Why are women and men attracted to psychopaths?

This is an interesting topic because it's true and there's no real explanation as to why. Psychopaths are highly functional members of society. They're found as leaders in Religion, on Wall Street and in Politics especially. These are positions where you can manipulate groups of people. I know a guy who was diagnosed Psychopath. He lived in the same apartment building years ago and he used to run through females like water. I was in a committed relationship and he used to say he couldn't do it. I remember the Police were called because one of the women he had tried to stab him. I'm a Certified Hypnotherapist and NLP Specialist and the workings of the mind are always fascinating. I don't practice Hypnotherapy but I went through a Certification Course strictly out of curiosity. Here's a recent article:

“I’ll be surrounded by young women,” the neuroscientist tells The Post. Once he’s got their attention, he’ll regale them with stories of his “interesting life” and dole out compliments “sparingly.” “My wife will say, ‘There you go again, you know you got ’em . . . Playing this game where they all fall in love with you.'”

Fallon’s je ne sais quoi isn’t about his looks: The 72-year-old academic isn’t exactly Brad Pitt.

“People are enraptured,” says Fallon, who was diagnosed with the disorder after recognizing his own psychopathic traits during a research project. “Since I was very young, I have always been able to [manipulate people], just to play with them.” He’s happily married, but likes the thrill of the chase. “It’s about winning the game.”

Psychopathy doesn’t sound like the stuff of Prince Charmings. According to the American Psychological Association, the antisocial personality disorder is characterized by “exploitation of others, deceitfulness, impulsivity, aggressiveness . . . [and] accompanied by lack of guilt, remorse and empathy.”

Then again, women love a bad boy — and new science out of Brock University in Canada confirms that women are more attracted to men who display psychopathic traits.

“Psychopathic men are really good at pretending to display what women are attracted to,” says Kristopher Brazil, one of two researchers who led the study, which was published last month in the medical journal Evolutionary Psychological Science. “They’re really good at putting on this mask, and making themselves look attractive . . . You exude a larger-than-life presence, and give off an impression of greatness.”

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I remember when I was younger, a friend was telling me about this guy that had all of this knowledge and she said I needed to hear him. I went to a house gathering with her and as soon as he started talking, my BS meter went up but people in the room were in awe of him. He came to me after the meeting and I told him to save the speech because I'm not interested. The girl said I was being rude and I had to snap her out of it.

I've always wondered why I can easily spot nonsense but some people become so enamored that they lose all ability to reason. I can't imagine falling for a Jim Jones, Manson or Koresh.

I was a fan of Smallville so I follow the Allison Mack situation and NXIVM. The guy looks like a dumpy Professor but he had these women doing some crazy things like branding themselves and agreeing to sign over their life and all of their belongings to him. They called him Vanguard and he convinced these women he had one of the highest IQ's in the world so they treated him like some sort of god.

Here's a video of Mack talking to her Vanguard and around 2:18 she just starts crying because she says what he's saying is so beautiful but it's pure BS. When you learn about his background though, you learn he studied hypnosis and NLP and at a young age he was able to manipulate women. They said he lost his virginity at 13 and his Parents would be surprised because he would have 10 girls calling the house and he was telling them all the same thing. Classic Psychopath.



He knew that he was a Psychopath.

Accused sex cult leader Keith Raniere had no problem with being called a “psychopath,” a former member testified Wednesday as jurors in his trafficking and conspiracy case got their first look at X-rated photos that club captains used as collateral.

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Here's a text message Raniere sent:

“I think it would be good for you to own a f—toy slave for me, that you could groom, and use as a tool, to pleasure me…” Raniere, the leader of the organization Nxivm, wrote to an unnamed woman on Oct. 1, 2015.

Before he was arrestedin Mexico, these women were giving him a group re-commitment blowjob.

Daniela Padilla contacted Lauren about a proposed re-commitment ceremony for DOS, which was to take place with most of the first line slaves, except Mariana and Camilla. The commitment ceremony was to involve a group orgy which was watered down to a group blowjob for Keith.

Keith told her this group blowjob was not something he asked for and Daniela took responsibility for this idea. Lauren didn’t believe that. But Lauren decided to go through with the [blow job] re-commitment ceremony.

