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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Dumbass
It's fresh in more transparent countries... So we won't know the mortality rate for a few more weeks.
To say it's 99% full recovery rate is just not based on any facts.
Has anyone self isolated yet?
originally posted by: LookingAtMars
a reply to: one4all
weaponised viral bug that uses an already insitu Plemorphic Bacteria as its host
First time I have heard that.
I did a quick search and didn't find that info, do you have a link?
That would be a bad thing. If it is true, it would seem that the virus is weaponized.
Although human blood is believed to be a sterile environment, recent studies suggest that pleomorphic bacteria exist in the blood of healthy humans.
Pleomorphic bacteria-like structures in human blood
Testing is underway on a possible additional case in Gwinnett County, WSB-TV reported.
originally posted by: one4all
originally posted by: LookingAtMars
a reply to: one4all
weaponised viral bug that uses an already insitu Plemorphic Bacteria as its host
First time I have heard that.
I did a quick search and didn't find that info, do you have a link?
That would be a bad thing. If it is true, it would seem that the virus is weaponized.
Although human blood is believed to be a sterile environment, recent studies suggest that pleomorphic bacteria exist in the blood of healthy humans.
Pleomorphic bacteria-like structures in human blood
Everything I have ever learned is available to be perused within the public domain...a lot OF PEOPLE already understand the bigger picture … far beyond the 10% Rubicon you are concerned about IMHO.
Do you have any idea how many links you would have to visit to put yourself in a position to understand and comprehend my personal Methodology?
I am an Intuitive Empath who also happens to be an Auto-Didact..Generally people find it extremely challenging to keep up with me.
Pleomorphic Bacteria disguised via mass and shape adaptations as Viruses do NOT EXIST IN THE BLOOD OF HEALTHY HUMANS....they do in fact exist in the blood of the incredibly vast MAJORITY OF HUMANS who are in base fact "infected" and do not know it by a dormant monster that enters their body via the parasitic conduit catalysed from within the foodchain.
Because these little Chameleon demons are found in the OVERWHELMONG MAJOPRITY of people who present as "normal" the researchers parse this group as the HEALTHY GROUP.....lol...lol...they cannot handle the truth that this OVERWHELMING MAJORITY is in fact INFECTED.
This Pleomorphic Bacteria was weaponised in its pure natural state Centuries ago....our Global Population is being Farmed using it as we speak....the only way you can make more money than to have a man working for you is for him to be working for you AND TO BE CHRONICLLY SICK AND CONSTANTLY GIVING YOU HIS MONEY(you pay him for working) FOR TREATMENTS.....its called Double-Ending....diabolical isnt it?
originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: Dumbass
Yeah, about that.
www.worldometers.info...
62,197 = Cases which had an outcome:
Recovered 58,627 (94%) Dead 3,570 (6%)
originally posted by: Psilocyborg
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: LookingAtMars
COVID-19 is just another bug, like the Flu. The odds are better than 99%, that those affected will fully recover.
www.cidrap.umn.edu...
16 deaths from 250 cases means 6.4% did not get better.
Washington state also has the most deaths, 14, according to a daily tally maintained by the Seattle Times. MMost of the fatal cases involved residents of a Seattle-area nursing home, the Life Care Center.
As the Director General of the World Health Organization (WHO), Tedros Adhanom, explained in his February 28 briefing, “Most people will have mild disease and get better without needing any special care.” Several studies have found that about 80% of all the COVID-19 cases have relatively minor symptoms which end without severe illness and therefore remain unreported.
A Chinese study in the Journal of the American Medical Association, February 20, found a “case‐fatality rate” of 2.3%, meaning 1,023 died out of 44,672 cases. But the total sample in that study (72,314) included an additional 27,642 non‐confirmed cases, and simply including cases (let alone unreported minor cases) would have reduced the fatality rate to 1.4%. China‐based estimates are largely confined to cases with the most severe symptoms, so it should be no surprise that the reported death rate among severe cases is much higher than it would be if the data also included “most people” who “have a mild disease and get better.” The risk of infecting more people is also more severe in China data, since severe cases are concentrated and transmitted in hospitals. This can also lead to overstated estimates of how many people are infected by someone with COVID-19, including the WHO “reproduction number” estimate of 1.4–2.5, which is mainly based on evidence from China.
What about the relatively small number of COVID-19 cases outside China? In his February 28, the Director General of WHO reported that “Outside China, there are now 4351 cases in 49 countries, and 67 deaths.” Deaths of 67 divided by 4351 seems to demonstrate a death rate of 1.5%. But such calculations are highly misleading. They assume the denominator of that ratio (4351) is as accurate as the numerator (67). Yet people with “mild cases who get better” are unlikely to ever be included in the denominator.
If the WHO estimate of 4351 confirmed cases amounted to 30% of the actual number infected outside of China at that time, for example, then the combined total of both unreported and confirmed cases would be 4351 divided by 0.30 or 14,503. In that case, the actual death rate would 67 divided by 14,503, or less than one half of one percent (0.46%). Also, such death rates in the recent past are likely to come down over time, because they happened before promising new clinical trials of antiviral drugs that proved effective against more deadly viruses such as SARS, HIV and Ebola.
For perspective, the SARS coronavirus killed 774 people out of 8096 known cases in 2003, which was a death rate of 9.6% before it vanished the next year. Bird flu in 1997 was predicted to be a deadly pandemic, but it killed very few people before it disappeared. In its February 22 U.S. Influenza Surveillance Report, “CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 32 million flu illnesses… and 18,000 deaths from flu.” Dividing 18,000 by 32 million implies a low U.S. death rate of .0138% from the flu. Looking at the death rate alone is obviously not enough: We also have to look at the numbers of people infected, and the duration of the epidemic, which is why the flu killed so many more people than SARS. Still, it is important to avoid scaring people about the risk of death from COVID-19 by continuing to ignore the fact that the vast majority of cases “have mild disease and get better without needing any special care.”
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Dumbass
Confirmed cases divided by confirmed deaths = more than 1% death rate.
That's the only facts there are.
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: LookingAtMars
COVID-19 is just another bug, like the Flu. The odds are better than 99%, that those affected will fully recover.
originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: CriticalStinker
actually the rate is based on outcome, not an exponentially growing "infected" number.
originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: Dumbass
I really do not understand the "It's just the flu bro" squad. Are you guys getting paid to spew that trash?
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: LookingAtMars
COVID-19 is just another bug, like the Flu. The odds are better than 99%, that those affected will fully recover.
13.8% have severe disease (dyspnea, respiratory frequency ≥30/minute, blood oxygen saturation ≤93%, PaO2/FiO2 ratio 50% of the lung field within 24-48 hours) and 6.1% are critical (respiratory failure, septic shock, and/or multiple organ dysfunction/failure).
About a quarter of severe and critical cases require mechanical ventilation while the remaining 75% require only oxygen supplementation.
Mortality increases with age, with the highest mortality among people over 80 years of age (CFR 21.9%). The CFR is higher among males compared to females (4.7% vs. 2.8%). By occupation, patients who reported being retirees had the highest CFR at 8.9%. While patients who reported no comorbid conditions had a CFR of 1.4%, patients with comorbid conditions had much higher rates: 13.2% for those with cardiovascular disease, 9.2% for diabetes, 8.4% for hypertension, 8.0% for chronic respiratory disease, and 7.6% for cancer.