-@TH3WH17ERABB17- -Q- Questions. White House Insider's postings -PART- -XXV-

originally posted by: PioneerFigureSkating
a reply to: pteridine

"He who would give up his liberty for his safety deserves neither."

It isn't just some phrase people pass around to feel good. It has real, actual meaning. I'm done with this conversation. It's shocking to me that people don't understand this. These Governors are behaving outside their authority. I'm not interested in debating, or really even conversing, with people who don't understand this.

Have a good day.

It is just a phrase misused often by those who cannot defend their positions. It is supposed to silence discussion as an appeal to authority. Read this:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievanances.

What law has been made?

The Constitution gives the President the power to suspend all but Habeas Corpus. That requires an act of Congress to suspend.
legaldictionary.net... During states of emergency, such as natural disasters or periods of civil unrest, the government can use implied powers to formally declare a State of Emergency. Such a declaration allows suspension or change in functions of any branch of government, and gives the government the power to suspend certain rights or freedoms normally guaranteed by the Constitution.

Have a good day.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Yep, no doubt. I think that's where the 'activation' has become a complex convoluted mess. Making a corruption an easy venue for those looking to take advantage of the crisis. Every state governor has declared 'State of Emergency' on top of Trump's Nation wide Emergency, Stafford Act, and we're all still under 9/11 Emergency Powers Act, and every other emergency act they could pull out of the deep state vault. Power grabs & money bags. Some will be rolled back but I guarantee not all. We have near 20 years of proof. I'm not blaming Trump for this whole mess, this goes way beyond than just one man who cannot possibly know everything. I'd hate to be the one to have make such decisions and must rely on his close intel officers. Easy to blame much, much harder to remove emotions to make right decisions in this fluid dynamic situation and no matter what he does, NOT everyone will be happy about it... no way in heaven you're gonna please ~330 million people.

a reply to: pteridine

What law has been made? 

The law stating people can't go to church, obviously. It's the entire premise of this argument.

originally posted by: PioneerFigureSkating
a reply to: Creep Thumper

Think about the whole, not just the 1A.

The "1A" is literally our first Constitutionally granted right. The 2A was passed to enforce the first.

Yes, it's a serious matter. Deadly serious actually.

PFS, I'm going to gently hammer on you.

Constitution does NOT grant us a thing. We have that right inherent, if that leads to complications so be it. It "grants" the right to businesses and the systems in place to govern the business of business. Never let that go, the government cannot grant rights inherent within every living thing. Only god (insert definition you like) can do this - not a government or document.

Subservience to the "government" as a granter of rights is the problem.

In 1871 the government went Corporate altogether and shifted language etc. The creation of the FED put everyone into debt based bondage, where we were until recently - but for all intent and purposes still are in mind.

So freedoms have been "granted" in the form of removal because slaves have no rights. Slaves have no right to assemble unless they are given perimeters. Anything afforded to, or removed from a slave's life is done for one reason and one reason only: To protect the investment.

Of course all due respect my friend.

a reply to: Quantum_Squirrel

It’s a gang sign.

a reply to: imthegoat

Where the jargon gets confusing is that law enforcement has the right to break that peaceful assembly if it poses a clear and present danger.

If the state has EVIDENCE that the assembly is a "clear and present danger" then great. Who at that church is clearly presenting a danger? The confirmed infection rate is a tiny fraction of the population. How is it more likely than not that a specific individual in that assembly is CLEARLY infected and dangerous? It isn't. So the right to assemble exists.
Similarly, individuals have not only the right to believe what they want. They have the right to free-EXERCISE of their religion of choice. Even if it means foolishly congregating amid a pandemic.

originally posted by: FlyingFox
a reply to: steaming

I did some soldering on an ALTAIR in prep school

Ya remember seeing one at RCC (Radio College of Canada) in Toronto 1974-75
us technician student only got to look at it
the technologies student got hand on
Ya fun day's

Not sure if this is real or just more clown disinfo.

@Tore_says

My NDA ends. So, do you know WHY Brennan became CIA Director? Moved TAC to fix up a personal issue McCain, HRC and Obama passports hacked? Told you I have his real one from Morocco.130 (3 are dead) "celebrity passport" data too y not? #EpsteinsIsland
JOB was blackmailing for??
twitter.com...

