Corona Virus Updates Part 2

a reply to: Adphil28

Just to add.. A London surgery is closed (Islington)

www.mylondon.news...

Of course it's completely normal to close a surgery just because someone rocked up with something no worse than flu...

originally posted by: NxNWest
I think the rest of us who aren’t arguing and insulting each other need to keep that in mind and keep up the relevant, information-sharing discussion.

But you don't do that by leaving extremely relevant information out of your post.

what is it with the need for people to incessantly impose their point of on everyone unnecessarily when thats not the topic of the thread?

a reply to: doggodlol

ok a virus that's in a bat

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
www.dailymail.co.uk...

London on coronavirus alert: Paramedics in hazmat suits march man out of flat in Paddington after telling bystanders 'we have a confirmed case' amid hunt for anyone who came into contact with capital's first patient

If conirmed, this will be the 2nd one in London in space of 2 days.

And I'm curious - how many confirmed cases of the regular flu? Or pneumonia?

I have never seen a full hazmat suit used to pick up someone with a regular virus.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Irrelevant

originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind
You ever notice that when people say they need "proof" before they believe something - they never spell out exactly what they would accept as proof? They do it that way so they can keep asking for more proof.

Ridiculous! You'll have to provide some proof of that, or it is just your opinion.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
www.dailymail.co.uk...

London on coronavirus alert: Paramedics in hazmat suits march man out of flat in Paddington after telling bystanders 'we have a confirmed case' amid hunt for anyone who came into contact with capital's first patient

If conirmed, this will be the 2nd one in London in space of 2 days.

And I'm curious - how many confirmed cases of the regular flu? Or pneumonia?

Which we have forms of Hurd immunity to. Pointless and ridiculous question. THIS in novel. Do you not get that?

originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind
Can you show some examples of INTENTIONAL misinformation?

Intentional, careless, casual - it is still misinformation, and doesn't help things.

originally posted by: Adphil28
a reply to: Advantage

Would tend to agree, will be interesting to see what numbers are published later ( sounds morbid I know sorry to those suffering this ), just to see if it’s similar to yesterday or much less

Well, its gotten to the tipping point where more accurate numbers will have to get out or be put out.. mainly because they cant contain it due to the internet. Suddenly we have all of these adjustments in oversight, counting, diagnostics, movements. Since the start Ive said that I think the real % was more like 15-20% death rate. Mainly because its manner of killing the host... and its behavior of length of living on surfaces and in the dead which is darned long.. and its behavior of having a very long incubation period. Its a perfect storm of icky behaviors.

originally posted by: NxNWest
here is an article on the difference.

www.ynhhs.org...

They may not be the same thing, but from the descriptions from that link, they sound extremely similar:

Influenza:
"The flu is a contagious respiratory illness caused by influenza viruses that infect the nose, throat and sometimes the lungs. Older people, young children and people with certain chronic conditions (asthma, heart disease, diabetes, among others) are at increased risk for serious complications, including pneumonia."

CV:
"Human coronaviruses are common throughout the world. The most recent coronavirus, 2019 Novel Coronavirus, was first identified in Wuhan, China and is associated with mild-to-severe respiratory illness with fever and cough.
...
It appears to cause a more severe illness progressing to pneumonia."

a reply to: toysforadults

I see he's uploaded a video recently about the increase in numbers overnight - about 15 minutes and it looks like he's walking through the airport. At work now, so I'll catch up later when I'm home.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Its in the wording. So as not to freak people out.. you use " is associated with" versus "increased risk for".

a reply to: Advantage

I think the bad weather may help limit the spread ( most of eu and U.K. and Ireland is under storms for the next week) but that may also make people think it’s flu etc and stay out the way, could possibly delay things not sure on that yet have to see what happens there

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
www.dailymail.co.uk...

London on coronavirus alert: Paramedics in hazmat suits march man out of flat in Paddington after telling bystanders 'we have a confirmed case' amid hunt for anyone who came into contact with capital's first patient

If conirmed, this will be the 2nd one in London in space of 2 days.

And I'm curious - how many confirmed cases of the regular flu? Or pneumonia?

Ridiculous comparison. It's not apples and oranges, it more like an orange in an apple orchard. The apple trees are already established everywhere, like flu, the orange is just an orange. Oh I give up

I just googled it so apparently the CDC has sent out the specifications to a number of companies to produce these kits.
The CDC has announced that new reagents will be manufactured and sent out to to state labs that had inconclusive results. So everything should get back on track for individual states to resume testing.

This is something else we should be paying attention to.
The FDA has suspended FDA inspection of manufacturing of medication in China because of the coronavirus.
In the Miami Herald [Feb 12]
"Florida Senator Rick Scott expressed big concerns over the lack of FDA inspectors in China to monitor the quality of medication manufactured there and distributed around the world."
He said" When you hear something like that, that we do not have inspectors there, what risk are you taking?"

I imagine we must have a couple of months supply of most medications. I wonder what happens if manufacturers in China can not resume or resume at a very low level because of lack of staff.

I believe someone in the thread mentioned India since it manufactures a lot of generics.
"India 'TOO Reliant on Chinese' Imports Worries Dehli"

Another under the radar moment.
India actually imports 80% of raw materials for their pharmaceutical industry from China.
Wow!
WWW.bbc.com news India too reliant on Chinese drug imports worries Dehli.

"FDA recalls are a reminder that Chinese control much of the worlds drug supply.
www.nbc.com

originally posted by: Adphil28
a reply to: Advantage

I think the bad weather may help limit the spread ( most of eu and U.K. and Ireland is under storms for the next week) but that may also make people think it’s flu etc and stay out the way, could possibly delay things not sure on that yet have to see what happens there

Agree.. but only delay it. I dont think its YAYY APOCALYPSE.. but I DO believe it will be a significant and long term event and will drop a bomb on the economy and etc.

he makes valid post there,

all depends on checks and data provided