About time as Pelosi will hold a vote this week on impeachment

a reply to: xuenchen

Yep. That's our Nancy.

Just pass it so we can find out what's in it.

Jesus Christ.

It's a little late. She's more likely to end up impeached or thrown in prison than Trump. After a Criminal investigation of the Ukraine scam has already started. LOL But why stop now. LOL.

originally posted by: Doctor Smith
It's a little late. She's more likely to end up impeached or thrown in prison than Trump. After a Criminal investigation of the Ukraine scam has already started. LOL But why stop now. LOL.

Members of Congress cannot be impeached.

ETA: There's no "criminal investigation" of whatever the "Ukraine scam" is supposed to be.

a reply to: 727Sky

*shrugs*

Cool.

Vote. Go for it.

Been asking for this for a while now.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: 727Sky

*shrugs*

Cool.

Vote. Go for it.

Been asking for this for a while now.

Why are y'all in such a rush?

Why wouldn't you want the Democrats to waste as much time as possible on this if it is a "nothing burger" as so many ardent Trump supporters keep claiming?

Cool, the President will get to face his accusers, and his team can start throwing out those subpoenas like halloween candy to everyone involved with this attempted Coupe

Christmas is shaping up to be full of gifts!

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Trump is not entitled to launch investigations on Ukranian soil.

That's not what UKTruth said. Trump asked the Ukraine to investigate the prior crimes, not for permission for the US to investigate the former Ukraine government officials.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: 727Sky

*shrugs*

Cool.

Vote. Go for it.

Been asking for this for a while now.

Why are y'all in such a rush?

Why wouldn't you want the Democrats to waste as much time as possible on this if it is a "nothing burger" as so many ardent Trump supporters keep claiming?

Ummm, okay.

Don't vote for impeachment.

*shrugs again*

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: 727Sky

*shrugs*

Cool.

Vote. Go for it.

Been asking for this for a while now.

Why are y'all in such a rush?

Why wouldn't you want the Democrats to waste as much time as possible on this if it is a "nothing burger" as so many ardent Trump supporters keep claiming?

Ummm, okay.

Don't vote for impeachment.

*shrugs again*

But you just said this was what you'd been waiting for?

Are you really that apathetic? That doesn't seem like you.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: Doctor Smith
It's a little late. She's more likely to end up impeached or thrown in prison than Trump. After a Criminal investigation of the Ukraine scam has already started. LOL But why stop now. LOL.

Members of Congress cannot be impeached.

ETA: There's no "criminal investigation" of whatever the "Ukraine scam" is supposed to be.

So are you seriously going on record as saying that members of Congress cannot be impeached?

Just wondering...

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Ah, you stealth edited.

What crime is Hunter Biden suspected of in the United States?

Also, as far as the Mueller investigation, the crimes were COMMITTED in the US, therefore, the US has jurisdiction.

Allegedly, Hunter's possible crimes took place in Ukraine, and the US has ZERO jurisdiction there.

So, try again. Why would the President ask for help with an American committing crimes in the Ukraine?

In the Russia investigation foreign actors were indicted for weilding influence, illegally, in the US.

Your question plays exactly to my point. The real debate to have, legitmately, is what grounds were there to initiate a review of the Biden's activity. IMO, Hunter Biden, whilst the beneficiary here, is not the main concern. The concern is whether Joe Biden directed foreign policy to enrich and protect his son. If that were the case , it is illegal under US law - Federal Bribery Statute.

originally posted by: HalWesten

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Trump is not entitled to launch investigations on Ukranian soil.

That's not what UKTruth said. Trump asked the Ukraine to investigate the prior crimes, not for permission for the US to investigate the former Ukraine government officials.

That's kicking the can down the road, (and not what UK said) but sure, so why is the President of the US asking a foreign power to investigate crimes in their country?

What is the reason, the motivation, what would be driving the President to do so?

Forget that the Ukraine ALREADY investigated Biden and found no crimes for the moment.

Why was Trump willing to bet the farm on a server that doesn't apparently exist and a criminal investigation in another country?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: 727Sky

*shrugs*

Cool.

Vote. Go for it.

Been asking for this for a while now.

Why are y'all in such a rush?

Why wouldn't you want the Democrats to waste as much time as possible on this if it is a "nothing burger" as so many ardent Trump supporters keep claiming?

Ummm, okay.

Don't vote for impeachment.

*shrugs again*

But you just said this was what you'd been waiting for?

Are you really that apathetic? That doesn't seem like you.

Doesn't matter.

Vote for impeachment, don't vote for impeachment.

What's the crime?

Has anyone figured one out that'll work yet?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: HalWesten

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Trump is not entitled to launch investigations on Ukranian soil.

That's not what UKTruth said. Trump asked the Ukraine to investigate the prior crimes, not for permission for the US to investigate the former Ukraine government officials.

That's kicking the can down the road, (and not what UK said) but sure, so why is the President of the US asking a foreign power to investigate crimes in their country?

What is the reason, the motivation, what would be driving the President to do so?

Forget that the Ukraine ALREADY investigated Biden and found no crimes for the moment.

