Rural people are bad and make bad decisions

a reply to: PhilbertDezineck

Not so fast there.

I lived, for a number of years, in a mid-sized town, a farming community for the most part. While there, I lived less than 50 yards off the main drag on that side of town. I never, not once, in the two plus years I lived there, got my street plowed. In fact, the plows made it almost, at times, impossible to get onto the main drag, at all.

Then for about 5 years, I lived on the main drag...and got plowed in on every single occassion there was any appreciable amount of snow...if they bothered to plow at all, I mean. There is nothing more annoying, in fact down right aggravating, than to spend a half hour shoveling the drive way to the street, easy with powder snow. Then the plow comes along and flings twice the amount of melting, then refrozen, because they wait 'til the middle of the night to plow...burying the driveway, and the sidewalk in several inches of nastiness that can no longer be called snow.

I'll take my chances in rural areas. Preparedness is more than half the battle. I bet it'll be safer than, say, Seattle where drivers seem to think that 4x4's are the answer to ice and snow, without the slightest knowledge of how to drive in the conditions.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

While I agree with your general sentiment, you have to understand this professor is far from the only person who feels this way. On top of that, he's responsible for teaching children/young adults. He's spreading this message to the next generation of leaders and policy makers.
I think most people would and should be alarmed to learn the extent to which extreme leftist ideologies have become the prevailing norm in Universities. I'm not talking necessarily about the students. Most people expect younger people to be idiots. It's the professors and administrators that are the issue. Career students of the frankfurt school whose main goal is to tug at the fabric of american society until there's literally nothing left.

The college's no longer teach students to be free thinkers, and the idiot professors [not all of them] have turned them into political indoctorination centers, there should be no activism in the classroom. it's like when city folks move to the country and complain about the smell from the pig farm down the road, if i got ahold of that idiot professor i'd sit on him and make him eat bug's! [I really wouldn't but i could as i'm 300 lbs of solid mass but i'd be no better then him]

a reply to: CynConcepts

Doh!

a reply to: elDooberino

Well I can't argue with that, it's certainly concerning.

a reply to: Notoneofyou

If the you-know-what ever really really, really, really, hits the fan, people in the country will eat from their gardens and help each other. People in the cities will eat each other. I rest my case.

originally posted by: openminded2011
a reply to: Notoneofyou

If the you-know-what ever really really, really, really, hits the fan, people in the country will eat from their gardens and help each other. People in the cities will eat each other. I rest my case.

Actually, people from the cities will migrate to the country looking for food.

Once the food supplies, house pets, zoo animals have all run out (as has been observed in Venezuela), hoards of starving humans will make their way to rural areas.

They won't be asking politely for handouts either..!!

The feelings of entitlement that set many city folks aside will be the staple on which they adhere and anything/anyone will be fair game to them.

Rural folks will have to band together and protect what is theirs or lose everything.

Starving hordes don't think logically and for the most part "live in the now" and not "for the future"..!!

If they are not met with resistance, they will strip the country areas bare in an attempt to fill their bellies "now", and worry about where to get more food later, completely ignoring the need to keep a stable means of production going. Once this point is reached, it's pretty much game over for a society.

a reply to: Ironclad1964

Actually, people from the cities will migrate to the country looking for food.

I'm sure they will. Would be nice if they didn't, but if they're just determined to become fertilizer, as most will be, well, I see no reason to argue with them.

They won't be asking politely for handouts either..!!

And that will be their downfall.

If someone comes to my door and tells me they're hungry and wants to do something around the place for food, they will leave with a full belly... likely with a couple grocery bags of produce to boot depending on the season and how much I have. If I see them messing around my place just looking like they want to take something from me, I shoot first and ask for ID second.

They'll never make it long enough outside their city to strip the country.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Ironclad1964

Actually, people from the cities will migrate to the country looking for food.

I'm sure they will. Would be nice if they didn't, but if they're just determined to become fertilizer, as most will be, well, I see no reason to argue with them.

They won't be asking politely for handouts either..!!

And that will be their downfall.

If someone comes to my door and tells me they're hungry and wants to do something around the place for food, they will leave with a full belly... likely with a couple grocery bags of produce to boot depending on the season and how much I have. If I see them messing around my place just looking like they want to take something from me, I shoot first and ask for ID second.

They'll never make it long enough outside their city to strip the country.

TheRedneck

Thing is, there are literally millions of people living in the big cities. When they start migrating, it won't be a few hundred here and a few hundred there..

It will be tens of tens of thousands (probably a lot more)..!!

Think "World War Z" and just replace the zombies with living, breathing hungry human beings with just one thing on their minds..

"Food"..!!

They will swarm he countryside looking for their next meal and they won't care about how they get it. All the while maintaining a "living in the NOW", mode of thinking, there won't be any forethought about preserving anything for future use or productivity. Starvation has a habit of bringing out the worst of the worst in people and lucid thinking goes right out the window.

