Corona Virus Updates Part 2

originally posted by: solarone
Brighton coronavirus 'super-spreader' claims he has 'fully recovered'

No details on the severity of his symptoms though!??

Super spreader claims he's fully recovered

Well gee, maybe he can start jet-setting again. I'm sure he in the mind to do that along with his lovely partner. We can't be quarantined and not go on business trips afterwards can we. I mean we have the cub scouts to look after don't we. Try staying at home until it's all over happy man.

Bally

a reply to: angelchemuel

Pandemic potential of 2019-nCoV

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: angelchemuel

If you copy and paste the "(20)30068-2/fulltext" part into the web address bar when hitting the link it will take you to the page. Looks like the bracket symbols () are breaking a direct weblink.

Thank you...got it

Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: tgidkp

Coronavirus 'could infect 60% of global population if unchecked'
Exclusive: Public health epidemiologist says other countries should consider adopting China-style containment measures

www.theguardian.com...

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: TritonTaranis

I try to prepare for things, but I will freely admit viruses, disease, bacteria etc scare the bejeesus out of me.

Give me nukes, give me solar storms, give me earth quakes, fires, floods I am good I have an idea of how to proceed that's grounded in facts... pandemic style doom is way outside my depth and scares me and I am not afraid to admit that.

Don't worry, it might still end up as nukes if it turns out to be a bio-weapon. Or economic collapse, weapon or not.

Did a search "Coronavirus conspiracy nwo" on chrome and up popped the Council on Foreign Relations Website. Google must associate the two for some strange reason IDK.

The United States declared the coronavirus outbreak a public health emergency in late January, despite a low number of U.S. cases. The CDC said the risk to most Americans is low since the virus has not spread widely from person to person, but said it is preparing its response “as if this were the next pandemic.”

Personal risk low right now but "as if this were the next pandemic" response.

If the virus spreads, however, the White House warned that “the public health system could be overwhelmed,” given the limited resources of both the CDC and local health departments. The Department of Health and Human Services requested additional funds from Congress in early February to combat the virus.

www.cfr.org...

A link from that snippet lead to this white house document.

Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus

The CDC has confirmed that the virus has spread between two people in the United States, representing the first instance of person-to-person transmission of the virus within the United States

I hadn't heard of person to person transmission in the US yet?

Sustained human-to-human transmission has the potential to have cascading public health, economic, national security, and societal consequences.

www.whitehouse.gov... coronavirus/

Sounds a lot like what is happening in China now.

a reply to: drussell41

www.thelancet.com...(20)30068-2/fulltext

An important determinant of whether or not 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) will ultimately cause a global pandemic is its ability to become established upon its importation to a new country. Cases of 2019-nCoV infection have so far been reported in 24 countries, yet little human-to-human transmission outside of China has occurred.

The key quantity governing whether or not 2019-nCoV can establish and generate a sustained outbreak on arrival in a new country is the reproduction number, R, which represents the average number of individuals that each infector will transmit the virus to. If R is greater than 1, sustained transmission can occur; if R is less than 1, then chains of transmission will simply stutter out.
In the ongoing outbreak, assuming an R of 2·2, as reported by Li and colleagues,1
then just over half of infections must be prevented to bring R below 1. This might be expected to be challenging if 2019-nCoV can be transmitted when infectors are not symptomatic.

However, there is little evidence to suggest presymptomatic transmission of 2019-nCoV.2
Even if 20% of infections are occurring because of presymptomatic infectors (a level roughly halfway between the respective values for severe acute respiratory syndrome and influenza viruses,3
which is likely to be an overestimate), then 80% of infections would be due to symptomatic infectors. Because only slightly more than half of infections need to be prevented to bring R below 1, effective isolation of symptomatic hosts alone should be sufficient to prevent sustained outbreaks of 2019-nCoV outside China.

Of course, detection and isolation of symptomatic hosts is not always carried out effectively, and detection is challenging when symptoms are mild. Therefore, efforts to counter presymptomatic transmission might sometimes be merited. However, when implementing such measures (eg, the UK's isolation of passengers returning from Hubei, infected or not), the substantial cost to individuals who might not be carrying the virus should be considered carefully. With fast isolation of symptomatic individuals alone, including self-isolation of those with mild symptoms, sustained outbreaks outside of China can be prevented.

I declare no competing interests.

I’m catching up on the thread and I presume this has already been brought up. But it seems there’s some misreading of the data in this preprint.

It states that 44 patients out of the 927 who have never smoked became critical or died. That means 4.74% of never smokers were critical/died.

It also states that 17 patients out of the 137 who were current smokers became critical or died. That means 12.41% of current smokers were critical or died. So current smokers were two and a half times more likely to become critical/die than people who’d never smoked. The evidence for former smokers is weird, but there were only 21 in this study of 1099 people - so probably not statistically significant.

I find the huge number of non-smokers in this cohort weird though, my understanding is that smoking rates are high in China, especially among men. So I’m not sure how representative this cohort is of the general population and why they were selected to be part of this analysis.

