How long will Americans allow themselves to be quarantined?

I will stay in as long as required. I don’t like people and all my stuff is here.

a reply to: [post=25029681]Irishhaf[/posI
I will agree they pulled the patriot act out way to quickly which tells me that may be it was a pre response to the new American century paper that Bush people wrote. If they do mandatory isolation that would only make since, now if they start putting people in the phantom FEMA camps against our wills then we will have something to worry about. Or if they confine us in our homes and we don't comply and the begin to shoot us then we really have something to get our shorts in a twist.

a reply to: Edumakated

Unfortunately, yes. People need to be sick and die.

No, people do not need to die. Wtf?

Government can't just be like "Oh my bad, we over reacted..." after screwing up people's lives.

So, if/when people die, they can be like "Oh my bad, we didn't act accordingly when we could have saved lives?"

Please.

In my neck of the woods people here will be getting shifty real quick.

I am in a small, rural county in Middle Tennessee.
My town is located about 40 minutes from Any Interstate.

That being said......
Most families live, paycheck to paycheck,
Week to Week.

My friends and I were discussing this today.....
We are Aware that it may get rough around here, pretty damn fast..

When people begin running low on food, Money
and cant pay their Electric Bill.....

There are so many layers to this....

I hope like hell I'm wrong and yet,
We are locked and loaded
And Running Low On Paper Goods lol

a reply to: FreeFalling

Do you have a local store?

I also live in a small town but the local grocer has been on point stocking and restocking.

Yesterday, zero chicken. Today, plenty.

Kroger was bare.

Local is best.

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: Edumakated

Unfortunately, yes. People need to be sick and die.

No, people do not need to die. Wtf?

Government can't just be like "Oh my bad, we over reacted..." after screwing up people's lives.

So, if/when people die, they can be like "Oh my bad, we didn't act accordingly when we could have saved lives?"

Please.

I gotta agree with him. The current death rate really isn't high enough to warrant this. A couple of folks per hundred with very poor health to begin with does not a panic wave make for me.

Don't try the "What if it was someone you know" line of crap. BTDT because nobody can take a "I'll deal with it fine" hint. Even my elderly dad caring for my medically screwed brother (Down Syndrome) does not support any of these lockdowns & restrictions. At all.

At this point, if you get sick from anything, stay home until you are well. Monitor yourself and if you are not getting better then seek professional help. Don’t run to the emergency room when you get your 1st cough. You know if you are healthy not. Don’t use fear to try and justify unneeded action.

Make sure you are communicating by phone or email with family, friends and neighbors in case you can’t take care of yourself. It is always good to have a network of support and also be a part of that support.

Only buy what you need from the market during these times. Think of others and not just about yourself.

Good lessons to learn from this already: your paycheck and lifestyle are not guaranteed. Don’t take them for granted. Stop buying beyond your means. Get healthier and try to stay healthy. Save money for times just like this so the loss of a couple to three paychecks doesn’t ruin you and your family. Remain calm and quit acting like the hoarding, over indulgent, arrogant bastards the rest of the world thinks we are (Americans that is)

a reply to: Nyiah

We have some serious disinformation, going on here and I am to tired today, to go over the definition of Pandemic again. IRL where I live, most people are not begging for any martial law, and most of our mature, adults are concerned of the pandemic. Also, where I live 20% of the population density is over the age of 60. Not only do we have to worry about a pandemic we have to worry about 20% of our population being effected most by the negative characteristics of the disease in their age group.

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: Edumakated

Unfortunately, yes. People need to be sick and die.

No, people do not need to die. Wtf?

Government can't just be like "Oh my bad, we over reacted..." after screwing up people's lives.

So, if/when people die, they can be like "Oh my bad, we didn't act accordingly when we could have saved lives?"

Please.

I see reading comprehension isn't your strength... nor is logic.

I don't want to see anyone die. However, the reality is that people die every single day. We don't shut the country down for the flu because 50,000 people die every year. We don't stop driving cars because 35,000 die in car accidents.

