Corona Virus Updates Part 2

a reply to: all2human

It's a virus. It came from earth.

It is not kryptonian to draw its strength from our alien yellow sun.

The reason why the White House is asking for investigation into the origin of 2019-ncov
abcnews.go.com...

The White House on Thursday asked U.S. scientists and medical researchers to investigate the scientific origins of the novel coronavirus, as misinformation about the outbreak spreads online.

The director of the OSTP, Kelvin Droegemeier, wrote in the letter to the president of the National Academy of Sciences, Marcia McNutt, that a widely disputed paper on the origins -- subsequently withdrawn -- had shown the urgency for accurate information about the genesis of the outbreak.

In response, the presidents of the academies shared in a letter a synopsis of their research so far, calling the request "timely given the declaration of a public health emergency and potential for misinformation to confound the response."

a reply to: weirdguy

That's part of the problem.

While I applaud the international community for working quickly and putting up what they get results on as quickly as they can, too many people are reading stuff without the usual peer review process and taking out the scariest bits and running with it as if it's gospel.

Science is actually pretty messy, and this thing will be messy because they're working as fast as they can. Let's be plain - China is some scary sh!t right now, and everyone is going to be dropping what they were doing and putting projects on this into overdrive if they can to try to head off similar disasters everywhere else. But you're going to get to see some of the messiness of that. And we already have.

originally posted by: misfit312
a reply to: SpartanStoic

They are making a whole team around it. They even gave it a name, I can't remember it though. Here's just a snip.

"While the virus spreads, misinformation makes the job of our heroic health workers even harder. It is diverting the attention of decision makers. And it causes confusion and spreads fear to the general public," WHO Director General, Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in a press briefing. 

Ghebreyesus outlined a four pronged approach the WHO is undertaking to fight back.

"In essence, to fight the flood of misinformation, we are building a band of truth-tellers that disperse fact and debunk myths," Ghebreyesus added.

Lmao THE WHO, sound like amateurs..

🤦‍♂️

a reply to: weirdguy

In a bunker below DC “Uh, Mr President, the situation in China is growing extreme quickly. The virus is in the wild so we need to do something to allay fears as we gather response teams and outline our EMS design.

Pres: “So this thing is a danger to the American public and people of the world is what you’re telling me?”

Pencil pusher #2 “Um. No sir not exactly. See we feel that people are going to be adding their own opinions to the OS, and lobbing arguments into forums, eventually making there way into the nightly news. and quite frankly sir that is a clear and present danger we cannot allow.

Prez ....”my god.”

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: all2human
Did they check and see if cremation completely destroys the virus
that would be a big oops.

Yes, heat will completely destroy it unless the cremation is incomplete. Nucleic acids can only withstand so much heat before they are structurally destroyed. Reducing them to ash along with the body would do it.

And that is how to properly respond to someone without making yourself look like a moron!

a reply to: slatesteam



I wouldn't worry about the nightly news.

a reply to: elitegamer23

Oh, I took care of the moron bit later.

Three people on a cruise liner off Japan tested positive for coronavirus, bringing the total number of confirmed cases from the ship to 64, Japan’s health ministry said.

Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd (RCL.N) on Friday banned “any guests holding Chinese, Hong Kong or Macau passports, regardless of when they were there last” from boarding the company’s ships www.reuters.com...

A 60-year-old American has died of the new coronavirus, the first confirmed non-Chinese death of the illness.

a reply to: Violater1

I think I'd start looking at not holding cruises in Asia at all at this point. It's a tourist industry, and every cruise liner out there has to know how susceptible their ships are to the spreading of disease on board.

a reply to: Bicent

If you’re talking about the WHO Rapid Response team to CTs, I believe it’s wait for it.... “Band of Truth Tellers”

Gtfoutta here

These are the same people and org. That cannot actually land on the correct name and info about #Taiwan

So make sure you listen carefully when they spoon-feed ya the appropriate answers to all our questions!

a reply to: kwakakev

I must have missed the part where this Dr. Cottrell was part of a cohort studying this virus first hand.



