China calls new US Space Force a 'threat to space peace and security'

Well looky looky it seems that someones balls are on the hooky. Space Force? Did someone say Space Force? It seems like based on the title the Peoples Republic of Virtue had someone crap in their chow mien and its the USA. I guess they don't like the protein additive and would rather eat a handful of flies from a 55 liter drum of used cooking oil from the local Fish & Insects R Us restaurants. Fook China. They have destroyed the global economy for all and they did it the old fashioned way; bribes, cheating, stealing and everything else wrong in the world. From a societal perspective the USA is collapsing but whomever is in control of those ICBM missiles runs the show. That also includes those UFO's which generally appear as a flashing pulsating orange objects in space. I believe they are classified US Space force toys. Some are silent some are not. Based on what I have seen they have also developed cirquids technology to generate electricity from salt water and can go under the ocean. Regardless of what side your on our military controls the world show and they have some real cool stuff. With respect to aliens, I don't know but go back to those WWII pilot training films for the USA bombers and our technology for that time in the 1940's was way ahead of the times. Search for them on you tube. They are quite impressive. Based on that it could be all man made as in native to the earth. Thus no aliens from space but I have no idea.

Based on my videos that I submitted to The Black Vault and their response back it is in my opinion said objects are classified US Space force toys. They did not tell me that. They only said they are seeing "triangles". Most have a triangular configuration. Why I say so is that they "Black Vault" simply dropped off the face of the earth. Their opened case remains open but nothing for several months. Not even closed out as a hoax. As a former government relator to the DOD that's what happens when you got something and they simply want you to fade away as in all communication stops. That's US government how to sanitize 101.

Whatever.

So lets get to the article. I wonder if the Chinese are trying to do an end around fire drill. Obviously they are disturbed. Boo hoo. I love it. Heres the story:

China calls new US Space Force a 'threat to space peace and security'

Enjoy.

a reply to: Waterglass
Everyone ran to China for cheap labor and now they begin to turn the tables. They have bought whole Companies from the German industrial sector, automation stuff. High tier players.

They are big on laser defense. Do not underestimate China. Many former German engineers and designers from VW, Audi and BMW are now working for Chinese car companies. Why do you think these cars suddenly start to look appealing, haha, that joke had to be made.

Of course they would call it a threat and the Russians are thankful that their Chinese allies are the first to beat on the bush with this topic.

With respect to aliens, I don't know but go back to those WWII pilot training films for the USA bombers and our technology for that time in the 1940's was way ahead of the times.

So were the Germans. Did we had Alien technology too?

Well, since China is already hard at work to dominate a new space race it makes sense they see the U.S. space force as a challenge to their attempt at dominance.

a reply to: Waterglass

Too bad. Last I checked, China didn't make rules for us and they don't intimidate us.

a reply to: Waterglass


Hillary was supposed to have won.

China was supposed to have become the world economic leader.

I can't be more blunt about this.

The US was supposed to still have high unemployment, stagnant growth, no manufacturing, a cease of our oil production, and a move towards socialism.

We'll still probably end up there, but it's a new timetable because we elected Trump.

a reply to: LSU2018
Mhm. The German generals and Hitler thought that too about the USA.

Suddenly the USAs production rates skyrocketed and just simply outnumbered the Germans production rate by far, because you had the infrastructure in place already but your economy was low, until you all put your effort into making things. Women, too. German military saw this too late, it played a big role, too.

Guess what happens if China really starts to get into the game. They have the resources, they begin to follow up on tech and infrastructure and they have one huge advantage of being a governmental scheme that get's things done.

If they need a bridge, they build it, they give a # about the environment. What takes us westerns years to accomplish because of our rules, they just pull it through with manpower. No #s given.

China want the ultimate high ground so they can dominate the planet.
The US are wisely IMO not wanting that to become reality.

Think of it like this-If the US retain space dominance,one day we may have mega companies like Weyland Yutani.

But if China obtain space dominance it will be more akin to the Borg.

Both have problems,but I don't want the world to go full Borg.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Very good. Yes

a reply to: Oleandra88

Bottom line is that as a race they have not ever invented anything of technological importance in the last 50 years. OK gun powder back in the day 2000 - 3000 years ago. They have to beg, cheat or steal our technology. They also seem to suck at reverse engineering.

a reply to: Waterglass
That above is changing and it would be ignorant to ignore and keep on laughing about how dumb the Chinese are with everything.

Many things that happen and go down in China, you never really hear of it because their government is shielding them from the west and shielding the west from getting to really know what is going on there.

These are 1+ billion people, a 7ths of the world population. I am just saying underestimating a perceived enemy is never good.

I think trump’s just trying to rattle their cage with all the publicity.

Does anybody remember the Star Wars defense system ?

It helped hasten the downfall of the USSR.

Let Russia and China blow some cash by showing them the shiny nickel .


