Found Another Old Gun ! - Magnet Fishing with Trueman

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I check it again. Same result. Any idea how old it could be?

a reply to: Trueman

I put this in an edit, but I didn't realize I was at the bottom of the page...

ETA - Also, the way it's rusted makes me think the piece is cast metal of some type, not machined steel. It's definitely ferrous if you picked it up with your magnet so it has at least some iron content in it. Did it stick hard to your magnet, or just barely?

I'll bet if you tried heating part of it with something like a propane plumbing torch it would probably melt fairly easily. This would be another way to tell. A propane torch would never melt steel. Pot metals have a lot of zinc, tin and magnesium along with other stuff in them to keep the melting temperature low, but they do have enough iron where a magnet would grab it.

As far as the age, I'd guess 50's-60's maybe. Not much to go on without some more tests.

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: autopat51

No wires. All solid metal.

i think you misunderstood my meaning. when i was a kid some of my toy guns had a wire type spring in that same place.
i think it was for the hammer.

originally posted by: autopat51

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: autopat51

No wires. All solid metal.

i think you misunderstood my meaning. when i was a kid some of my toy guns had a wire type spring in that same place.
i think it was for the hammer.

I see what you are looking at and it does look like a wire spring. It doesn't look substantial enough to be a hammer spring on a real firearm, but it does look like the type found on a toy gun.

a reply to: butcherguy

I see exactly what he's talking about as well, and that's just what it looks like to me also. It was a spring assist from a small coil spring to pull the bottom of the hammer forward on a cap gun. Probably saw a million of them as a kid.

I honestly think we're looking at some kind of a toy or replica here.

OP...and please don't think I am diminishing your find. It's still really cool. Plus, a toy of this vintage probably has more value than the real thing. Especially given the condition it's in.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Plus, a toy of this vintage probably has more value than the real thing. Especially given the condition it's in.

A toy cap gun (a lookalike of the Remington 1851 two barrel derringer) that I played with as a kid can bring $100 today if it is in good condition.

Looking at it again after a night's rest I gotta say it looks kind of weird. I agree with FlyingClayDisk.

originally posted by: autopat51

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: autopat51
No wires. All solid metal.

i think you misunderstood my meaning. when i was a kid some of my toy guns had a wire type spring in that same place.
i think it was for the hammer.

I did. Like I said, I'm clueless about guns

How many times have you lost your magnet ? I'm getting one that's good for 400 pounds wondering how you get it off stationary items like metal beams or really heavy items .

originally posted by: Gargoyle91
How many times have you lost your magnet ? I'm getting one that's good for 400 pounds wondering how you get it off stationary items like metal beams or really heavy items .

You shouldn't have a problem with a 400 Lbs. pull force magnet. The one I'm using now is 1280 Lbs. pull force, once this boy grabs flat surface, you have low chances to get it back. I damaged the rope trying to rescue it.

When I was about to give up, I found a long pipe near me. I went right to the edge and hit it with the pipe on one side, so the magnet slid to the corner of the flat metal and then I pulled the paracord.

It was a lucky shot.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I was pretty sure at the time of posting about the Wesson that there was an older model with interchangeable barrels, but I was wrong so I also said it was probably a toy cap gun a few posts down.
Could be an Italian cap gun replica

a reply to: Brotherman

Could be an Italian cap gun replica

That's even more rare for me. It's already framed and hanging on the wall

a reply to: Trueman

I found this picture from guys pulling guns from canals looks like the barrel and handle are the 1st to go

a reply to: Gargoyle91

That photo makes me want to go magnet fishing again. I only did one side of the river on that spot. Tomorrow I'll check the other.

a reply to: Gargoyle91
Why leave the trigger?

I can almost make out the initials H.R.C.

a reply to: Trueman

Trueman. I'm looking into getting into metal detecting as a hobby. I was looking at a couple of brands, but I wanted to ask you for your opinion. I'm looking for one that's general purpose and taken underwater. My budget is $1000 at most for the time being.

I appreciate it.

Nevermind. My dumb self forgot that you were using a magnet. My bad.

a reply to: AutomateThis1

Well done all of you ! What a great thread to read & all had the same common purpose & desire to solve a true mystery. Whether it did or not is perhaps debateable but well done all for inputting & OMG ! not 1 negative nigel or troll . A genuine pleasure to read .
Oh & op......good luck in future searches !
cheers all

originally posted by: AutomateThis1
a reply to: Trueman
Trueman. I'm looking into getting into metal detecting as a hobby. I was looking at a couple of brands, but I wanted to ask you for your opinion. I'm looking for one that's general purpose and taken underwater. My budget is $1000 at most for the time being.
I appreciate it.

Sorry for the time I took to reply. Here is a previous video where I unbox the magnet I'm using now. You'll find there a link to Amazon, if you want to buy it.

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