Some recently published information:

Like SARS-nCoV, 2019-nCoV can be passed directly from person to person by respiratory droplets, and emerging evidence suggested that it may also be transmitted through contact and fomites. Further investigations are required to explore the origin of 2019-nCoV and to reveal how easily the virus can pass between humans. In addition, the asymptomatic incubation period for individuals infected with 2019-nCov has been reported to be 3∼7 days, but it remains obscured whether those without symptoms can spread the virus.

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A preliminary R0 estimate of 1.4-2.5 was presented in WHO’s statement regarding the outbreak of 2019-nCoV, 23 Jan 2020 (1). S. Zhao, et al. estimated the mean R0 for 2019-nCoV in the early phase of the outbreak ranging from 3.3 to 5.5 (likely to be below 5 but above 3 with rising report rate) (10), which appeared slightly higher than those of SARS-CoV (R0: 2∼5).

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Super-spreading events have been implicated in 2019-nCoV transmission, as that in SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV, but their relative importance is still unclear and the super-spreaders are difficult to track. J Read. et al. estimated the R0 for 2019-nCoV to be 3.6-4.0, indicating that 72-75% of transmissions must be prevented in order to stop the increasing trend (12), however, the authors assumed that there is little heterogeneity in reproductive numbers, so the true R0 value could be smaller. Nevertheless, in view of avoiding the 2019-nCoV outbreak turning into an epidemic or even a pandemic, it is better to overestimate rather than underestimate the transmissibility of 2019-nCoV.

Pathogenicity and Transmissibility of 2019-nCoV—A Quick Overview and Comparison with Other Emerging Viruses - Microbes and Infection
Available online 4 February 2020
In Press, Journal Pre-proof

This is when I wonder if all these governments AND ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE U.N, W.H.O AND THE C.D.C ARE LITERALLY a facade or illusion of control. As some of us have said many times ago, the closest comparison to this outbreak we have is Spanish flu. China, well the truth is revealing itself in China, looks like the sick are getting gathered up forcefully and being sent to isolation with other suspected sick or really sick, they will all be sick in the end 🤷‍♂️. China, is getting allot of international pressure, to get BACK TO WORK!!

At this point I am pretty confident that these crazy governments are considering lifting the quarantined in China to get them back to work, and get their economy back in production, REGARDLESS of this virus. I also am beginning to think these other world governments will support China’s decision....

China, will proclaim they tried but its to late and oh boy the pandemic will escalate quick.

I am not sure what to think about it, but I am beginning to think China is contemplating these, because there are international businesses begging china to get back to work.. the world revolves around money.

Over and out.

The latest from China a lot is in Chinese but there are enough English subtitles and pictures to get the idea.
For those that haven't got 45 minutes this contains info on
1.The Doctor who died who is now a martyr
2.Forcible taking away of citizens
3.Claims that 49 cremotoria are operating 24/7 in Wuhan and likely dead is 30000=50000

a reply to: all2human

Valid question. A star for you.

Stars for Ketsuko also.

Stay frosty and safe out there.

a reply to: khnum

As crazy as it sounds but for all we know China, is incinerating the sick now, to try to control the outbreak.. It is a communist fascist, regime where the people do not have rights. Of course this is some serious sinister contemplation I am making, but that would make sense. Sadly.

a reply to: Bicent

At about the 14 minute mark in the video I posted Chinese police arrest a woman who seems to die on them in the struggle,the surreal thing is the sound of the everything is under control speakers in the background etc its like Bladerunner but with medical masks....surreal

Tencent, aka WeChat just ordered staff back to work, at home. All workers will telecommute until further notice.

Looking for source, hard coz that numbers “leak”. It’s all over WeChat and starting up on Twitter.

It’s just a flu. Workers barricade people inside houses in an apt complex.

Twitter

a reply to: khnum

I have seen the video.. That is a illustration of authoritarian rule.

Doing business with China, kinda makes us all guilty of such atrocities occurring in China, at the moment, this is just I guess the first time China, is displaying to the world how they rule their people.

a reply to: Bicent

The same could be said of the Middle East Africa and South America as consumers we all share collective karma of Corporate greed,what concerns me about China is bio-security do we really want to import agricultural produce from that food chain?