I believe the space force just getting started from the private sector .

The real mission is going to be command and controlled of the militaries starlink satellites . SpaceX filed a request to, up the number of satellites to 42,000 instead of 12,000 . When the production line gets fires up the cost of each satellite going to be around $1 million plus the buyers electronica package .

Well below the current cost of a military reconnaissance satellite at over $1 billion . ( probably 100 or 150 starlink satellites )

They’ll be for sale to private or military use each independently maneuverable . Individual warfighters could have a dedicated satellite i’m not have to wait for hours of days for an orbiting satellite . That sure as hell would make our troops safer .

The Chinese are way ahead of us on anti-satellite capabilities .

But it’s gonna be hard to shoot down , up to42,000 satellites . 🎯 ( I know the military won’t operate all of them that’s just a number )

This is similar to hundred year battle between tank vs gun. When someone makes better armor the other guy makes a better gun .

China and Russia’s anti-satellite capabilities are the gun .

Starlink is the armor.

A complete change in military communications and reconnaissance would give us the undeniable strategic advantage for now .

The Space force project has been stood up for 18 months. The schedule for starlink satellites now is 1000 by the end of 2020 and 12,000 more somewhere around 2025 .

I’ve been pretty uneasy the last few years about the vulnerability of our satellites .

But if this is the plan I’ve got a tip my hat to Trump again . My kids and grandkids will be a lot safer .

More winning !!!

S&F good post and thanks for bringing the subject up .

a reply to: Waterglass
IDK
Seems space has always been a very unaccommodating environment, wrought with numerous violent collisions and what have you?



Heck, back when I fiddled with electronics China was the only, scratch that, the most economical option to purchase a PWM from.

Little blue planet in such a fuss over what, the unknown? But extreme suspicions that lead to stupid misunderstandings, which then lead to bloodshed?

But if they want to build their own springboard for the same want that we desire, I don't see any harm in it.

I would suggest finding a big enough table where we can all pass the butter though, before we try interacting with some unknown we might find in our adventures. Something I expect will work in our favor should the need arise.

a reply to: Fallingdown

It's a three year test contract with Starlink. The biggest issue is getting the commercial and military communications systems to work together. That's one reason they're already starting to work with them. It's going to take time to get everything on the same page.

a reply to: Waterglass

Chinese are trying to infect space with communism.

*Meh*

China has quantum radar and supersonic missiles, according to their own reports, so why should they fear a “space force” that is a pipedream of some 70 year old orange guy??

Well, just goes to show that if you are not smart enough to figure it out yourself, you can always b1tch moan and complain to anybody willing to listen.

I am pretty sure we already have a’space force’ and *that* is what they (China, Russia, Iran, etc.) are PO’d about: they don’t have the tech; they can’t steal it; they can’t hold people ransom... all of them are screwed and they know it!

What about Russia’s aircraft carrier burning in port?? Where is China’s “We will bury you” speech??

They won’t because they know they can’t. KJU is sitting at the kiddie table. And the reason has not been revealed to us, the public (except a few, who can tell “stories” of what they saw, which doesn’t mean much because it seems too fantastic to be true), so here we sit. A “Mexican, American standoff” where Mexico is any country that wants what we already have.

How do these things work out in the movies??

Which is why nothing will happen.

a reply to: Zaphod58

From what I’ve read the global lightning test is significantly faster with their broadband encryption .

It looks like they want to get away from the war fighters Information network too.

Instead of holding onto something for 50 years maybe someone told the military about Moore’s law ? Lol

The constellation networks aren’t moving to adapt with the military . It’s gonna have to be the other way around .

One thing to remember the military isn’t dealing with a conglomerate like Boeing or General dynamics .

Musk needs the money to finish the whole project .

That should light a fire under his ass .

I ran across these two links a little while back .

Army not sold on broadband satellite project Oct 9th

Army enthusiastic about Commercial broadband November 5

For me that was the writing on the wall .

They are upset, like the U.S.S.R. was after Reagan announced SDI.

We absolutely cannot allow the Chinese to dominate the Space Race or any part of Space that would be a very dangerous thing to do.

However, we must accept the fact that we have to once again push ourselves to maintain our geopolitical grip on power with the new Space Race.

Good Thread, S+F

You have to admit...they make some kick ass kung fu movies.

Hmmmmmm the Chicoms are funny.......

The Space Force is a threat?

To quote Tom Clancy, the CHicoms represent a clear and present danger to the world at large:

The Taiwan nonsense
The Brutal suppression of its own people Part I: Tienanmen
The Brutal suppression of its own people Part II: Hong Kong
The Brutal suppression of its own people Part III: Concentration Camps for Muslims
The total disregard for the environment
The total disregard for intellectual property
The total disregard for space in general. Their asinine shoot down of a satellite in 2007 left thousands of pieces of debits in orbit constituting a serious hazard for others in space.

etc etc