Crashing our economy and throwing us into a depression is lunacy. The numbers are not adding up and aren't justifying this level of reaction.

What we have here is a mass hysteria brought on by 24 hour news coverage, social media, politics, and fear mongering. Lemmings literally running off a cliff.

I am not saying Covid is not bad or dangerous. The reaction to it is.

We are going to look back on this and be like WTF were people thinking?

It actually depends on how long utilities, banks, mortgage companies and the like will go without being paid. If they pressure individuals to pay up or lose their whatever, it's going to get ugly, fast. Why? Because it wasn't our choice to do this. We didn't ask to be confined, our government is insisting. Now out of common sense most of us are doing that because we know preventing it from spreading as much as we can is the right thing to do, but when the bill collectors start hounding, people are going to feel the pressure and that's when the survivalist instinct is going to kick in. God help us.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: Edumakated

Unfortunately, yes. People need to be sick and die.

No, people do not need to die. Wtf?

Government can't just be like "Oh my bad, we over reacted..." after screwing up people's lives.

So, if/when people die, they can be like "Oh my bad, we didn't act accordingly when we could have saved lives?"

Please.

I see reading comprehension isn't your strength... nor is logic.

I don't want to see anyone die. However, the reality is that people die every single day. We don't shut the country down for the flu because 50,000 people die every year. We don't stop driving cars because 35,000 die in car accidents.

Crashing our economy and throwing us into a depression is lunacy. The numbers are not adding up and aren't justifying this level of reaction.

What we have here is a mass hysteria brought on by 24 hour news coverage, social media, politics, and fear mongering. Lemmings literally running off a cliff.

I am not saying Covid is not bad or dangerous. The reaction to it is.

We are going to look back on this and be like WTF were people thinking?

Excellent post and spot-on.

a reply to: Edumakated

I see reading comprehension isn't your strength...

I see being an arrogant dick is yours.

We don't stop driving cars because 35,000 die in car acciden

Cars accidents aren't new infectious diseases with a high rate of contagion for which we have no vaccine. Neither is gun violence.

Back to the point. When no "evidence" of mass sickness or death occurs it's a nothing burger, even when precautions perhaps prevented it from happening. So mass sickness and death have to occur for it be taken seriously, and become a something burger.

That's your implication.

2-3 weeks tops. Once the weather is nice people are going to say enough is enoug and start doing things again. Businesses will start opening back up reguardless of what some politician says.

This whole lockdown/quarantine/curfew nonsense is logistically impossible in America.

I dont want to hear about numbers either. They can make numbers say whatever they want. Let me get this straight... we are supposed to believe the MSM and goverment mutts after what has went down in this country though recent years. Americans are expected to imprison themselves in their homes? Not going to happen. Trump has a couple weeks to play along with this nonsense and then people are going to ignore the fear mongering.

This is all just BS entertainment now. They dont even talk about the virus anymore. The MSM just talks about containment and what the governmnet should do. This is a rollout for corperate fascism and democratic communism. Biggest screw up they made was taking down sports and entertainmment. TPTB just put a huge spotlight on their BS.

Silver lining is everyone is going to hate big government after this.

a reply to: Edumakated

I seriously hope you are right because then it will mean what's going on now actually worked.

If you end up wrong, it means it didn't work and we end up like Italy with more critically ill people than hospital beds.

originally posted by: ketsuko
Too many people are going to be too conscious that they are not able to support just being home doing nothing for long. Those are the ones who will run out of patience first.

Those of us who are able to work from home and feel reasonably secure at it, will be convinced to stay there longer, but even then, you can only keep people cooped up for so long before they will go stir crazy.

If we get through a cycle or three of this and things don't seem to be ramping up in an area, then I expect people will really start to push back on the necessity of continuing. If people are dying in the streets? ... well, you may get folks to stay put a bit longer.