Why was Trump willing to bet the farm on a server that doesn't apparently exist and a criminal investigation in another country?

Because Joe Biden was potentially using his office to enrich his son.
That has nothing to do with Ukrainian juristiction.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Ah, you stealth edited.

What crime is Hunter Biden suspected of in the United States?

Also, as far as the Mueller investigation, the crimes were COMMITTED in the US, therefore, the US has jurisdiction.

Allegedly, Hunter's possible crimes took place in Ukraine, and the US has ZERO jurisdiction there.

So, try again. Why would the President ask for help with an American committing crimes in the Ukraine?

In the Russia investigation foreign actors were indicted for weilding influence, illegally, in the US.

Your question plays exactly to my point. The real debate to have, legitmately, is what grounds were there to initiate a review of the Biden's activity. IMO, Hunter Biden, whilst the beneficiary here, is not the main concern. The concern is whether Joe Biden directed foreign policy to enrich and protect his son. If that were the case , it is illegal under US law - Federal Bribery Statute.

Yes, Russians committed crimes on US soil as did Manafort et. al. US soil, US jurisdiction.

Why aside from his political party, would anyone believe that Joe Biden did that? The deal regarding Shokin that so much as been made about ... the US and EU were all lobbying Ukraine for his removal, that can't be dropped at BIden's doorstep.

And if Biden committed these crimes (what crimes by the way) why would Trump be investigating them in Ukraine?

If Biden committed the crimes here, the evidence is here, right?

You see, your theory just doesn't stand up. However, if we believe that Trump asked the President of Ukraine to reopen some past investigation SOLEY because the name invovled was Biden ... that makes it fairly obvious that the motivation is politically based.

Again, what crimes did Joe Biden commit in the US. Is Joe Biden under investigation in the US? Or not.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: HalWesten

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Trump is not entitled to launch investigations on Ukranian soil.

That's not what UKTruth said. Trump asked the Ukraine to investigate the prior crimes, not for permission for the US to investigate the former Ukraine government officials.

That's kicking the can down the road, (and not what UK said) but sure, so why is the President of the US asking a foreign power to investigate crimes in their country?

What is the reason, the motivation, what would be driving the President to do so?

Forget that the Ukraine ALREADY investigated Biden and found no crimes for the moment.

Why was Trump willing to bet the farm on a server that doesn't apparently exist and a criminal investigation in another country?

Because Joe Biden was potentially using his office to enrich his son.
That has nothing to do with Ukrainian juristiction.

Then why did Trump need the Ukraine to help find something in the Ukraine?

Biden committed the crimes here? allgedly?

The evidence then is here, in Biden's emails, papers, phone calls, etc.

Not in Ukraine.

The story doesn't hold even a drop of water to anyone that's not a Trumpian.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: HalWesten

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Trump is not entitled to launch investigations on Ukranian soil.

That's not what UKTruth said. Trump asked the Ukraine to investigate the prior crimes, not for permission for the US to investigate the former Ukraine government officials.

That's kicking the can down the road, (and not what UK said) but sure, so why is the President of the US asking a foreign power to investigate crimes in their country?

What is the reason, the motivation, what would be driving the President to do so?

Forget that the Ukraine ALREADY investigated Biden and found no crimes for the moment.

Why was Trump willing to bet the farm on a server that doesn't apparently exist and a criminal investigation in another country?

Because Joe Biden was potentially using his office to enrich his son.
That has nothing to do with Ukrainian juristiction.

Then why did Trump need the Ukraine to help find something in the Ukraine?

Biden committed the crimes here? allgedly?

The evidence then is here, in Biden's emails, papers, phone calls, etc.

Not in Ukraine.

The story doesn't hold even a drop of water to anyone that's not a Trumpian.

No, he actually spent time in Ukraine and also communicated with the Ukrainian govt. extensively.
Their records could prove invaluable to get to the bottom of what was going on.

You know what would be totally amazing? If the American public took up the same level of concern with how their country was being run as they do with all this political drama. Professional wrestling has nothing on this show.

With all the investigating going on in DC right now, when are our elected officials finding time to, ya' know, run the country?

a reply to: Gryphon66

So, let me ask a question. If you are a US citizen, you travel to a country that allows you to do something, that something being illegal in the United States. Do you not think you can be prosecuted as a US citizen, by the US government, for that action?

I just want to make sure I'm reading you correctly.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: HalWesten

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: UKTruth

Trump is not entitled to launch investigations on Ukranian soil.

That's not what UKTruth said. Trump asked the Ukraine to investigate the prior crimes, not for permission for the US to investigate the former Ukraine government officials.

That's kicking the can down the road, (and not what UK said) but sure, so why is the President of the US asking a foreign power to investigate crimes in their country?

What is the reason, the motivation, what would be driving the President to do so?

Forget that the Ukraine ALREADY investigated Biden and found no crimes for the moment.

Why was Trump willing to bet the farm on a server that doesn't apparently exist and a criminal investigation in another country?

Because Joe Biden was potentially using his office to enrich his son.
That has nothing to do with Ukrainian juristiction.

Lets not forget that apparently Joe got some of that money too actualy