This Banana Was Duct-Taped to a Wall. It Sold for $120,000.

originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: UpIsNowDown

That's not real art.

According to my definition (with which my elder sister, a painter and photographer, agrees) of art, that's art.

Art: the result of somebody's work/idea that has no use in real life except making (some) people think or have feelings about it.

Art to me involves the ability to be able to express something that others can resonate with - in their own way.

A banana taped to a wall is no different than a 6 month old scribbling on a piece of paper, if *this* is art.

I could put a safety pin into a pineapple and.. would I get thousands of dollars for it? I kinda hope not.

But we live in a world where people buy used underwear from ebay for hundreds if not more.. so .. maybe I'm just missing out.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: ArMaP

There's an art to making money , Maurizio Cattelan obviously has that art.

In part, that making money "art" comes from knowing the right people. That "right people" will help you become known, and from "known" to "famous" is just a leap that, again, depends more on you know than what you create.

originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: gallop
I'm going to sticky tape a prune to the wall.. that's original !

It's not, it's the same concept. Even if you can find a good explanation for the different fruit most people will consider it as a copy.

Now, if you can imagine an art piece (a painting, a photo, a sculpture, an installation, etc.) mocking this whole situation then you are creating an original piece of art and you can sell it to any idiot that finds it worth the money you ask for it.

Well, as Gortex wanted to explore the way the banana travelled through his guts, I thought the prune might be a better option.

So it was unique.

Warhol painted cans of soup, so isn't the banana just an extension of that, if you look it with abstract art eyes?

There is a theory that the ultra rich launder their money and pay for things like pedophilia through this ridiculous "art work".

How are us little guys suppose to understand the beauty of a million dollar banana taped to a wall?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: gortex

If it's the concept then don't buy it and just do it yourself.

Please don’t share logical and reasonable arguments to something so Illogical
That’s just not playing fair

In fact after considering your reply, I am about to install a $100,000 art piece in my lounge and admire the concept beauty

Inspired by your tremendous logic Occams, genius🦄

I won’t argue that it isn’t art.
But I do wonder about the person that paid 120 grand for the piece.
You spend $120,000 on it, you take it home and hang it on the wall. In a few days, the banana is black and after a few days more, you have a black banana that is starting to sag and ooze.
So you take a lesson from the performance artist and change the banana out every few days.
Congratulations, you paid a small fortune for a piece of very perishable fruit and a piece of duct tape. I guess you will need to hire someone to procure and change out the banana if you decide to take a vacation.
Would it still be art if the artist used a plastic banana?

No one capitalized on "conceptual" art like Gary Dahl. He made millions commercializing his creation into a huge 'fad" back in the 70's. For you youngsters, Dahl was the creator of the Pet Rock.

a reply to: butcherguy

Don't forget gnats and flies.

LOL.

originally posted by: gallop
Art to me involves the ability to be able to express something that others can resonate with - in their own way.

Well, it "resonated" with someone that gave 120,000 dollars for it.

A banana taped to a wall is no different than a 6 month old scribbling on a piece of paper, if *this* is art.

It's not the same thing, as the 6 month old is not doing it with that purpose. But a 6 month old scribbling could be sold as unintended art, in which is the person seeing it as art that turns it into art.

I could put a safety pin into a pineapple and.. would I get thousands of dollars for it? I kinda hope not.

You could, if you presented as a work of art and had a concept behind it, like, for example, "the efforts made today to help solve climate change are as useful as putting a safety pin into a pineapple". You would also need to know the right people to make it known.

I love going to an art museum from time to time. I don’t really get modern art. Especially the prime color type block drawings. I think, hell. I could do that. Then I realized I didn’t take the time to create anything. Then I realize I wouldn’t waste my time on what a 6 year old could draw and float it as my life’s work.

a reply to: ArMaP

You

It's not the same thing, as the 6 month old is not doing it with that purpose.

So? Celibate when a 6 month old does well? Don’t celebrate when a fully functional adult aspires to the skill level of a 6 month old. And your saying a child is not more imaginative than the average adult. Maybe you don’t value childhood.

a reply to: neutronflux

I don’t really get modern art.

Your not the only one.

I don't even call it art.

Money laundering. I once payed $200 for a deck of playing cards at a charity.

originally posted by: butcherguy
I won’t argue that it isn’t art.
But I do wonder about the person that paid 120 grand for the piece.
You spend $120,000 on it, you take it home and hang it on the wall. In a few days, the banana is black and after a few days more, you have a black banana that is starting to sag and ooze.
So you take a lesson from the performance artist and change the banana out every few days.
Congratulations, you paid a small fortune for a piece of very perishable fruit and a piece of duct tape. I guess you will need to hire someone to procure and change out the banana if you decide to take a vacation.
Would it still be art if the artist used a plastic banana?

It’s not about the piece itself, it’s about the people talking about it.

Who said a liberal arts degree was worthless?

originally posted by: neo96
This Banana Was Duct-Taped to a Wall. It Sold for $120,000.

He must have gotten the idea from Congress.

$50,000 for a hammer.

$80,000 for a toilet seat.

$120,000 for a banana.

Sure makes perfect sense.

Bingo! I've long suspected that these ridiculous prices that a fetched for these monstrous creations are somehow involved in money laundering schemes of some sort. It's the only thing that makes sense

a reply to: gortex

Five words... money laundering operation.

Money laundering at Art Basel. Is this your first time guys?

a reply to: Oleandra88

Hey, there's always money in the banana stand

I've heard all the arguments 'for' this being art and it still is some contrive shiite or a pisstake by the rich and famous.
Especially the argument that this is unique and that the reaction is part of the art performance doesn't wash with me. Foirst of all it ain't unique at all, the concept is as old as modern art. I think the last one that should have done it was Andy Warhole with the tin of beans on a pedestal.
Every other 'unique' useless display is a childish copy of this. Doesn't matter if the object[s] are different, the concept has a beard as long as my arm.
SO, not new, just another 'unique useless thing', causing the same reaction as all the other unique useless art I had the misfortune to see.
White paint on canvas, pieces of wood arranged in a circle on the floor, wow, how often can you come up with shiite like that? I tell you infinite times.

So no, it doesn't make anyone think or at least not anything deep and our reaction to this are also an old hat. So how and why is this piece hailed as art and get $120 000? That is the real point of thinking. That is actually more arty than the idiot piece itself. Either art or money laundering, as open as you can make it [also quite arty in itself].

Look, this isn't art. We have to draw the line somewhere or anyone can pose anything as art and those who wear the blinkers can always find some sort of deeper explanation for it [that is often news to the 'artist'].

Fortunately a few people call out the nakedness of the Emperor, who seems to be invincible because he wears 'art' nowadays.

This is not art.

Now duct taping a lemon to a wall?

THAT'S ART!

But a banana?

Nope.