Trump Amb. to EU Sondland reverses himself on Ukraine quid pro quo

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Extorris

At the end of the day, if Trump's political rivals didn't have so many skeletons, illegal skeletons, in their closet, there'd be no grounds for him to turn to foreign government investigations of them to "aid his campaign."

She shouldn't have worn that short skirt if she didn't want to get gang raped?

Conspiratorial suspicion does not excuse Criminal Abuse of Power by a sitting US President.

After an exhaustive propaganda campaign and extortion scheme there is still no evidence or charges by Trump's DOJ regarding Biden.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Extorris

This is a great OP. Thanks for posting it. Can you imagine what the Republican's response would be if a Democrat did this:

Except for the fact that this entire farce was precipitated by a Democrat POTUS pegging support of the Ukraine against Russia to the Ukraine dropping an investigation into that POPTUS' Democrat vice president's son and transferring all data on the investigation to the United States where it was quickly retired. This is literally assailing a man who was trying to expose an actual crime committed by his predecessor.

Sondland also testified that Trump and Giuliani’s positions “kept getting more insidious,” evolving from a general interest in fighting corruption, to an interest in Burisma, and finally to an investigation of the Bidens—and that Sondland “assumed” such an investigation, as pursued by Giuliani with Trump’s support, would be illegal.

All that reads to me is that Trump was fighting corruption, gained an interest in Burisma when seeing board members without the proper qualifications that also happen to be the children of powerful US politicians. Not his fault one of those politicians happens to be Quid Pro Joe. The president has every right to look into the corruption and was elected to do so. That's why he has "assumed" it's illegal because he knows it's not.

Strangly enough, Amb. to EU Sondland just received a $400,000 deposit into his bank account from the Clinton Foundation.

originally posted by: Extorris
She shouldn't have worn that short skirt if she didn't want to get gang raped?

Congratu-freaking-lations, you just compared the President of the United States doing something which there's not even a consensus on the legality of to begin with to a gang rape. You seem a bit... lacking in perspective, perhaps your judgement on these political topics is clouded by blind, irrational hate? It's almost like a syndrome or something, innit?

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
Strangly enough, Amb. to EU Sondland just received a $400,000 deposit into his bank account from the Clinton Foundation.

Wow! Please source that incredibly inconvenient to the OP's argument news bit. I relish the idea of that smoking gun being tossed around the room.

originally posted by: Extorris

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Extorris

At the end of the day, if Trump's political rivals didn't have so many skeletons, illegal skeletons, in their closet, there'd be no grounds for him to turn to foreign government investigations of them to "aid his campaign."

She shouldn't have worn that short skirt if she didn't want to get gang raped?

Conspiratorial suspicion does not excuse Criminal Abuse of Power by a sitting US President.

Our right wing friends do not agree with you. They always put party before the rule-of-law and Constitution.

originally posted by: Extorris
After an exhaustive propaganda campaign and extortion scheme there is still no evidence or charges by Trump's DOJ regarding Biden.

I predict for the next 30 years whoever is running as a Democrat will be the target of never ending mud-slinging.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Extorris

This is a great OP. Thanks for posting it. Can you imagine what the Republican's response would be if a Democrat did this:

Except for the fact that this entire farce was precipitated by a Democrat POTUS pegging support of the Ukraine against Russia to the Ukraine dropping an investigation into that POPTUS' Democrat vice president's son and transferring all data on the investigation to the United States where it was quickly retired. This is literally assailing a man who was trying to expose an actual crime committed by his predecessor.

And all of this literally twaddle. There is absolutely no proof for it in any way whatsoever.

Nobody is getting removed from office based off of memories. If that was the Case Bill Clinton would have been removed. A lot of women had memories. Nothing happened. Need something like a Watergate tape which they thought they had but they don't. If they did they would not need all these "memories".

a reply to: Extorris

Amazing considering I don't watch FOX News... That said, I had hoped we were beyond the childish logical fallacies of "You disagree with me so you have pea brain, uneducated swine" horsecrap. Guess I overcredited someone. My bad, won't make that mistake a second time.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

I thought he was a raging anti-Semite on top of it all.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
Strangly enough, Amb. to EU Sondland just received a $400,000 deposit into his bank account from the Clinton Foundation.

Wow! Please source that incredibly inconvenient to the OP's argument news bit. I relish the idea of that smoking gun being tossed around the room.

A search on Google has established diddly/squat on this claim. I suspect malarkey.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Keep telling yourself that because you have to believe it's "twaddle" or else your narrative crumbles like last week's cake. We understand.

a reply to: xuenchen

Just more of business as usual across all presidential Administrations.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

I thought he was a raging anti-Semite on top of it all.

He has been accused of that, yes. Let's just say that the cheese long since slid off his mental cracker.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Keep telling yourself that because you have to believe it's "twaddle" or else your narrative crumbles like last week's cake. We understand.

Let's agree to disagree, shall we?

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

You're a bit late to that ship, it sailed nearly 8 years ago and isn't scheduled to return to this port.