Prince Harry and Megan

a reply to: Boadicea

Where is Harry stating he is unhappy with his wife

originally posted by: odzeandennz
Where is Harry stating he is unhappy with his wife

The anonymous sources, duuuuhhhhhh.

a reply to: Boadicea

For Archie's sake, I really hope they can make it together. They have a great opportunity here to grow and build a life together.

Wonderful hopeful words.. but I’m confused 🤔.. you basically lambasted me for having the same hope for them in another thread because you were convinced Meghan would be the one big heartbreak that would devastate Harry, and she was evil for plotting to take him away from his beloved Royal family.

Did I understand your previous posts wrong ?.. or have you perhaps changed your mind ?
Not sure , but definitely confused about that whole post above , of which I took a quote from.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

An example ^^^ of the types of posts you were making about them and their wanting to leave not long ago.

I’m happy to see you wish them all well as a family unit 👍🏼.. and I’m sure they’ll work out the financial issues to their new life .

originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: Boadicea

Where is Harry stating he is unhappy with his wife

Please stop putting words in my mouth for your own (real or imagined) outrage. I honestly don't even understand why you would want to do so. I have never said that Harry is unhappy with his wife. And if I wanted to say that, I would have... but I have no reason to think he is and therefore no reason for saying it. I have, in fact, expressed my hope that Harry and Meghan can work through this together, establishing a firm foundation to build their lives and family -- for Archie's sake at the least.

But seriously, what do you think my takeaway is going to be here? I know without a smidgen of doubt just how wrong you have been and continue to be about me. I KNOW -- I'm not guessing, presuming, wondering, projecting, or speculating. If you can be so wrong about me, that's a pretty good indication that you are just as wrong about Harry and Meghan. And probably for the same reason: You refuse to accept -- indeed reject! -- simple facts and truths.

I've had very specific criticisms of how they have handled matters, and you know it. But you have not and apparently will not address the specific concerns I've expressed. Why ignore what I'm actually saying, what I'm actually concerned about, and assign the worst to me??? What possible practical purpose could that serve?

a reply to: Sheye

Wonderful hopeful words.. but I’m confused 🤔.. you basically lambasted me for having the same hope for them in another thread because you were convinced Meghan would be the one big heartbreak that would devastate Harry, and she was evil for plotting to take him away from his beloved Royal family.

That's not how I remember it. You lambasted me as a "hater" because I dared to criticize how they went about this and what they were asking/expecting. For example, their disrespect for the Queen. Also their weasel words about wanting the perks of the Royal Family but not the work.

Do I have serious doubts about Meghan... and therefore Harry and Meghan's marriage? You betcha. Do I think they put themselves in this position? You betcha. Do I think they are facing very serious challenges personally, in business and in their marriage? Yup!

We all make mistakes. If we're lucky, we learn from them and do better going forward. Harry and Meghan have a great opportunity here. They will make of it what they will. I think Harry will come out on top in the end. I'm not so sure about Meghan. On the plus side, she has the power to prove me -- and every one of her detractors -- wrong.

Did I understand your previous posts wrong ?.. or have you perhaps changed your mind ? Not sure , but definitely confused about that whole post , of which I took a quote from.

Apparently your understanding of my previous posts were wrong...

Most bemusing to me, however, is that I am interested in the political angles here, particularly in relation to Epstein and Sara Latham/the Democrats and no one is interested in discussing those though... Meghan has surrounded herself with some very questionable people. Or perhaps they have surrounded her. I'm not sure. And while I definitely have the inclination to research it further, I don't have the time...

Being that I grew up watching them grow up via the media, it's my personal opinion that William is the limelight whore of the two and Harry never was. The way he carries himself in front of the cameras has always felt much more uncomfortable & reluctant to me than the way William does -- Harry does not fit the public persona mold, IMO.

I also think it's bulls# they can't just step away and sever financial ties as they please. Royal protocols be damned, none of them should HAVE to ask permission to vacate the duties and coffer handout, they should just be able to, period. Being born a rich slave to the crown is still a rich slave if you have no choice and your life is planned to every piss you take by someone else. None of them should have to suck it up instead of gunning for some semblance of a normal life. Look at the last 20 or 30 years' worth of family hot messes and tell me there's justification for sticking around. Monarchy aside, treat them as a normal civilian family here -- if YOUR granny dictated how you lived life, what you did for a living, what to support or not, etc, would you seriously put up with that s#? No, you would NOT. You'd end up taking crap for it, but you'd tell granny off as politely (or maybe impolitely) as possible, and move your ass away from the matriarchal control and live the way you want to with whomever you settled down with.