If the S#@t truly does ever hit the fan or if these Sociology Professors ever do manage to convince enough people to switch to Socialism/Communism, this is what rural folks will be facing.

originally posted by: Ironclad1964

Thing is, there are literally millions of people living in the big cities. When they start migrating, it won't be a few hundred here and a few hundred there..

It will be tens of tens of thousands (probably a lot more)..!!

Think "World War Z" and just replace the zombies with living, breathing hungry human beings with just one thing on their minds..

"Food"..!!

They will swarm he countryside looking for their next meal and they won't care about how they get it. All the while maintaining a "living in the NOW", mode of thinking, there won't be any forethought about preserving anything for future use or productivity. Starvation has a habit of bringing out the worst of the worst in people and lucid thinking goes right out the window.

If the S#@t truly does ever hit the fan or if these Sociology Professors ever do manage to convince enough people to switch to Socialism/Communism, this is what rural folks will be facing.

Thing is, the people in those crowds will be their own worst enemy. Like the traffic jams along the "evacuation route" ahead of an approaching hurricane. And if gas stations are still open and dispensing gas... then, it isn't much of a swarm of the countryside.

Such an event will mean unprecedented human suffering as motorists get stuck in giant traffic jams and run their cars to stay cool/warm until they run out of gas. Then they will follow the main roads on foot. The lack of available gas cans, and abandoned vehicles clogging the off-ramps, will create an army of hungry, desperate people without supplies or much of anything else. There will surely be bloodshed as they try to take food from roadside businesses by force, and then they turn on each other.

It will be worst along the highways and main arteries; but the further you get away from towns, the more it will thin out as the crowds are diluted by sheer real estate. A circle with a radius of 10 miles is 315 square miles. But a circle that looks "twice as big",with a 20 mile radius, covers more than 1,250 miles---its actually 4 times as big!

After the initial looting along major roads, if the situation isn't stabilized, there'll be no food for the rest of the crowd. And the further out the crowd moves, the less food, fuel, ammo or blankets that crowd will have.

breaking into the homes of people who are fully expecting the home invasion is a bad idea, especially on an empty stomach.

a reply to: Ironclad1964

Actually, this is so far from reality, it speaks volumes.
I don’t even know where to start.

Most “people from the cities” have no idea what it takes to walk through a plowed field.
It is far from flat, easy walking.

There is a large distance between homes, when walking or even driving roads.
There are usually shortcuts in the way of paths and cuts that utv’s and atv’s utilize much more efficiently.

Do you have any idea how long it takes to walk around out here?
Vehicles can be disabled very easily.

Driveways are very long.
Deer cams, trail cams, camo blinds and tree stands are everywhere.

Most everybody is armed, several times over, and for different situations.
Yes, sidearms are handy, but most choose to go to a long gun whenever possible.

I’m honestly just throwing out random reasons that the millions of roving hoardes of “city people” stripping the countryside simply won’t happen.

Like Redneck said, they won’t make it this far.

In my travels I have had the exact opposite experience of what that article is saying.

Rural people will share their last meal with you.

Its in the cities where bad ideas always find fertile grounds and take root.

In every single country.

Cities suck up the ounce of humanity we still have left.

a reply to: Ironclad1964

Yes, they will be looking for food. They just won't know how to look for food. Heck, most slickers can't find their way home without a GPS. As others have said, they'll be sticking to the main roads, and most of them will be in a vehicle, at least until the gas runs out, and will follow the main routes as much as they can.

You want to see the chaos you describe? Check out truck stops... they are located along the major routes, usually just outside the cities, and sell food ready to eat. Probably the most dangerous place to be.

Also, there is one huge difference between the zombies of legend and these zombies: zombies of legend do not attack each other. These will. That will take care of as much as 50% of the population right there before they ever get off the main roads. Now add in exhaustion and there's another 20% in my estimation.

The 30% or less that are left will not form a roving band and all attack at once. As you say, they will be living in the now, and the now is that they now fear each other. They'll spread out, working their way from major routes to side routes. Depending on the season, they'll either thin themselves out due to freezing or heat stroke. Remember they'll already be weakened by malnutrition and probably injury. They'll try to play sneak thief... it'll work a little while for some, but not for long. If they decide to group together, they'll simply get thinned out along the way each time. If they go it alone, it'll be even easier to pick them off.

There will be a few who survive this far, the toughest and meanest of the bunch. They're dangerous, yes, but they also have one major issue: they know they're dangerous and will be expecting others to run from them. The other slickers will, of course, but the folk in the country will not. Probably some will hole up in abandoned or appropriated homes. That will be where the most deaths in the country come from, but still we're talking about one Billy-Bob-Bad-A used to intimidating others against a whole community of tough-as-nails farmers who can drop a deer at 100 yards.

Short term danger, long term inconvenience.