TAC = The Analysis Corporation - Founder John Brennan.
JOB = John Owen Brennan

twit Unroll

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

Hard to tell. I can easily imagine certain agency personnel saying, "Oh, they like to dig, do they? Well, let's give them some juicy digs that have no connection with reality"

Morocco. Wonder about that assertion.

Cheers

CV stats for the day (4/12/20)

* 81% of total deaths in 10 states
* 39 of 50 states have less than 45 dead per 1m pop
* 67% of new deaths in 3 states (NY/NJ/MI)
* 89% of new deaths in 10 states
(NY/NJ/MI/MA/CT/PA/CA/IL/LA/MD)

This is being hijacked as a FF in keeping the “eyes and ears” off the FISA - Russia - SpyGate scandal.

originally posted by: Aallanon
a reply to: Quantum_Squirrel

It’s a gang sign.

.. Those damn Patriots all around the World........

It's strange to me that people think they have to meet in a building to talk to G(g)od.

That is an intermediary telling you how you may talk to/worship a higher entity.

That isn't freedom. It's institutional/organized religious tyranny.

You can talk to your entity of choice anywhere, any time.

That's what omnipotence means. 🙄

"Virginia pastor who held packed church service dies of coronavirus"

"I firmly believe that God is larger than this dreaded virus. You can quote me on that,” he said.

nypost.com...

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Heh, tossing some bait out can't be under estimated. Morocco (Casablanca) has always been a country of intrigue and spoofy shenanigans that you rarely hear about.

Hillary Clinton In Morocco: Islam Is A “Great Religion”

a reply to: crankyoldman

cranky, re waiting for DJT to hit 7,77m twitter followers;

1) The world population is going to hit 7, 777, 777,777 within 24 hours - it's currently at 7, 777, 560,000! Is DJT followers count important in combination with world population? I.e. one in a thousand follow DJT?

2) I wonder if the Q posts/POTUS tweets total of 7/49 the other day links to this count?

3) Is there some marker that eugenecists fail if they don't cull population before 7,777,777,777?

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
"Virginia pastor who held packed church service dies of coronavirus"

"I firmly believe that God is larger than this dreaded virus. You can quote me on that,” he said.

nypost.com...

Wheres all the "It was God's will" martyr crap? Maybe it was "God's will" because he was an idiot?

But hey, peaceably assemble by all means people. Its safe! This type of # is why I'm done with these threads, and ATS in general for the most part. "Deny Ignorance" has become "Perpetrate ignorance because you think you're smarter than everyone else."

Perma-lurk from now on. Truly hope everyone takes care and stays safe whether you think it'll affect you or not. I just want people to remember that its not all about them. Over half of people infected are asymptomatic. Meaning you could be carrying it and not have a clue, and pass it along to someone, anyone, that could:

A) Have a compromised immune system, or other underlying health conditions and could severely impact their health. EVEN WITH PROPER PROCEDURE. Masks aren't 100% protective as it can enter through your eyes.

B) Pass it onto someone who also unknowingly passes it onto someone else, and repeat the rest from A.

Quit being selfish pricks. Quit being careless a-holes. The country is supposed to stand behind each other in times of crisis like this. If you're valuing your unnecessary church time over peoples lives then you are part of the problem, not some pseudo-solution to your conspiratorial issues.

Bye. 👋

originally posted by: PioneerFigureSkating
a reply to: pteridine

What law has been made? 

The law stating people can't go to church, obviously. It's the entire premise of this argument.

Can you show the law? USCode?

a reply to: Mike Stivic
PM

I recall a long while back the hypothesis that additives to our food and even fluoridated water being designed to decrease the level of testosterone in the human populace.

The level of hysteria I am witnessing makes me believe it's possible that it just might be true.

originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: PioneerFigureSkating
a reply to: pteridine

What law has been made? 

The law stating people can't go to church, obviously. It's the entire premise of this argument.

Can you show the law? USCode?

I can't because governors are ruling by decree under force of law, like dictators and monarchs right now. They aren't laws. They are orders.

Look up the Hawaii order, for example. It is literally a "Proclamation". You are being ruled by Proclamation, not state law. "This order shall have the force and effect of law".