Shadow people will not leave your home and they can kill you.

a reply to: TheAlleghenyGentleman
Many have had shared experiences with you, and like wise ascribe super natural forces.
What other explanation is there. The question is really, it you are compelled to understand your own experiences, you are well advised to have a balance of forces.
Maybe it's a trick of the mind, maybe not. Very rare are things that will alleviate the anxiety of considering the supernatural in this way.

a reply to: rom12345

I had seen the shadow people since I was boy. It all came to a head when I had my hatman experience when I was in my early 20’s. There experiences subsided when I was bootcamp in the Marines and started up again after I was in for two years. Now, it comes and goes. The more I notice these things the more it happens. When I let it go I feel free and clear.

That aspect of being noticed has always reminded me of the UFO phenomenon. People say that when they see a UFO and want it to come closer it does. There is something about being noticed and wanting to be noticed. Maybe it is a frequency thing. I have no idea.

originally posted by: hiddeninsite
a reply to: DeathSlayer

I knew this would be your response.

My concrete statements were based on the fact that if you call on the name of Jesus it will work. And I truly believe that.

Let me explain it this way. If I were in the most terrifying moment of my life and I call on Jesus then he will answer. He is love, he is our Father, he is one of part of God and one of part of Holy Spirit - absolute love. God loves his children whether believers or not. Yes, I truly believe that the name has power in that moment of absolutely nothing else to call on.

YOU are giving power to demons by not fully believing on the grace of Jesus and absolute "I am the Alpha and the Omega" of who he is. I would argue that you need to learn of the true nature of Jesus before you can deal with demons. I say that with all respect. All knees will bow before Jesus one day. And as a result that means now too. Jesus is the answer, not you or I or any human.

I understand where you're coming from with your response. My experiences have been similar. When under demonic attack, there is only one name in the universe that one can invoke--Jesus Christ--and it must be invoked by the authority of His blood which was shed for the remission of sins. We as humans have no power whatsoever. To think so is actually a very dangerous trap. Father Malachi Martin's book "Hostage to the Devil" discusses a case where a priest was almost killed for being walked oh so subtly into the trap of thinking that way during the course of an exorcism.

a reply to: rom12345
Are UFOs the strong delusion spoken of in the NT that causes the falling away? Many believe thy are demons?

Interesting thread OP. S & F.

It sounds like you've done a lot of research in this area. You also seem to have a fair amount of training and experience.
A sincere thanks for sharing your insights.

For a number of reasons, I've encountered entities that fall under the category of 'ghosts' and entities that were clearly demonic. Many people in my family have, and the characteristics and behaviors of each have been similar.

The 'ghosts' tend to be fairly harmless. While some of the activities are certainly unnerving and frightening--audible footsteps in halls when nobody is home (upstairs unit heard from downstairs), stereos turning on to specific songs midway through a CD, etc., I never got a feeling of impending harm or malevolence. As you pointed out, visible manifestations of ghosts are translucent; I could see light coming through the figure.
In the cases I'm familiar with, research suggested the entity met with some sort of tragic ending or circumstances in life and seems to be stuck between this life and the next. They don't know what to do because they've lost the ability to choose and are fixed in the state in which they passed--depression (suicide in the case of the one I saw and heard). I've read this and experienced it to be true. I'd be curious to know your thoughts as well. A bible, holy water, and a sincere prayer asking the ghost to acknowledge the light and go to it in Jesus' name was helpful.

In the case of demonic entities, the darkness and absorbtion of light were apparent. I also noticed hideous facial contortions and what appeared to be a cape or robe. Others I know recall similar details.
Paralysis was sometimes at play as well. It was these encounters (and others) that led me to learn spiritual warfare.
These things are very real.

a reply to: PhilbertDezineck
They appear to have different rules on a fundamental level.
I think the UFO phenomena and that of vampires, demons, fairies , shadow people, angels, etc. is the same thing.
For many there are reasons to believe in super natural entities.
Grappling with this in relation to science is not possible for now, unless your willing to consider those who have experiences psychotic, which is probably true in many cases, but is unhelpful. I think it odd to be so bold as to think of escaping 'persistent delusions' that have differentiated us from animals.
I guess, if you choose to believe in supernatural entities, at least pick the right one.

a reply to: TheAlleghenyGentleman

I hear what you are saying. I honestly didn't think I was arguing with Deathslayer. He asked a question, and I answered. And then I fleshed out some further answers.