This was meant to be a reply to Oppenheimer but it didn’t work woops.

a reply to: solarone

find it hard to believe he spread it all over was diagnosed a couple of days ago and fully recovered in less than 1 week!
mean while everyone else is being quarentined for 14 days??? hows that work then?

originally posted by: Adphil28
a reply to: solarone

find it hard to believe he spread it all over was diagnosed a couple of days ago and fully recovered in less than 1 week!
mean while everyone else is being quarentined for 14 days??? hows that work then?

It doesn’t. It’s BS like most of the info we’re getting.

a reply to: Adphil28

Guessing hes in quarentine or under self isolation


If you look at how the british media has been pulling the race card for the last week, then boom we have a caucasian Male at the centre of uk coronavirus, I believe it's a ruse to bring coronavirus into the weston world on the back of a caucasian, imo this week we will see alot more cases, I really hope I'm wrong it's just my gut feeling.

a reply to: Adphil28

Maybe it’s a trend that it (CVirus) affects Asians (Chinese) worse than Caucasians?

....Or total BS like someone just mentioned.

a reply to: ARM1968

agreed looks like fake news imo, only person to recover in record time and no quarantine after infecting 11 others? sorry dont believe that one, sky news have been putting out a lot of s@ lately, the ads on there app with the face mask that isnt even a medical device are fairly low imo too
just trying to keep sheepeople calm in brighton id expect




Edit: he’s in quarantine in hospital
www.bbc.com... So says bbc


Edited again: this quote “ He thanked friends, family and colleagues for their support, adding "I ask the media to respect our privacy." means your never going to hear from this guy ever again!

I just saw on the greek news, that if the virus is not contained, 60% of the world population will be infected

originally posted by: Hellas
I just saw on the greek news, that if the virus is not contained, 60% of the world population will be infected

Quite likely, but it’s ok our lords and masters will protect us and make sure it doesn’t happen. Feel safer now?

originally posted by: Hellas
I just saw on the greek news, that if the virus is not contained, 60% of the world population will be infected

That's upwards of 84 million death if we go by the official 2% death rate.

Person in self isolation at bath uni awaiting test results

www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk...

Brighton primary school closed because staff had close contact with coronavirus patients

www.brightonandhovenews.org...

Coronavirus 'could infect 60% of global population if unchecked'



Guardian

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Okay...so we're all gonna' DIE!!

Everyone PANIC!! Run AMOK!!

The sky is falling, the sky is falling...we're all gonna DIE!!

DIE, DEATH, CHAOS, SUFFERING AND PAIN....EVERYONE PANIC..it's the END!! The END OF TIMES!!

RUN, PANIC....wave your arms...WE're all gonna DIE!!

It's HOPELESS!!

JEEZUS KRIEST!!!!

Thousands and thousands of DOOM PORN posts about this!

I honestly think people just need something to "DOOM" about to be happy with their own lives!!

Folks....this is NOT the end of civilization!! It just isn't!!

Can we go for a Part "7" of this???, maybe another 5,000 posts???

Are you REALLY that paranoid???

I really think people want something terribly tragic to happen, so they'll have something to talk about!!

Seriously, people...Wake the F up!!!!

With all due respect, some people might say that you're being a little insensitive about this. It was, in fact, the end of the world for those that have died from this in China.

Update: 2-11-2020 Tokyo time 8 pm Tuesday

Today was a national holiday so things were a bit slow here. Tomorrow should be more active on what is happening, but for now, this is what I have.

1. Jan. 29th 1st plane with Japanese arrive. Today they will be tested. If negative, after spending the last 13 days in
isolation (hotel) the 176 people will be released.
2. The samples of the above people will be taken from the BACK OF THE THROAT AND BLOOD. Today's testing according to
on of them was done very carefully.
3. The 176 people were restricted in the hotel and now many of face the possibility of discrimination. As per said.
4. 135 passengers on the liner HAVE tested positive
5. Double of infected in just one day
6. As stated, but unknown, more passengers were taken to hospitals by ambulances today
7. Whether all remaining passengers to be tested has NOT been agreed upon by PM Abe and his cabinet. Still undecided
as of this afternoon.
8. Medication was delivered to 850 passengers yesterday. Please understand that there is a severe lack of medication
9. There is no toothpaste and no disposable diapers on board. No reason is given as of yet.
10. Although it has been mention about the crew members health, seems they are fine and working around the clock
11. BIG PROBLEM IS THIS: THE HEALTH MINISTER IS UNDECIDED WHAT TO DO AS OF YET FOR THOSE ON BOARD.
12. There is no way currently Japan can handle 3000 sick people if they are infected. Impossible
13. China has officially stated that 1016 deaths since Monday
14. Thailand yields to virus fears, bars docking of cruise ship. The cruise ship been turned away by the Philippines, Taiwan and Japan. It left Singapore on Jan. 16th. Its my understanding that there are 2000 passengers on it. I have not
verified those figures though.
15. THERE ARE 163 KNOWN CASES NOW IN JAPAN

That's all I have for now.
Up in the air is that the Japanese govt. may not test the remaining passengers at this time. Nobody today knows what will happen to them, but one thing is for sure a doubling of the virus in passengers has taken place.

Not sure why they won't transport in disposable diapers. Any one here have a comment on that?

See ya all soon. Tomorrow is the big day for Japan and the people on the boat may have to wait till Thursday maybe at the earliest to find out what is going to happen. I guess the meals being served are OK.


And thanks everyone that have been following me and the PM's also