Original Religion

Was there a original religion that all of the other religions are either based or some part of their belif involved this original religion.
Sorry that this dosent sound clear

Till Next Time,
BlackRose

While nice, this is far too broad a topic for anyone to make inroads into. It is better to go and do a google search on, for private research.

My two cents worth:

Heathen/Pagan people had a reasonable thing going.

Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islamism) have more in common than people give credit to, but don't come up in the 'coherency' stakes as much as eastern religions do.

Christianity stole most of its religious festivals from the Pagan calendar to convert people as painlessly as possible.

Truth is what matters, religion is just a word.
I believe there are two forces, struggling for domination on people. One of them is true, another will do anything to place lies above truth.

Originally posted by Megaquad
Truth is what matters, religion is just a word.
I believe there are two forces, struggling for domination on people. One of them is true, another will do anything to place lies above truth.

Megaquad

That is interesting, and it could also be phrased thusly, by religious people:

God is what matters, truth is just a word.
I believe there are two forces, struggling for domination on people. One of them is God, another will do anything to place lies above God.

The original religion is a stiff one but I would surmise that the original religion was animalism, leading to the worship of Nature, the Sun and the Moon, followed by the further awareness of self and his environement, as a whole, that lead to believing in a Higher Being or gods.

regards
seekerof

Originally posted by MaskedAvatar
Megaquad

That is interesting, and it could also be phrased thusly, by religious people:

God is what matters, truth is just a word.
I believe there are two forces, struggling for domination on people. One of them is God, another will do anything to place lies above God.

Well that is what I meant, for me God is truth, but word 'religion' itself has been labeled with so much hate and negative things, it became a nonsense to distinct religions and its values for some people.

Megaquad

Yes, and by the same token, a good (evil?) Church will blur the distinction between God and religion, so they are one and the same, and put forward someone as "the voice of God" and spew forth "Truth".

I agree with Seekerof


The first religions anthropologically speaking is animalism.

Reading between the lines of BlackRose's question, I don't think animalism is the name of the religion she is looking for, even if it was the first 'religion'.

The question is vague, but she has something to move forward with.

I dont' think that animalism was necissarily the first religion.

The first religion would have been astronomical.

The sun rises and blocks out the night and brings light, then sets and the moon rises.

To anyone that would be more impressionable than animals.

Animalism arose out of the gained knowledge that their societies were dependant on them. Just as nature.

There were original "truths". God made himself manifest to ALL men in the beginning, but as the times passed the truth was twisted with legends and myths, the various religions developed.

[Edited on 11-7-2003 by Valhall]

*shrugs* hehe, I was just making a logical guess....
I agree with your premise though MA, it is a little vague and almost begs to be further defined.... *shrug*


regards
seekerof

Islam was the original religion. Islam is more than just a religion, it means submission. Adam submitted to God, so did Enoch and Abraham. They were all Muslim because they submitted to God in Islam.

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Ignore illmatic, blackrose. That's one of the most ignorant phrases i have ever heard. The first recorded religion was the religion of the Sumerians.

I disagree Illmatic67 the first religion was related to survival and whatever was perceived as relatable.

They say animals dream about food .......

Christianity was before Islam, there is no reason to believe that Mohammad was not false prophet inspired by evil spirit.
There are numerous "prophets" even in our time, luckily their nonsense is rejected as false.
Unfortunately that was not the case with Mohammad.
Also there was no miracle from God to prove Islam.

"O you who believe, do not take the Jews and Christians as friends; they are the friends (only) of each other. And whoever among you turns to them (for friendship) is certainly one of them; indeed, Allah does not guide the people who do wrong." -from Koran

Yeah right. Do you need any more evidences that Islam is religion created by devil to oppose christianity?

Matthew 5:43

Love for Enemies

"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

[Edited on 11-7-2003 by Megaquad]

Nicely done, Mega.

Who knows what the first practiced religion was? Being a religion, it would have to be organized and followed by multiple people, but that doesn't mean that any proof or records of it may yet exist. I'd be willing to bet that earliest man (maybe even the Neandethals) had a semi-organized religion based on animal worship (anyone ever read "Clan of the Cave Bear"?) It seems to me that people often worship what they fear or respect, so early man probably worshipped bears, cats, and other predators that occasionally took them in the night.

Gore had it right when he said the Sumerians were probasbly the first organized people who had a central belief system. Or at least, the earliest that we have found any proof of.

Illmatic - dude, you are a never-ending source of entertainment. How I look forward to your posts. You also continue to reinforce my own personal belief that: what was once a belief system based on an individual's ability to be tolerant, servile and open-minded has now degenerated into a cult of death and intolerance. A shame, it's too bad the great Mulsim leaders of the middle ages aren't here to quash this radicalism.

Again with the miracles

Mega, your a weak minded person. You think it's all about miracles and that's that. For your information, Satan has performed more miracles on earth than all the prophets combined. Believe in one of his miracles, I hope.


And you continue to quote the 'bad' quotes in Islam with quoting the 'good'. Muhammad said his message was a miracle in its own. He didnt need to peform miracles because the Arab were a faithful people. The only people who ask for miracles were the Jews and the Christians. But Muhammad gave the unfaithful a sign indeed when he pointed at a full moon and made it disappear. Or when water streamed from his fingertips as the people drank as they were so thirsty.

You probably don't even know why Muhammad said not to take Jews and Christians as friends. The Qur'an was written for its time and at that time the Jews and Christians had betrayed Muhammad, even leading him to death. But the Prophet of God had His guidance and help.

Pyros, ok- your post made no sense whatsoever.

Sorry - I went way overboard.

But you are wrong. Islam was not the first religion.

Islam once had the potential to be a great force in the world, but it has too many grave flaws in its theology and it will never be flexible enough to allow itself to change. Like the smoker who refuses to quit or admit he is addicted, it will slowly give itself cancer and wither away.

Read the following and you will understand why.

www.alphalink.com.au...