Maybe they'd blame the spouse for everything under the sun to take the heat off themselves for being unreasonable and antiquated in practices. Par for the course when you rock the boat and go against family. BTDT to a much more minor extent with my mother blaming my husband for choices I made independently of him (it's called being pissy over not being able to get someone to do what YOU want them to do, especially if it doesn't do anything to make you look good by proxy)

As to Megan, who cares. If she continues with the charities and public engagement stuff, and actually enjoys it & cares about them (again, Harry doesn't seem to hit the mark there) then...who CARES? He's obviously happy with her, their behavior and body language when appearing together doesn't indicate it's for show. Whereas, I swear to god, William and Kate have gone Charles and Diana in their relationship, their body language says "I"m just with them for the cameras" to me.

Ultimately, I don't give a rat's ass about the royals, but holy crap, America in general sure does. I'm just tired of hearing people bitch and moan over something that's not even a seat of real power anymore. It's just money with serious groveling requirement strings attached. Let them walk from it, for god's sake, that's not a life worth living.

a reply to: Boadicea

That's not how I remember it. You lambasted me as a "hater" because I dared to criticize how they went about this and what they were asking/expecting. For example, their disrespect for the Queen. Also their weasel words about wanting the perks of the Royal Family but not the work.

Hmm.. not exactly how I remember it either... but perhaps your choice of words to describe their statements and actions led me to believe you were.🤷🏻‍♀️

At any rate.. that’s all behind us.. and I’m pleased you are wishing them well going forward as a family... as I am.
My apologies if I did not see that was your wish earlier.

a reply to: Nyiah

Being that I grew up watching them grow up via the media, it's my personal opinion that William is the limelight whore of the two and Harry never was. The way he carries himself in front of the cameras has always felt much more uncomfortable & reluctant to me than the way William does -- Harry does not fit the public persona mold, IMO.

I must say I agree with pretty much everything you said in that post.. except the above quote.

I guess it just goes to show how different people see things and people’s characters differently.

Harry has always seemed like the down to earth, jovial type monarch. I’ve seen so many pics and footage of him smiling and laughing... and even with his sister in law Kate.. he seemed to be photographed laughing much more than Prince William. I even used to think Kate and Harry had a secret little innocent crush on each other because of it. 😆

William on the other hand seems serious, and pensive at times, like he has the weight of the Monarchy on his shoulders. He and Kate seemed like a stark contrast to each other in public. I see that uncomfortableness in William while Kate is beaming with all smiles everywhere. She strikes me as someone that has no problem with the limelight and quite enjoys it.. whereas I’m not too sure about William.

Just my two cents from my perspective.. everyone is entitled to their own.🤷🏻‍♀️

originally posted by: Robbo2006

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: Plotus

One can wish but.....facts are that Meghan is a manipulative, controlling narcissist, that caused a rift between the two formerly inseparable brothers, quite aside from the fact she seeks to isolate AND SEPARATE him from his family AT CHRISTMAS, and now "if you love me", Meghan now demands that Harry abandons his own identity, reject who he has been his entire life, resign his Prince title and role, and move with her to North America.

All this for a very promiscuous girl that dated a porn star.
A porn star.
Seriously.

This will end in tears for Harry. And divorce.
Predictable.

If Harry follows in his fathers footsteps he will be bonking someone on the side soon and will find somebody twice his age to marry and with the queens consent. Isn’t that how it goes.

Probably...and the sad part is that this would be an improvement....

originally posted by: odzeandennz

originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: Plotus

One can wish but.....facts are that Meghan is a manipulative, controlling narcissist, that caused a rift between the two formerly inseparable brothers, quite aside from the fact she seeks to isolate AND SEPARATE him from his family AT CHRISTMAS, and now "if you love me", Meghan now demands that Harry abandons his own identity, reject who he has been his entire life, resign his Prince title and role, and move with her to North America.

All this for a very promiscuous girl that dated a porn star.
A porn star.
Seriously.

This will end in tears for Harry. And divorce.
Predictable.

And you know all this how...

Read the news lately ?
And I gave you a reference....but go ahead, defend the indefensible because, because....

a reply to: Sheye

At any rate.. that’s all behind us.. and I’m pleased you are wishing them well going forward as a family... as I am. My apologies if I did not see that was your wish earlier.

Sounds good to me!

Thank you