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This is really an amazing story from the standpoint of the mind and manipulation. The guys a monster but like I said, I've always wondered how people can fall so hard for obvious BS. It's a mystery. Koresh was telling his followers that it was his duty to sleep with their wives and the men had to become celibate. How could anyone listen to such nonsense?

Do you know any Psychopaths? Has anyone fell under the spell of a Psychopath?

a reply to: neoholographic
Ah no mystery there.

Marlin Manson and Alison Mak's boyfried are about as interesting as a brick on a sidewalk, but the people listening to them are just hearing what they want to hear.

They are? Soul mates brah.

Psychopathy and charisma tend to go hand in hand.

I had a child with a psychopath a 100 percent narcissistic evil controlling entity

a reply to: neoholographic

I have to deal with a psychopath a couple of times a week, best is just to ignore, and stays as neutral as possible,

very annoying individual..

High EQ, the little know sister of IQ.

Having run into (and dated one) people of this sort, it seems to come down to confidence.

Nobody actually likes being around a person with low confidence, and someone that exudes confidence out of their every pore is a major attraction on an inter personal level. If a person believes their own BS enough, and follows through with it, they attract people.

originally posted by: dubiousatworst
High EQ, the little know sister of IQ.

Having run into (and dated one) people of this sort, it seems to come down to confidence.

Nobody actually likes being around a person with low confidence, and someone that exudes confidence out of their every pore is a major attraction on an inter personal level. If a person believes their own BS enough, and follows through with it, they attract people.

Just need to check certain posters here!😉😉Nudge nudge...

I have found myself attracted to women who turned out to be psychopaths. What I was attracted to initially was the false facade they exhibited. Once their true self was revealed, their psychosis killed any attraction I had for them. I have been single for quite some time because of growing tired from being targeted by fakers. Some make their life trying to take yours. I have two like that.

a reply to: neoholographic

"Why are women and men attracted to psychopaths?"

I don't know. If i had a valid answer i would likely win a Nobel prize or something like that.

Anyway, that is a harsh generalization. Some men like good women and vice versa.

With that being said, the phenomenon is real. I have seen it happen. There was a couple i used to hang out with. Man was manipulating and also violent towards the woman. Then i spent an evening with only the woman. I try not to interfere into other people's business but i suggested she might find a happier life without that man. She said that "There are moments of love also"... Most likely there was, but what i have heard, what i have witnessed, hurt me, and i felt powerless, which i was.

Some psychopathic traits are actually advantageous. For example, in a special forces soldier where things like ruthlessness and confidence are good things - I read about a study a couple of years back on this. These are controlled traits, meaning that not all psychopaths are bad people and end up as serial killers - these are dysfunctional psychopaths.

The trait of self-confidence and helps in forming personal relationships, and this is a trait that is exhibited in psychopaths.

There was a study a few years ago that showed that women undergo an ovulatory-induced perceptual shift that makes them gravitate toward your garden variety psychopath or opportunistic predator types. There are evolutionary reasons for this behavior.

I always get a chuckle out of these 3rd wave feminists that are so concerned with the maladjusted, misanthropic males and then turn around and run into the arms of the charismatic psychopath predator in the 'Male Feminist' t-shirt that go to their little rallies to prey on them. Then they constantly wonder why every man they know is a jerk and they keep constantly getting messed over and taken advantage of.

Not saying they should be going for the maladjusted incel types instead. Obviously, those guys have their own unique set of issues. They are, however, a lot less of an immediate threat to women than the wolf in sheep's clothes standing right next to them. The media, as usual, is getting the narrative ass-backwards and people continue to build their whole worldview on sensationalized anomalous outlying gobbledygook.

We all have a little psychopath inside of us, obviously some more than others.
I’m well acquainted with my psychopathic side, if you tell me that you’re completely normal I’d say you’re a raging egomaniac or don’t know the meaning of introspection.

I have a conscience, I care about others, I don’t trampel on people and I’ve spent most of my life helping them..
But some days I still daydream about killing everyone in the bloodiest way possible.

If you don’t you’re either crazy or you live way out in the country and don’t interact much with people.

