21 killed in bloody gunfights in northern Mexico

a reply to: muzzleflash

I agree with legalizing drugs, but it won't put a stop to them, they've got many other criminal activities they partake in that they'll just increase the occurrences of. Legalizing drugs is one big step towards getting rid of them. It will hurt their pockets and force them into activities that are more risky and expose them more, but it won't put an end to them. Is one step among many which must be taken. Legalizing drugs all by it's lonesome won't put a stop to this.

originally posted by: UpIsNowDown

originally posted by: Doctor Smith

Maybe if it was a gun free zone. Or their was laws making guns illegal this wouldn't have happened. Oh. Guns are illegal in Mexico.

And guns are legal in the USA, whats the point, both are shall we say "above average 10th and 15th out of 75" for deaths by gun in the world, guess the mexicans are bad right, is that your point, im a bit stupid when it comes to understanding some statistics

My point obviously. You can make all the anti gun laws you want. They have no effect other than to make lawful citizens unarmed against criminals.

a reply to: Puppylove

also legalize prostitution and gambling in places other than casinos. Then you are talking about cartel power reduction.

a reply to: yuppa

Yeah, but that only works for the adults. Child sex trafficking would still be a thing. Then there's sex trafficking for those who want things no legal prostitute would be up for.

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: yuppa

Yeah, but that only works for the adults. Child sex trafficking would still be a thing. Then there's sex trafficking for those who want things no legal prostitute would be up for.

those people will exist no matter what though. cater to the majority not the minority. WHy? because you cant save everyone.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: underwerks


Maybe if America didn’t supply 70% of the guns in Mexico.

Only 2 out of the top 10 guns in Mexico are from the US... Go figure. The Colt 45 and Bushmaster.

That's an extremely bold statement to make without even so much as providing a link.

Here you go though, seems the facts completely contradict your claim.

Research shows that a majority of guns in Mexico can be traced to the U.S. A report from the U.S Government Accountability Office showed that 70 percent of guns seized in Mexico by Mexican authorities and submitted for tracing have a U.S. origin. This percentage remains consistent, said Bradley Engelbert, a spokesperson for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. And the Trump administration has recently taken steps to ease rules on gun exports, which enables manufacturers to sell guns in Mexico and Central America countries.

A report from the Center of American Progress found that the United States was the primary source of weapons used in crime in Mexico and Canada. Other countries in Central America can also trace a large proportion of guns seized in crimes to the United States. For example, the report found that from 2014 to 2016, 49 percent of crime guns seized in El Salvador were originally purchased in the U.S. In Honduras, 45 percent of guns recovered in crime scenes were traced to the United States as well.

pbs.org

I'd have loved to see prosecutions in the fast and furious scandal. But, I guess, what difference at this point does it make?

a reply to: yuppa

Point is, legalization by itself is not enough.

a reply to: Doctor Smith Sounds like a weekend in Chicago,so why are other countries more important then our own?The US feds have been running drugs from Mexico for years,cartels are DEA,and CIA agents,and Indian reservations here,feds a facade for rulers of the world

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Doctor Smith

Maybe if it was a gun free zone.

Maybe if America didn’t supply 70% of the guns in Mexico.

Speaking about Holder and O's Fast And Furious program?

a reply to: Doctor Smith

Gun control will save us all!

It's unfortunate that four police had to die in this shootout. Good that a lot of cartel scum are no longer here on this Earth.

originally posted by: scolai
a reply to: Doctor Smith

But they’re not terrorists. They’re criminals. They have neither political nor religious motives. They’re no more terrorists than Al Capone or Whitey Bulger. They just want to make money in a less than respectable fashion.

Awe, poor things. Just trying to make money.

a reply to: Doctor Smith

Mexico could be an awesome place with lots of tourism if they could get rid of the cartels and all of the corruption in their government and crime in the streets. People are afraid to go there.

originally posted by: AllBiz
a reply to: Doctor Smith

Mexico could be an awesome place with lots of tourism if they could get rid of the cartels and all of the corruption in their government and crime in the streets. People are afraid to go there.

Not all. But a large amount of Mexicans-Hispanics look at these cartels as folk hero's. That's part of the problem. They basically kill off any Mexican Police who are effective against them.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Doctor Smith

Maybe if it was a gun free zone.

Maybe if America didn’t supply 70% of the guns in Mexico.

Maybe we need a stronger border....

For sure we need a stronger border!
But before we need to consider possibilities for Mexicans to come on legal to US and stay here, pay taxes here etc. And after build strong wall on the border. This is the only point I agree with Trump