Old School Punk

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Again Im 10 years behind...



Fricken funny

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BH Surfers were always good!

LOL that Heads video - I've got musician/artist friends that are using this lockdown to create new stuff, really looking forward to seeing what they do. I'm still working so no funtime/downtime for me.

Your post in the "other" music thread put this word in my head - one of my favorite songs back in the day.

One of the earliest punk casualties, Darby Crash

The Sex Pistols had imploded by 1978, Sid O.D.'d by early '79 and Johnny, Steve and Paul went on to other projects.

Johnny Rotten (now Lydon) with Public Image LTD


While Steve Jones and Paul Cook formed The Professionals

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Hey underpasss61! I hope all is well. Ive been listening and learning from your latest posts, you know more way more about this subject then me and Im loving it!

Off topic, I saw a couple of your posts in the main "news" section and it looks like you and I differ occasionally politically - just observation from posts.

I am hoping based on the tenor of our conversations in this thread that anything like politics wouldn't stop you and I from continuing our, in my mind, awesome conversation - and forgive me if that is an obvious statement - I mean that.

Music can transcend.

"Hey man, our differences are our differences. If you are a good person in real life, a good neighbor, family person, community person like I'm sure you are. then screw it - you like the Crow-Mags? I don't care about that other stuff. Come on in!" -ME 2020

I want to put this up because there is pre-punk history and because Wayne Kramer is just an amazing human.



I hope you understand my posting in the punk sense in that mass sees degenerate, we se poets and intellectuals.

ok, maybe not always, lol, but sometimes...cheers mate be well.

suddenly added: I believe this is the only true "punk" left in 1990. Give it a chance. 2 songs. First song is a fake out.

originally posted by: ColoradoJens


Music can transcend.

Absolutely music transcends- ideologies, cultures, time, you name it! No worries from me CJ - I think that like most folks here I tend to be more vocal about my personal beliefs than I would be in a face to face situation. Living in L.A. you can bet that many of my friends and business associates hold very different views than I do but the bottom line is we're all just people trying to slog through. Then there's the fact that we know that none of us really has the answer or the power to change anything anyway. So, I say live and let live yet at the same time like Johnny Ramone in my signature line, I remain hopeful

originally posted by: ColoradoJens


I want to put this up because there is pre-punk history and because Wayne Kramer is just an amazing human.

That was very cool - I'm not too well versed on the MC5. It was great to see Billy Bragg in there (an all-time fave even if he's about as left as you can get!). I didn't know "Jail Guitar Doors" was about Wayne either!

originally posted by: ColoradoJens


suddenly added: I believe this is the only true "punk" left in 1990. Give it a chance. 2 songs. First song is a fake out.

Ween has some really cool stuff - they never conformed and stylistically they're all over the map which I think is awesome. They weren't alone however, there are a couple bands around with that same spirit. My number one fave from that time was Orange County CA's Ziggens. They're definitely from the same camp as Ween - check 'em out:




The 90's were the dawn of the punk "mainstream" with Green Day, Offspring, etc. All fine bands with some great tunes, personally kind of depressing for me since while I believe they were sincere artists, it felt like a case of "standing on the shoulders of giants". The pioneers blazed the trail across the musical landscape and got scalped financially for their efforts.

Be well and take care CJ and thank you for thoughts - like the old cliche goes we're all more alike than we are different!



Bonus 90's clip (actually 1988 LOL)!!
One of my bands in a skate video (me on bass)

One for the weekend. Although not recorded until 1981, this song was being played live since their debut gig in 1977.

RIP Mickey Fitz! Oi! Oi!

Following the release of their debut EP, the band was sued by the American Red Cross and forced to change their name to Redd Kross;

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The same thing happened to these guys (this time sued by the real Salvation Army) so they changed their name to The Three O'clock


Eventually they let their psychedelic influences take over and became prominent players in the Paisely Underground movement