How have you missed it?

a reply to: PhilbertDezineck

Not me! I say screw um all !

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: PhilbertDezineck

Not me! I say screw um all !

If you dont vote then you dont have a dog in the fight.

a reply to: MayRenee

Lets say you are right. What is wrong with Russia? All I see is racist slander in your argument. The USSR is no longer and the WW2 bad vibes are dead and burred as far as I can see.

Why is Russia kicked out of the Olympics while people like Lance Armstrong have a healthy career on the cheating card? Whats up USA? Cannot handle the competition so have to cheat through the back door? Weak, Weak, Weak...

I know doping in sport is an issue, but the one side application of justice in this issue just shows a nation too scared of the competition.

What ever happened to the rule of law as a unifying standard in peoples amongst nations? Perhaps you are the one being deceived as the war hawks and neo cons look for some outrageous point of discourse to justify their bloated budgets, theft, war crimes, murder and other deceptive tactics in the rules of war.

a reply to: MayRenee

It's not the Russians who made Trump. You ignore that he's the logical consequence of a culture where the hero needs 3 things: fame, fortune, a big boobs babe. It doesn't matter how he got that, his character doesn't matter, in a society of capitalism and Hollywood it only matters he is the hero. After that he can do whatever he wants because the personality cult doesn't allow character development.
The hero can blow up entire cities but remains the hero.

After the smart, smooth Obama with his intellectual air and wife people were longing for someone they can understand and trust because he keeps up the illusion complicated politics can be made with simple short sentences.
And they know him a long time, he was on the telly and he is rich, if you question him, you are anti-american because he is the American Dream.

So they pick and chose the facts they want to believe, the hero even has an archenemy, those nasty liberal media guys and in their head he is fighting hard for them.
It's a lie, sure but an incredible powerful one. And there's nothing one can say to snap them out of their trance. Everything just adds to the selective perception and confirmation bias.

Let's just hope Trump doesn't order them to kill everyone they perceive as liberal, because they would. Gladly.
All the lessons learnd from history, like never to follow authority blindly, are meaningless because he is different, he is the hero, he fights for them.
You and me who don't understand that can only bunker in and hope and pray he doesn't actually use the power he has.
*fingers crossed

I just wanted to say welcome back..well that and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, use paragraphs.

a reply to: MayRenee
This should be in politics I'm not interested in this click bait nonesense from a conditioned sheep.

Clowns are everywhere

Russian meme magic won the election....................


Okay.

a reply to: Peeple

Is that some fever dream of what the Left thinks Trump supporters think? Yeah...no

a reply to: MayRenee

If only we had Trump's tax return we would know which countries were paying him millions for his hotel branding.

People want to see evidence:

From the 'Office of the director of national intelligence'

Background to “Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections”: The Analytic Process and Cyber Incident Attribution

Key Judgements:

Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.
We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments.
 We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.
 Moscow’s approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russia’s understanding of the electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency.
 Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and goals.
Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.” Russia, like its Soviet predecessor, has a history of conducting covert influence campaigns focused on US presidential elections that have used intelligence officers and agents and press placements to disparage candidates perceived as hostile to the Kremlin.
 Russia’s intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 US presidential election, including targets associated with both major US political parties.
 We assess with high confidence that Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and DCLeaks.com to release US victim data
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This report is a declassified version of a highly classified assessment; its conclusions are identical to those in the highly classified assessment but this version does not include the full supporting information on key elements of the influence campaign.
obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to WikiLeaks.
 Russian intelligence obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local electoral boards. DHS assesses that the types of systems Russian actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying.
 Russia’s state-run propaganda machine contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences.
We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the US presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their election processes.

www.dni.gov...

a reply to: UnendingVigilance

No, obviously not.
It's an attempt to explain why Trump is president and so very, very important to his followers.

Because I don't think the followers think at all, there's nothing rational about why they are following, it's just cultural indoctrination + feelz.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: MayRenee

If only we had Trump's tax return we would know which countries were paying him millions for his hotel branding.

You are hilarious in your sarcasm...

a reply to: harold223

Does Russia have a right to discuss political events in other nations? If not why not? Does this mean Australia has not right either to partake in global political discourse? Am I at risk of being labeled and vilified as an Aussie Agent? If all this is bad, bad stuff why is it ok for America to undertake discussions in the political affairs of other nations?

Just looking for a fair go to where the line actually is.

a reply to: ManFromEurope

-haven't seen you bring facts to any thread ive seen you in...you have to bring facts to discuss before you cry about them being treated as opinion

-you whinging about unbias is comical at best...what thread have you ever been a part of that you yourself were unbias in?

-Hilary committed obvious crimes as a person in a position of power so it's only natural people want to see her held accountable for them...plus she sure won't go away herself.

Here we can observe your usual delusions...welcome to Idiocracy!

a reply to: dfnj2015

If only we had all of the politicians taxes we could finally answer how they become millionaires over such a short time on such a low salary all while spending money hand over fist. At least Trump made his with legitimate business.

a reply to: MayRenee

Can't stop staring at your avataThose are not the droids I'm looking for.

a reply to: harold223

So you're facts dont actually say anything other than Russia does the same thing we do to any other country of importance and try to influence them to have leaders we want. No where in there does it say Trump is a Russian agent which is the premise of this thread. Furthermore at least 1 of those agencies has been disgraced during that election for doing the same to we the people...however I would bet if it was honestly looked into and we could actually see past the wall of classification the other 2 did similar...the last part being an educated guess but opinion still so I will digress.

So still waiting to see some fact based evidence Trump is an agent of Russia...

a reply to: Peeple

So everyone who voted for Trump and wanted him as president just doesn't think? Or you just pull words from your ass and you dont think? I know which one is more believable...

a reply to: Peeple

You're assuming everyone who sees this joke for what it is are Trump supporters. Most of us just follow all the news we can and try to decide from there. I'd say some of the most diehard support now is from Q followers and that whole movement is centered around everyone being good people. No one is going to "kill everyone they preceive as liberal" when its all about helping everyone see whats really going on and move in a better direction for all. Again, sounds like a fever dream from someone who wishes for what no patriot would ever want. We all just want equal justice under the law.

But yeah, Muh Russia....

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