The NXIVM thing (along with Scientology) is horrifying but fascinating (simply because it reveals so much about our psychological weaknesses) these same practices transcend those elites circles and trickle down into even small town high school parties and such... the way teenagers interact with each other from my own recall is reminiscent to what kind of things are uncovered about the socialite circles and degeneracy that runs amok at the top. It’s hard if not impossible to catch looking at it in real time, only in hindsight can I really process the origins of behaviors and experiences.

There was a patent Ranier had for some method of determining whether or not someone was what could be considered “Luciferian” (description aptly matched psychopathy, curiously) and whether or not they could be rehabilitated. I read through it many months ago and it spoke of methods like showing violent videos and gauging physical responses.

Knowing what we know about him now, even more disturbing. I stop myself because I get too far down those rabbit holes. They always bring me to the same evidence and conclusion, that it is influenced by a dark, unseen world that reveals itself through cults of the occult.

I have had numerous encounters and unfortunate close relationships to what I can describe as potential psychopathy. It has, after many years and through much suffering, been a catalyst for me to better understand my own consciousness and vulnerabilities.... but in the trenches I think, and maybe because I am a person with what I call high sensitivity and deep empathy, I almost can say I could feel the hole inside of them.... and even though the toxicity was causing me tremendous pain, my subconscious wanted nothing more than to fill that void in them, the one that they didn’t even acknowledge or accept that they had. With love of course, but love doesn’t seem to fill it, only the satisfaction of knowing they’ve caused pain and suffering. They respond to that in the same way most respond to unconditional love. Especially evident when you notice the abundance of confidence and charisma these people do possess, that always clashes with the obvious insecurities underlying some of the jealous and controlling, even abusive behavior expressed in private.

The things being revealed to me in today’s climate regarding subjects like this make me see my young, impressionable years of adolescence (12-18ish) in such a different light. Choices I thought I was making were heavily persuaded by the culture.... and from my perspective the culture is most deeply influenced by the Hollywood industry, or pop culture in general, which is being revealed to have been infiltrated by cults like NXIVM and others, and so we come full circle, for me at least.

At the bottom of it all seems to lie the covert subtleties of mind control/overt occultism and deceptive spiritual movements. Psychopathy as a viral meme... perhaps.

We are waking up though. Just hope it’s to the right thing because the damage control being implemented is just a continuation of the deception.

originally posted by: GreenGunther
We all have a little psychopath inside of us, obviously some more than others.
I’m well acquainted with my psychopathic side, if you tell me that you’re completely normal I’d say you’re a raging egomaniac or don’t know the meaning of introspection.

I have a conscience, I care about others, I don’t trampel on people and I’ve spent most of my life helping them..
But some days I still daydream about killing everyone in the bloodiest way possible.

If you don’t you’re either crazy or you live way out in the country and don’t interact much with people.

There is no such thing as a psychopath it’s just someone who has gained the ability to believe their opportunism is good and moral. Most of them come from parents who are also opportunistic and simply believe every other person is crap compared to their children. When Their child acts out with other children or parents they coddle them and protect them from punishment or guilt even when it’s completely obvious it’s their children’s fault. however they also watch their parents act that way with other people viewing other people as below them. This gets reinforced into the kids head and they grow up believing it’s morally just and correct. They learn to play people early because there is no ramifications for their actions from the parents. The stuff they pull is normally small as children but they have some ability to know to hide it and they look for situations where they can exploit a gray area.

Later when it comes to dating they watch and wait. They will hit on their friends girlfriend or boyfriends at the most opportunistic time like after a fight in a very subtle way to avoid detection. When it comes to work these people will sabotage other people’s work in some way like not giving them all the information for a project however they will make sure to cover their tracks so it looks like the your fault.

When caught of confronted they play the victim, act stupid or downplay it as a joke. They will act like a victim with no evidence, act stupid when there is evidence but the malicious intent can’t be proven and downplay it as a joke when you can prove malicious intent and have evidence.

The best way to catch them Is not to out them the second you have evidence but build a case like a lawyer and allow them to do it while your paying attention. Detail everything and act like you don’t know.

When confronted and cornered with solid evidence over time. They will not get pissed they will smile and act happy like it doesn’t bother them one bit but inside they will hate you with a passion.

