Why are women and men attracted to psychopaths?

I think alot of people mistake psychopathic behavior with confidence. People like confident people. They wish they were confident. It makes the world seem less scary and less chaotic.


Sadly they usually get burned by it, and ever more sad they almost never learn from following or admiring psychopaths. If one fails them, or rejects them, they will find another to admire.

a reply to: neoholographic

I'm like you, I've always find the human mind fascinating. I'll admit while I don't' think I'm a full blown Psychopath(yes the name isn't entirely in jest) I do believe I have some of the tendencies, such as an emotional detachment from a lot of things people find emotional, and being the charming attractive guy. My wife like the OP Doctors wife always finds it funny when we're at parties. I get the "Oh there he goes again" whenever a woman appears to start getting infatuated with me. I TRY to be super self aware, so I TRY to not manipulate people, but honestly it's super easy sometimes and I often find myself doing it without even trying.



ETA: It all comes down to Confidence.... I'm an extremely confident individual, I know who I am and have very little, if any, insecurities. People love confidence. Just be Confident and the world is yours.

PLEASE NOTE: Fake Confidence will be spotted, like a poster before, you have to believe it yourself. I'm a confident guy and it's not fake, it's real, I'm fully aware how amazing I am.

PRO TIP: You are all amazing too, you just have to realize it.

a reply to: neoholographic

You may be reading a bit too much into this fellows psyche......he is what we call, a Bullsh** artist.

He is obviously a sex manic, and enjoys playing with and collecting women as his toys.

Unfortunately, he has "The Look" that a lot of women love....

Even though he is as old as I, he has the hair of an 18 year old still (unlike me).

He has that baby face look that girls love, he has twinkling eyes that girls love......he is the "Type" that girls want to mother, and look after.
He certainly doesn't come across as an Alpha male bad boy....quite the opposite, he has the man child look, you know the Peter Pan Davey Jones, look.

Sadly women seem to go gooey for this type of dude, with parted in the middle hair, innocent look like he is lost.

I knew a guy like this, not particularly attractive to the eyes of blokes, but girls would go ga ga over him, he had the same part in middle straight hair, and what he termed "Puppy Dog" eyes........women just fell for it.

Unfortunately, some guys have just got it.....the rest of us have to work doubly hard just to get a look in.

Even us Alpha Males.......

originally posted by: Homefree
I tend to like the crazies. They are more fun.
Perfectly sane people are often boring.

Until they kill your mother because she disapproves of her, and cons the world into thinking you did it, so she can forever keep you trapped in a cage that she can frequently visit, knowing that you will forever be hers....

Oo

a reply to: PsychoEmperor

lol

Someone told me recently that I was full of myself... I thought "Thank god for that. I'd hate to be full of someone else."

a reply to: neoholographic

Hi Neo.
Thanks for this thread, and enjoyed the responses, so far, as well.

Was totally ignorant of what makes-up these sociopaths, for many years.
But after having a horrific boss: these types of profiles became easier to see.

Some folks won't like this: but think that there are sociopathic qualities to almost all people whom seek-out management positions, and all friggin' politicians, as well.

Basically: it's the one whom is always thinking: "me first".
Plenty of folks on ATS think that that is an admirable quality.
That is a survival instinct of an animal, not a human-being.

The one that goes deep into the secondary lane, then cuts-in the line, leaving all of the 'suckers' behind.
Sat and watched a busy 3-stop intersection today, for a bit: some just are always seeking to slink through the intersection before their turn, just by taking an agressive stance, moving-up, etc...

Some respect these traits as 'bold', but they are chaos to family, and society.

Withholding sex, or affection, from a partner, to get what you want ?
Controlling, manipulating, anything goes, "As long as I get, what I want !!! "

(Don't 'know' these things. They are merely opinion/belief/temporary ideas/observations/thoughts/concepts).

From my experience Nutty women are best in bed!