I'm already running out of patience. I might just go ahead and take the 80 hours of paid sick leave that my job has so graciously provided, and spend the next two weeks locked in the comforts of my own home. Turn everything off, and that way I can finally go five minutes without hearing about Coronavirus this, Trump that, the economy whatever.

originally posted by: FreeFalling
In my neck of the woods people here will be getting shifty real quick.

I am in a small, rural county in Middle Tennessee.
My town is located about 40 minutes from Any Interstate.

That being said......
Most families live, paycheck to paycheck,
Week to Week.

My friends and I were discussing this today.....
We are Aware that it may get rough around here, pretty damn fast..

When people begin running low on food, Money
and cant pay their Electric Bill.....

There are so many layers to this....

I hope like hell I'm wrong and yet,
We are locked and loaded
And Running Low On Paper Goods lol

I am in the same area and can confirm. People are already getting aggravated about what's going on. There is no quarantine or curfew so to speak, but schools have been cancelled, and people are being forced to stay home with their kids.

I still work my full 40 hours a week, but starting this Thursday we will be closing our doors to customers at 6pm every day so that we can clean and disinfect everything every night.

There is a lot of potential for trouble brewing. We still have masks, toilet paper, and produce. But every now and then some a-hole will come in and try to buy everything.

One other thing I have noticed is that there has been a run on ammo, Everything from .22 on up was cleared off the shelves in multiple gun stores. Online sells were bogged as well.

So, there's that.

I just can't get it out of my mind that this is like a biological 9/11 on a global scale. Not in regards to an act of terrorism, though the case could be made for it, but in regards to how the government took advantage of the situation and effectively put an ear and eye into everyone's home.

Now not only do we have Mayors/Governors taking extreme measures to ban sales of everyday items, including things from clothing to ammunition, but we have some bill that is being ran that will make encryption useless. It's another step towards having the government impose their will and control over us.

I'm not worried about the virus. I'm not worried about the economy. What I am worried about is losing my freedoms and being able to maintain my privacy.

The current death rate really isn't high enough to warrant this. A couple of folks per hundred with very poor health to begin with does not a panic wave make for me.

a reply to: Nyiah

I hear what you are saying and that is something that I thought at first also. Weeks ago on wuflu.live I remember seeing the death rate at like 2.7%. Of course mostly Chinese numbers. As this thing hits Italy and others, now the death rate is listed at 4.1%. I suspect the numbers from China were not accurate enough to get a true death rate number. How high does the death rate need to make the percentage rise?

Here is another thought. Would China do what it did by shutting a giant economy down and bulldoze giant piles of dirt in the streets for “a couple [deaths] per hundred”? Maybe it would. . .but now it looks like Italy has done something similar to China and now the US has started taking precautions.

To stay on topic, it depends on where you are at. In the cities, a few weeks. In rural areas, months.

a reply to: MrParanoid

In Hong Kong if you violate the "stay in place order", the police put a tracking ankle bracelet on you.

If you are caught violating it again with the ankle bracelet on.......

Wuf Blister really liked that idea for America.

a reply to: carewemust

that wont happen here. The entire reason Trump was elected was because Americans were sick of government going to far and bringing in more totalitarianism. These people think they are going to drop the hammer and throw us into a deppression and everyone will love big government.

I give it a week. People are already getting over the fear and are becomming pissed off. a bunch of politicians/globalists/illuminati just decide they are going to force the entire world to shut down. My 7 and 10 year old sons hate government right now because they dont think they will get to see the easter bunny this year. No new Jurrasic park either.... they are PISSED.

It took years for the great depression to fully set in. This whole government forcing everyone to go on wellfare so they can play politics is not going fly and they know it. Thats why all these elites are running to their bunkers.

a reply to: Liquesence

Yes, we do have local. Plus a few big box stores.......
Dollar Store, WMart, Sav A Lot, Piggy Wiggy.......

Shelves are pretty bare on the same items at most of those place
Paper goods, breads, water, ......