In the end, it'll be nothing more than a depopulation of the cities, which is likely another of this professor's cockamamie dreams. A few will survive, mostly the ones who have the good sense to hide and are tough enough to endure the hunger. Some of the upper class will have evacuated and will return to make more off the destruction. And humanity will again begin to rebuild from the reset, this time with the country in charge at first.

Just like every other reset. The country will survive.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Hobos in the dirty 30s. They didn't run the country side. The cops ran them.

The haves will stay home. The rest will be an army of homelessness and desperation.

a reply to: Graysen

The hobos in the 30s were tough enough, hard enough, and smart enough to survive. You won't see many in the cities today with those attributes leaving. They'll be the ones to stay because they can. They can live off the corpse of society, whereas most cannot. There will likely be a few, but I would actually place that number below 1%.

The haves in the cities are goners unless they evacuate at the first sign of trouble. Long before those roving hoards take to the highways and byways, they will, literally, eat the rich among them. That's already a familiar cry of the "enlightened." Those who are smart already have an escape plan, called an "impromptu vacation" to somewhere else, likely overseas, at the first sign of serious trouble (when planes will still be flying).

TheRedneck

No wonder us rural people have so much fun, we are bad asses. What a complement from a sardine that lives in a city, programmed to believe a sardine can is the best place to live. I bet they feel right at home on a cruise ship, packed with people who have food poisoning from the food there.

That is as bad as many of the old church goers calling country people heathens, only civilized people live in cities I guess. I feel sorry for many of the people living in the cities, they haven't got a clue what living out in nature is all about.

The only really bad decisions I make is deciding to go drive in a big city.

originally posted by: Oaktree
a reply to: Ironclad1964

Actually, this is so far from reality, it speaks volumes.
I don’t even know where to start.

Most “people from the cities” have no idea what it takes to walk through a plowed field.
It is far from flat, easy walking.

There is a large distance between homes, when walking or even driving roads.
There are usually shortcuts in the way of paths and cuts that utv’s and atv’s utilize much more efficiently.

Do you have any idea how long it takes to walk around out here?
Vehicles can be disabled very easily.

Driveways are very long.
Deer cams, trail cams, camo blinds and tree stands are everywhere.

Most everybody is armed, several times over, and for different situations.
Yes, sidearms are handy, but most choose to go to a long gun whenever possible.

I’m honestly just throwing out random reasons that the millions of roving hoardes of “city people” stripping the countryside simply won’t happen.

Like Redneck said, they won’t make it this far.

It isn't that far removed from the truth at all..

Venezuela is the most recent example. First they ate their family pets, then they broke into zoos an animal shelters, then they migrated to the country and raided farms.

One advantage for folks in the US is that they still have the right to bear arms, while the land owners in Venezuela literally had to just stand by and watch large crowds kill their livestock and destroy their crops.

But the Population of US cities is far greater then Venezuela also, so the number of people looking for food will be much greater. You will need a F@#kton of ammo (which is equivalent to around 1000 S@#tloads)..

those citified pajama bois won't come out this far, because we don't have a four-bucks. or wi fis.

It's funny reading the article when I live in a city area that is seeing huge, and continuous hikes in rent due to the number of people moving in.

If more people live in rural areas, the city gets less congested. Rent stays affordable. Traffic gets lighter so you don't have to spend 2 hours of unpaid time just getting to and from work.


But about the "electoral college", one thing I notice in the city is there are also a lot more welfare recipients everywhere. People who nurse a health problem and show it off proudly, so you can see they have a good excuse to draw on public assistance. Not trying to be critical, since many of them probably need it. But I do feel like the cities concentrate dependency in one place.

The electoral college slightly favors people who are contributing to the public treasury, rather than drawing on it.

I think maybe they deserve the additional say.

The Hatch act prohibits people from conducting political activity while they are on the job working for the government.

Technically, a welfare recipient is a government employee. Just one who is assigned no tasks to perform.

originally posted by: Oaktree
a reply to: Ironclad1964

Actually, this is so far from reality, it speaks volumes.
I don’t even know where to start.

Most “people from the cities” have no idea what it takes to walk through a plowed field.
It is far from flat, easy walking.

There is a large distance between homes, when walking or even driving roads.
There are usually shortcuts in the way of paths and cuts that utv’s and atv’s utilize much more efficiently.

Do you have any idea how long it takes to walk around out here?
Vehicles can be disabled very easily.

Driveways are very long.
Deer cams, trail cams, camo blinds and tree stands are everywhere.

Most everybody is armed, several times over, and for different situations.
Yes, sidearms are handy, but most choose to go to a long gun whenever possible.

I’m honestly just throwing out random reasons that the millions of roving hoardes of “city people” stripping the countryside simply won’t happen.

Like Redneck said, they won’t make it this far.

Hullarious, based on this logic how has humankind survived whilst falling over ourselves.?