Hervey Clekley did some great work on the subject and published his book in 1941: The Mask of Sanity
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www.psychologytoday.com...
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Psychopathy and sociopathy are terms with an intertwined clinical history, and they are now largely used interchangeably. The DSM excludes both, in favor of antisocial personality disorder.

The characteristics I had the chance to experience first hand:
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--Superficial charm and good intelligence
--Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
--Absence of nervousness or neurotic manifestations
--Unreliability
--Untruthfulness and insincerity
--Lack of remorse and shame
--Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
--Pathologic egocentricity and incapacity for love
--General poverty in major affective reactions

The lack of empathy and remorse for the grief they cause is remarkable.
The person I became acquainted with is now in his late 40's, above average in intelligence, always has a new scam brewing and has never had an honest job in his life. He was a pathological liar and quite accomplished at it. When caught in his untruthfulness he always had an excuse for it. As described by one author: they size-up everyone they meet as either a potential victim or a possible threat. They have no friends, simply fellow abusers they associate with as long as it is beneficial to them.
They definitely exist and cause all manner of harm to anyone they can take advantage of. They use people and throw them away when they find them no longer of benefit to themselves. They are disarmingly charming and exude confidence. But it is a mask hiding much darker things.

originally posted by: sooth
Not saying they should be going for the maladjusted incel types instead. Obviously, those guys have their own unique set of issues. They are, however, a lot less of an immediate threat to women than the wolf in sheep's clothes standing right next to them.

Finally. Vindication.

People are attracted to other people who have enthusiasm and strength, who stand out from the crowd, who are are articulate and able to get people organized and to do things, people who know how to accumulate resources ($$$), and so on.

It's not a mystery. Humans are natural eugenicists. We instinctively try to select people for mates who are like us only better than us so that our offspring will be better and stronger and smarter than we are. It doesn't matter if sometimes the psychopaths sometimes run afoul of the law. Haven't we always been taught that a single person can change everything, and that the majority is not always right? Besides, that just makes them stick out from the rest of the crowd more.

Psychopaths have the stuff. In a society of sheep, they're the wolves.

Why are women and men attracted to psychopaths?

Crazee is as Crazee does.

Keep your friends close, an your enemies closer.

For men, all it takes is a pretty face, while woman should make men work for it, and not believe everything.


Woman may be able to fake orgasms, but some men have faked entire marriages, famalies or two...simultaneously.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: neoholographic

Because we consistently deliver the goods.

You were a Marine too?

650 women just couldn't be wrong

but I was only a 50 cent piece.

I wrote on a post only yesterday informing the posters that virtually all successful business people and multi rich people are psychopaths and I was lambasted for the fact.
Without really going into the psychological technicalities it boils down to humans ARE still only one step from cave men. Women "go" for the strongest, successful males. Not for their offspring but for the selfish reason of their own safety and protection. Even though the male might be aggressive to the female it only reinforces her thoughts of power.
But more than this, there has not been any in depth (some investigated the perimeter) into human pheromones which people don't think exists. This is not psychological but chemical.
Because of that they have forgot or better still ignore the smells. but the subconscious brain doesn't.
A couple of examples:- it was found that in an environment where a lot of women working together in close proximity, after a number of months the women start to ovulate at the same time. Other creatures notice this :- if you take an ovulating woman any where near a stallion it can be very, very dangerous as the horse recognises the smell. That's pheromones working.

why?" demons in the sack " would be right up there.

So, you blame the victims ? ?
Psychopaths are psychopaths because they have
talent in conning people.
Do not re-victimize the conned victims; that is a disservice.

Confidence can be used a tool to draw in and target those
that are looking for guidance or a 'leader',
targetting the weak, and empaths who want to
please or have a need to be 'accepted'.
Intimidating authority is often used as a tool too, to
manipulate victims, as in 'lord of the flies' scenario;
victims becoming part of the group. Stockhome-syndrom ?



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Ah! Your all wrong. This whole psychopath thing is just misnomer.

