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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
originally posted by: Gojira54
The first cases in China emerged in December.
You didn't have the Wuhan Flu.
You are free to believe you had it. But your beliefs and the facts do not match up.
That's not true. The virus was first isolated and defined in December 2019. How many people do you think had and passed it around until enough people got critically sick to attract the attention of research doctors? 3 months? 6 months?
originally posted by: logicsoda
So how do you know it was Covid-19 and not another bug, unless you were tested positive for Covid-19? Other illnesses have the exact same symptoms as Covid-19...
originally posted by: Gojira54
The first cases in China emerged in December.
You didn't have the Wuhan Flu.
You are free to believe you had it. But your beliefs and the facts do not match up.
originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
This virus has been here since october or sooner, Mid November I was sick for a week and a half my symptoms mimiced the Covid-19 symptoms almost to the letter. Honestly I had forgotten about being sick in November, My girlfriend reminded me a few days ago she looked at me and said " babe we have already had this virus in november" I thought for a second , then looked at her and exclaimed " your a genius ! " She was absolutly right , I have been talking to a Doctor that goes to my gym . He said with out a doubt this Covid-19 has been here since atleast October, tons of patients coming to the ER getting mis-diagnosed because they had no clue that Covid-19 was already in circulation. All of these patients he said were being tested for Both types of Flu and Pneumonia testing negative to both, they would write them some anti-biotics to treat the infection caused by the Virus and send them on there way.
Me personally I was tested for both Flu and Pneumonia while I was sick, and tested negative for both. Now I never ever get sick, My girlfriend got sick and almost like clock work I became sick with in a few days. My family practice Doctor told me with out a doubt I had some sort of Viral infection he just had no idea what it was.
Guys and Gals this whole thing is just SPIN, they are using this to progress some sort of agenda just like on 9/11.
Over 60million people in this country were infected during the H1N1 virus pandemic, and they never closed a damn thing .
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: asabuvsobelow
How many people do you think you infected , well assuming you did indeed have this virus.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: asabuvsobelow
It's POSSIBLE you were infected. However, what your post actually points to is that because people were misdiagnosed at the beginning the death toll in the U.S. could be much higher, as well as the number of infected people. How many people have died in the U.S. at the start and their death was attributed to something else due to a misdiagnose? Also the claim that "young people are completely fine" has been proven to be false.
While it is true that the elderly have a higher risk many young people have died as well. People forget that asthma, other respiratory problems including apnea, heart disease, lung disease, etc, etc has no age. Millions of young people, including children, have these conditions and others including a weakened immune system due to some other chronic conditions. Millions of young people are obese, which also increases the risk not only of catching the virus but also increases the risk of dying from SARS-CoV2/COVID-19.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Gojira54
Like I said, plenty of people had to have had it before enough critically sick people brought it to the attention of research doctors to define it in November.
Wuhan is an industrial business hub. Plenty of people, from all over the world travel to and from Wuhan. Travel wasn't restricted until January 31st.
Here, in Southern California where I live, there are so many Chinese visitors that there are bill boards all up and down Interstate 10 that are written in Chinese. We happen be one of the areas with community passed Covid19 clusters early on.
originally posted by: EnigmaChaser
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: asabuvsobelow
It's POSSIBLE you were infected. However, what your post actually points to is that because people were misdiagnosed at the beginning the death toll in the U.S. could be much higher, as well as the number of infected people. How many people have died in the U.S. at the start and their death was attributed to something else due to a misdiagnose? Also the claim that "young people are completely fine" has been proven to be false.
While it is true that the elderly have a higher risk many young people have died as well. People forget that asthma, other respiratory problems including apnea, heart disease, lung disease, etc, etc has no age. Millions of young people, including children, have these conditions and others including a weakened immune system due to some other chronic conditions. Millions of young people are obese, which also increases the risk not only of catching the virus but also increases the risk of dying from SARS-CoV2/COVID-19.
That’s some lying with statistics right there, sir.
It doesn’t point to what you mentioned - it points to his point. Which, as I read it, is there have been a lot more cases than have been acknowledged and the Virus has been here longer than just 2020.
If that’s true, then your point is likely also true. That could be verified by looking at death rates for a number of causes for 2019 vs. historical data.
Without doing that - I would say you have a point. But, the question becomes what’s the ratio of cases to deaths that were undiagnosed. There’s no way of knowing...
Said another way, his argument supports your argument - you’re just viewing it from opposite sides.