapon as a last roll of the dice because they did not get their war, and they'll try to switch us to a vaccine certificate timeline. This won't work either, but they'll do damage as they go down. The sooner they go down, the less damage they'll do.

originally posted by: RumannXylo

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: RumannXylo
I am not sure why the government, media, and medical industry complex are doing their best to deny people zinc, but it's not because of cost or supply.

Isn't it obvious?

I didn't want to speculate in that post because that would detract from the information in that post, so I'll speculate in this post.

At the simpler level, the governments want to take people's money with a depression and transfer it to banks/government by money printing, vaccinate/inject people with anything, boost the pharmaceutical industry, prevent people from posting anything against the mainstream narrative, and in general break the independence of people.

At the cabal level, a plan was to have a war, then unleash the coronavirus bioweapon killing half of humanity, then invoke something else to kill half of the remainder. Afterwards rule in perpetuity over the remaining people who were totally demoralized and broken by the deaths of three quarters of humanity. However, their plan needed a war first then the bioweapon, without the sequence their plan would fail. They released the bioweapon as a last roll of the dice because they did not get their war, and they'll try to switch us to a vaccine certificate timeline. This won't work either, but they'll do damage as they go down. The sooner they go down, the less damage they'll do.

As I keep saying, governments local up to "Cabal" level are just people. They are fallible.

Clearly this "Cabal" blew it with their virus if it was supposed to kill "half of humanity".

The Cabal's scientific arm, the CWHA ((Cabal World Health Agency) radically overestimate their figures, using early Wuhan, Italy and NY data. It's part of the process and they will get it figured out once more data comes in Im sure.

Then again Carlos, the lead virologist died of a columbian necktie yesterday so we have to get him replaced.

For those that dont know, the ATS equivalent for supplement discussion is Longecity. If self diagnosis makes you queezy, might want to stay out.

Of course there is also the internet black hole, reddit.com. Interestingly enough, they are censoring discussion on covid treatment.


Research Overview of Quercetin with Influenza, Ebola, Zika, Hepatitis

DARPA(Defense Agency within DoD) licensed a quercetin cocktail as chews to resellers like this ONE to prevent colds and influenza
Key Active Ingredients: QB3C™ (Quercetin + Vitamin B3 + Vitamin C) + Folic Acid (B9)
30 individually wrapped chews. 250 milligrams of Quercetin per chew.
We recommend eating 2-4 Q-Force chews per day.

From DARPA report

In a randomized, placebo-controlled
study, Quercetin helped prevent viral illnesses, like colds and flu, after physical exertion.
Following a strenuous three day exercise routine, 50 percent of the control group became ill with
colds and flu, whereas only five percent of the Quercetin supplemented group did.

Regimen - 4 chews a day for 1000mg of Quercetin

originally posted by: 111DPKING111
a reply to: Serdgiam
Tanstaafl has more faith in his abilities than I do in mine.

You can acquire it, it isn't hard, but does take some time and effort.

It is amazing what you can find online... you just have to learn how to tell the wheat from the chaff, and that isn't too hard either. In fact, most of the proof of what I've been saying is in the very same medical literature that Doctors always refer to, it simply is ignored.

The good news is, that is changing. People are waking up.

The biggest hurdle to Humanity's evolution.

Isn't money, isn't wars, isn't even viruses

It's Politics.


( I mean, Google & Microsoft are working together during this time, yet all I see from our "leaders" is elementary school concepts being played out )

Full Immunity breakdown from the Linus Pauling Institute , IMO one of the best sources for nutrition.
They cover - Vitamin D, C, A, B, E, zinc, iron, selenium, Copper, Omega 3s, probiotics, and obesity.

They also have a COVID specific page that is similar to the Harvard page.
They highlight Vitamin D, C, zinc, and Omegas. Both recommend a multivitamin along with specifics for older adults. A digestive enzyme for seniors would help in absorbing key nutrients.

TheHealthBeat.com offers a good review of multivitamins (senior page)

If you are going increase your vitamin D intake to 4000 iu, it will really mess with your internal calcium unless you are getting vitamin k2 and an extra calcium/magnesium supplement. No one or two a day multivitamin has the recommended calcium/magnesium because it takes 2 pills just for these 2 nutrients alone. See thehealthbeat.com for the long explanation.


For Virus prevention/treatment, I think Quercetin (research overview) is the best bet. Many wellness sites are recommending 250mg x2 daily. If you have symptoms, 500mg 2x + 10mg of zinc -regimen discussion. Quercetin is normally sold with vitamin c or bromelain to help with absorption.

a reply to: tanstaafl

My motherinlaw went through chemo treatment , wound up with mouth sores because it wasnt administered correctly. It was a dubious treatment to begin with given her age and health, but compounded by the hospital.

I would be concerned asking a hospital to do Vit C IV, i would make sure it is something they are familiar with.

I have also been victimized by hospitals - after having a stomach hernia surgery, 5 years later I develop a small intestine obstruction(scar tissue grabs the intestine). I was never told about this possible future issue and then when treated(stomach slowly pumped for 4 days) I was told it was something I should expect in the future. Try to eat low residue diet(unhealthy btw) and smaller meals....

Come to find out there is simple solution(internet) - Serrapeptase. It eats up dead tissue in your body, and has been used for a long time inEurope and Japan(originating from the silk work h). But its over the counter, so the doctors just feed you the company line ...

originally posted by: Serdgiam

I wonder how many of the instances of lung damage were caused by the ventilators and intubations?

The problem is once you go on the ventilator you have a 50% to 90% chance of dying. The key is to prevent it from getting to the point you need a ventilator, as at that point you are toast. What if in the end you are still sick as a dog but you just do not cross that threshold of the ventilator. I would say that is a BIG DEAL if a cocktail of drugs would help.

a reply to: Xtrozero

RdRPs (RNA dependent RNA polymerases) inhibitors seem exceedingly promising, across the board.

Id also say the "success" rate of ventilators might indicate it is not an effective course of treatment, at least as we are employing them. Some case reports indicate that o2, rather than pressure, is key.