There no different from the 99.99% of people out there. The leader of INXS or whatever is called, is what I like to call a retard. Even Charles Manson, ever hear what the guy was spewing even while he was famous? Nothing new he was saying, its just that his click was even more brain dead and likely never read a book in there life, so everything he was saying was new and profound to "them"

Its just that there are plenty of other morons out there who are like him, only not so bright. Like Alison Mack, clearly another not smart person, yet shes female, and so people are going to be looking at her as that. Its all basically biology and like I said earlier, like attracts like, even through space and time, birds of a feather will flock together.

So you see. There are no victims out there. Its all just a bunch of people playing whatever games get them off.

As for the rest? Its all obvious. But for the majority its just basically a the Dunning Kruger effect backwards, that is, they believe everything they are told. And if somebody acts like they know it all, well. # ask any of them, grab Charlie Manson or the leader of INXS or anybody really, and ask them a set of questions, and in 5 minutes it boils down into a thing withing a thing about a thing.

Its also how the capitalistic model or even socialistic was based on. Its basically the Dunning Crugger effect only in reverse. Its also how CEOs or others are chosen, there not chosen for there ability to think outside the box or invent new ways, the box and ways were invented in the 19th century with the robber barons during the industrial revolution, and long before that as well.

So they are there simply because they wholehardely cant even grasp or are capable to think outside the boxes they were tought to follow in the fancy schools they went to.

And so the peons will marvel at them, because there so confident. When really thats there job, also not to be asked to many questions because it will devolve into a thing within a thing.

Its why confidence works, on women. Simply because there lazy, or don't know any better, or biology 101, they wait around for a mate to show up, its how it was done in tribal times or in the times of villages and city states. In most cases its a first come first serve type of deal, simply because for hundreds of thousands of years or even millions, they were never the hunters, or gatherers, they have no idea or clue what to even look for, except what the TV and talking heads say.

Its an alien concept for most of them. So when somebody says some far out things and every other idiot around them agrees, they have click, and it grows from there, and well theres your psychopath. Its a fad, like hipsters were a fad. Everybody trying to be different they all end up being exactly the same.

Society is merely a bunch of social conditions, codified into law and habits, social constructs really. In the end like I said, there soul mates. Also as something I was told when I was 5 years old.

Confidence is merely that thing which people feel, before they fully and truly understand the situation.

And as long as the situation never rears its ugly head, they can be free to believe that into perpetuity. But in real world, a few years at most it seems. Like the blind leading the blind, they tend to both fall in a ditch. And so these things have a short shelf life indeed.

Its all just a game, a social game, has no meaning beyond the tangos people dance to and want to see. So while people give it fancy names and decked out symbology glamorize it and say its subhuman, or above average human.

Nah!

Its all just stupid # to call what is ultimately a hairless monkey just acting its part. Thats all it is. Not that different then from the entertainment business.

Oh ya, and if you have not heard of the Dunning Kruger effect, here it is. Well not much else to say on it, because there is not much else to it.

originally posted by: GreenGunther
We all have a little psychopath inside of us, obviously some more than others.
I’m well acquainted with my psychopathic side, if you tell me that you’re completely normal I’d say you’re a raging egomaniac or don’t know the meaning of introspection.

I have a conscience, I care about others, I don’t trampel on people and I’ve spent most of my life helping them..
But some days I still daydream about killing everyone in the bloodiest way possible.

If you don’t you’re either crazy or you live way out in the country and don’t interact much with people.

No, I do not daydream about killing people. That, simply put, is not normal.

originally posted by: tayton
From my experience Nutty women are best in bed!

You mean you have found and slept with a sane woman, must be like finding a unicorn and sleeping with it.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Ya all these threads should be moved to the relationship section. And every other sex cult that comes up down the line, INXS or whatever its called or Charley Manson groups and there groovy hippy ways. Though I am surprised that INXS was started by a man, usually the sex cults there started by women, or at the least the women egg the men on to start a cult.

Is likely not to be the last one, were it was mistaken for anything but that. Just things people do, should be up there with the chain and whips and leather people, and all the other ones, likely in the relationship section.

Philosophy and metaphysics it is not.

Not by a long shot.