CNN Says President Trump Will Defeat Democratic Presidential Candidate Bernie Sanders.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

That's what I've been trying to tell you. You don't have to change my views. It's all good. I think you guys are adorable.

The US left needs to change its views on how they run their party. Righteous indignation, feet-stomping, paper-ripping, pussy-hat(ing), and screaming at the sky aren't enough. You need to win the ground game. It's not magic.

The Democrats never even showed up to play and the sole leftie who did is persona no grata to the liberal DNC media and their multimillionaire (fake) "journalists" and they will implode their own party to deny reality as if their paychecks depend on it.

Four more years of Trump is good for the ad-click business and the recreational outrage algorithm. The left wants to lose. That's' what I'm saying.

originally posted by: MissCoyote
because AMERICA will never be fully socialist...yes we have some social programs......but tax peoples income 50 percent and well you have the recipe for a disaster......god i wish our founding fathers were here today......

Except Bernie and others know that's not going to happen if he gets elected. Bernie is not even proposing that.

Bernie is one of the few people who even talks about the ultra wealthy who create loopholes to hide their money from taxes.

Im not sure if Bernie could work for POTUS but at least he is one of the very few politicians who isn't a sell-out.

I'm paying close to 50% tax right now. Income tax, sales tax, property tax, HOA fees, toll fees, car inspection fees, DL fees, water tax (35%), tax on investment gains, tax on savings account interest gains.

This does not include health insurance, dental insurance, car insurance, home insurance, flood insurance. Last time I figured it out it was 37% just in taxes alone. Add all the insurances and additional fees and it's over 40%. The above scenario is the case for much of the middle and upper middle class.

Everybody knows trump would beat Bernie.
That is why Russia is helping him to get the nomination.
So trump stays president while the statute of limitations runs out in N.Y. state.

a reply to: carewemust

There are democrats and there are the right democrats and Bernie is not one of the right democrats.

Hardly any Republican is equal to trump in your eyes and their value fluctuates based on how they view the orange god. Why would you think all democrats are equal?

originally posted by: MissCoyote
because AMERICA will never be fully socialist...yes we have some social programs......but tax peoples income 50 percent and well you have the recipe for a disaster......god i wish our founding fathers were here today......

Never is a very strong word - and if the youth continue to be indoctrinated, I would say the likelihood it becomes socialist is actually quite high. I am just hoping it doesn't happen in my lifetime.

a reply to: Trueman

No they will never vote for trump.
They will hold their nose and vote for Bernie.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: orionthehunter

The 18-35 demographic is now the largest potential voting bloc. So even if those are the only people that support Bernie, if he can get them out to vote, he would win.

Newsflash - he can't. But even if he could it would not be enough.

But Bernie is not going to win the nomination so no worries.

hahaha
so would this be the appropriate time to dig up the no path to 270 posts?
asking for a friend....

a reply to: carewemust

Trump will be lucky if he gets 15% of Republican votes.

Those people have TVs and they know what he is now.

His little base won't be enough to keep him in power which is why he is cheating AGAIN.

He loses no matter who the dem nominee is.

Count on it.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
But Bernie is not going to win the nomination so no worries.

If you think that I am now 100% convinced Bernie will win. I was already leaning that way, but with your track record about being wrong about everything political I am convinced he has it won now.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Gonna screenshot this one for posterity.

originally posted by: Hypntick
a reply to: Sillyolme

Gonna screenshot this one for posterity.

wont matter
it wont stop the incessant bs predictions
one could just watch msnbc for ones self and hear the same thing

everybody has that one looney auntie.....

a reply to: proximo

As I said, it is now the largest demographic. Bernie's support among that demographic is so large, at one point he polled higher among them than all other candidates combined.

Hillary lost because she slightly underperformed with certain demographics. You really don't think Bernie would win if he galvanized the largest voting demographic in the country?

Let's take out the fact of Bernie being a socialist, remove it from the picture. What are we left with as a candidate? An old guy who has never held an actual job in any capacity other than politician. Based on his track record as a politician what has he accomplished? Not exactly a lot (anything) when you compare it against the sitting president. He's not a particularly likable person, seems overly hostile, and if I had to look in the dictionary for picture of "grumpy old man" I wouldn't be shocked to see his picture.

So you take that candidate and then add the socialism, he's now unpalatable to a large portion of the population, who without it may have begrudgingly voted for him because he's not Trump. Even if I don't care for the president as a person, you'd never spot me having a beer with him (even if I were on the same socio-economic level), he's still gotten more done in a positive aspect for me than any other president I've been old enough to vote for. I think a lot of people may dislike his personality, wish he would shut up a bit more on Twitter, etc. yet he's still getting stuff done in a positive direction. That's more than you can say about any other candidate up for election.

a reply to: Hypntick

To be fair, before President Trump, we elected at least three presidents for a total of 24 years who never held a job aside from being a parasi... er, politician.

Most politicians, at least at the presidential level, wouldn't know a real job if it hit them across the back with a two-by-four.

Bloomberg has run a damn successful business. He has the personality of a half-smashed tangelo in a puddle of mud, but he does know how to buy an election with money he earned from actually working.

The electoral college is built with established trusted and respected adults, mainly middle and upper middle class. They do not have to honor the popular vote. They can vote however they want. Often they do not but this time it appears the stakes will be much higher for them on a personal level.

These middle and upper middle class electorates would have to want to tax themselves more, give up their private health insurance, pay for the tuition of their neighbor's kids and pay off the student loans of everyone else and likely cut out their family vacations. They basically get nothing out of it but financial burden.

I can't think of one middle or upper middle person who would vote willingly to harm themselves financially for the good of everyone else on that level. There is no path to victory for Bernie Sanders in this system. He will likely get the nomination and then he will get handed one of the worst electoral college defeats in history if not the worst.

THIS JUST IN:
A socialist can not win the presidency in America…
In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet...

-Chris

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

And if your scenario happens you can damn well believe it will be the end of the electoral college. If Bernie manages to win the required number of EC votes but still doesn't get the presidency, do you really think that is indicative of a healthy electoral system?