I do not like arguing. I guess I think of it as a shared back and forth and expansion of thoughts. Maybe others think of it as arguing (?).

a reply to: hiddeninsite

Maybe Im just a sensitive little 40 something snowflake

This thread topic comes up time to time but never gains any ground imho. I want to build up a list of causes and resolves from our members here. We have a great source of member content we could whittle down and find some collective answers to why it subsided or worsened from person to person.

originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
a reply to: PhilbertDezineck

I never said I was an exorcist.

You are wrong.

My mistake. Where you trained by the Catholic church. If so how do you rectify their worship of Mary as Co redeemer?

If it helps, Catholics don't worship St. Mary. Worship is reserved for God alone. We venerate Mary, as did Christ.
I'm not honestly sure where the notion of Mary as Co-redemtrix got started, but Pope Francis has squarely rejected that idea for obvious reasons.

a reply to: TheAlleghenyGentleman

I don't think you are a snowflake at all. You want answers and not necessarily just from the Jesus side of things.

I have delved into searching for answers in the past and come across the salt, the haunted Indigeneous lands, using insense, sage, sweetgrass, burning a candle, burying charms to ward off evil, all sorts of things. I am just about 55 and all these years have, for me, led to the conclusion that there are two sources of power: evil (demons, the devil, nephilim) and God (Jesus, Holy Spirit, angels, blessings, Holy oil). So, no matter what method one uses there is power attached to it. The thing is, is it God's power backing the methods used or is it evil?

I guess I could add that I have many friends and aquaintances that have had paranormal things occur and they have tried multiple ways to rid themselves of such and it has never worked. Often the torment increases.

Sometimes there is power in using charms, and other objects, prayers, chants, but ultimately if the wrong source of power is being accessed then it leads to a false sense of protection and only gives help for a while, but then it comes back with a vengeance. That is why, and through my own experiences, the name of Jesus is the ultimate be all to end all. The Bible says that the devil has already been defeated and so that means that it is a done deal and it allows me to use Jesus's name to put an end to all nonsense. And it is done. This may not make complete sense as I have tried to make it simple and quick, but I think you'll grasp what I mean.

I guess others have to pitch in. But for now you have little old me, hee hee! And not much is going on today, so I might be hanging in for some time.

a reply to: Gandalf77

I totally agree. One cannot stand on one's own power. We have none. We are conduits for the Holy Spirit. Only with this awareness and activation (speaking, laying on of hands, rebuking) do we have this ability, but again it is only through Holy Spirit working through us.

God wants to use us. He will not interfere. We must call on him in order for anything to take effect.

Just saying all that extra for those who aren't in the know.

originally posted by: Gandalf77

originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
a reply to: PhilbertDezineck

I never said I was an exorcist.

You are wrong.

My mistake. Where you trained by the Catholic church. If so how do you rectify their worship of Mary as Co redeemer?

If it helps, Catholics don't worship St. Mary. Worship is reserved for God alone. We venerate Mary, as did Christ.
I'm not honestly sure where the notion of Mary as Co-redemtrix got started, but Pope Francis has squarely rejected that idea for obvious reasons.

Do you have a link to the pope saying that and was it speaking from the seat of Peter or was that his opinion? When you said we are you a catholic?
Didn't Jesus ask who was mother and who was his brothers? Matthew 12:48 Doesn't the church still say she was a perpetual virgin?

originally posted by: NewzNose
a reply to: DeathSlayer

It all exists.
Them. They.. He. She.

Every "woo-woo" character ever whispered about around childhood campfires are real.

Your energy, frequency and vibration endear them to you.

Don't believe me?

Don't much care ifn you don't. Won't change TRUTH of their existence one iota.

But they are real.

Got proof of this TRUTH or are we just supposed to believe you? Because I swear to you I can fly, it's the TRUTH.

originally posted by: hiddeninsite
a reply to: Gandalf77

I totally agree. One cannot stand on one's own power. We have none. We are conduits for the Holy Spirit. Only with this awareness and activation (speaking, laying on of hands, rebuking) do we have this ability, but again it is only through Holy Spirit working through us.

God wants to use us. He will not interfere. We must call on him in order for anything to take effect.

Just saying all that extra for those who aren't in the know.

EEEEK I hope you really don't believe you are powerless and that all your power comes from a make believe entity called GOD created by a human to brainwash individuals into thinking they are weak and only GOD can save them.

I don't understand why people can't just own up to their accomplishments and their failures. They always gotta say it was GOD's plan. Have some self respect and accept the good in your life was because YOU created, YOU did, nobody and nothing else.

The only people that I know that have mentioned seeing shadow people were those that were high on meth for a week and haven't slept.

In other words, lack of sleep can cause dark spots to appear in the corner of your eye, many have labeled this shadow people. I label it as a hallucination brought on by lack of sleep. I've experienced it my self so I know what it was and what I saw and it was my own mind playing tricks on me.

a reply to: jidnum

I am a human and if I live by my carnal mind, yes I am weak. When I apply my spiritual mind it overcomes human carnality and I am powerful in the righteousness of Jesus. I am a daughter of Father God. I am connected to him. I contain power - Holy Spirit. Alone, I am nothing. With God I can do as Jesus and this I am learning. I am learning how to command the weather, commanding healing, rebuking evil. I know now who I am in Jesus. Without Jesus I have nothing. We are of one spirit but He created me.

Think of it as how we have been grafted onto the vine. I am a branch of the entire vine. However, the mature vine plant contains the strength of the entire vine. I get my strength from the entire vine and its roots and the whole of the purpose of the leaves. But I am only a branch and if I die then nothing happens to the rest of the vine. Kind of like that. I'm trying to explain it so those who are not Christians, or even are baby Christians can understand.

This is a very difficult concept to many who have not been born again. They will not understand my righteousness in Jesus unless they have Holy Spirit living in them.

I have self respect. But, He who lives in me is stronger than anything that could be against me. I am powerful for Holy Spirit lives in me and is God.

I think it's beautiful, amazing and I am so very loved to be a part of such might and grace.

originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck

originally posted by: Gandalf77

originally posted by: PhilbertDezineck

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
a reply to: PhilbertDezineck

I never said I was an exorcist.

You are wrong.

My mistake. Where you trained by the Catholic church. If so how do you rectify their worship of Mary as Co redeemer?

If it helps, Catholics don't worship St. Mary. Worship is reserved for God alone. We venerate Mary, as did Christ.
I'm not honestly sure where the notion of Mary as Co-redemtrix got started, but Pope Francis has squarely rejected that idea for obvious reasons.

Do you have a link to the pope saying that and was it speaking from the seat of Peter or was that his opinion? When you said we are you a catholic?
Didn't Jesus ask who was mother and who was his brothers? Matthew 12:48 Doesn't the church still say she was a perpetual virgin?

Here's a link to Pope Francis's comments on the matter: Pope calls idea of declaring Mary co-Redemtrix 'foolishness.'

Yes, I'm a Roman Catholic convert.

Yes, I think the church still considers Mary to be a perpetual virgin.

I had a dream of the thing in black with the big hat. He referenced 2 dreams i had about him before and i told him to leave. He was standing in my back yard saying he was going to ruin me. I told him i ordered him to leave. What he said next still bothers me.
" you have no dominion over me, son of Adam."

a reply to: LambertSimnel

You know what he was referencing, I think?
If you need help let me know.

I’ve seen shadow things before and used to get lots of sleep paralysis until I moved to another place. I think they choose places to live then stay there forever