Most people don’t understand these people are not very intelligent past grade school tactics however they believe this sick game they play on everyone else makes them smarter and that they are better than you. The best use manipulation of others to achieve their goal and will use a group to harass someone or target someone. this is usually easy to spot because they will want to see the results up close and act as a caring person or friend sometimes “someone’s only friend”! If you find yourself in that situation just make friends with who ever doesn’t like the manipulator usually it will be the people he or she warns you about ask these people for the office gossip about you and who is saying it. Than feed your manipulator fake stuff only he would know. Some are smart and won’t take the bait however most of them can’t help themselves.

If your boss is the manipulator, search for a new job but detail your actions with this person and in a detailed letter to HR tell them the boss makes the workplace toxic. Detail the harassment and how it was done make note that this boss knows what grey areas he or she can take advantage of. Tell the company you won’t be using them as a reference however if a lawsuit against him/her ever comes up you will make sure to be a character witness if called. This makes companies extremely frightened. These people only get away with this stuff because nobody makes details it with hr they just leave.

a reply to: neoholographic

Because we consistently deliver the goods.

originally posted by: Veryolduser

originally posted by: GreenGunther
We all have a little psychopath inside of us, obviously some more than others.
I’m well acquainted with my psychopathic side, if you tell me that you’re completely normal I’d say you’re a raging egomaniac or don’t know the meaning of introspection.

I have a conscience, I care about others, I don’t trampel on people and I’ve spent most of my life helping them..
But some days I still daydream about killing everyone in the bloodiest way possible.

If you don’t you’re either crazy or you live way out in the country and don’t interact much with people.

There is no such thing as a psychopath it’s just someone who has gained the ability to believe their opportunism is good and moral. Most of them come from parents who are also opportunistic and simply believe every other person is crap compared to their children. When Their child acts out with other children or parents they coddle them and protect them from punishment or guilt even when it’s completely obvious it’s their children’s fault. however they also watch their parents act that way with other people viewing other people as below them. This gets reinforced into the kids head and they grow up believing it’s morally just and correct. They learn to play people early because there is no ramifications for their actions from the parents. The stuff they pull is normally small as children but they have some ability to know to hide it and they look for situations where they can exploit a gray area.

Later when it comes to dating they watch and wait. They will hit on their friends girlfriend or boyfriends at the most opportunistic time like after a fight in a very subtle way to avoid detection. When it comes to work these people will sabotage other people’s work in some way like not giving them all the information for a project however they will make sure to cover their tracks so it looks like the your fault.

When caught of confronted they play the victim, act stupid or downplay it as a joke. They will act like a victim with no evidence, act stupid when there is evidence but the malicious intent can’t be proven and downplay it as a joke when you can prove malicious intent and have evidence.

The best way to catch them Is not to out them the second you have evidence but build a case like a lawyer and allow them to do it while your paying attention. Detail everything and act like you don’t know.

When confronted and cornered with solid evidence over time. They will not get pissed they will smile and act happy like it doesn’t bother them one bit but inside they will hate you with a passion.

Most people don’t understand these people are not very intelligent past grade school tactics however they believe this sick game they play on everyone else makes them smarter and that they are better than you. The best use manipulation of others to achieve their goal and will use a group to harass someone or target someone. this is usually easy to spot because they will want to see the results up close and act as a caring person or friend sometimes “someone’s only friend”! If you find yourself in that situation just make friends with who ever doesn’t like the manipulator usually it will be the people he or she warns you about ask these people for the office gossip about you and who is saying it. Than feed your manipulator fake stuff only he would know. Some are smart and won’t take the bait however most of them can’t help themselves.

I appreciate your reply, it does indeed echo the reality, but true psychopaths exist.
It’s been proven by MRI scans and such.

Brain chemistry is altered, empathy is non existent etc.

These are people who’s pleasure centers light up when they see a photo of a dead puppy.

They are out there, they act as you describe, but genetically they are different.
It’s usually a predisposition of some kind that gets triggered by environment (epigenetics).

I tend to like the crazies. They are more fun.
Perfectly sane people are often boring.

originally posted by: GreenGunther

originally posted by: Veryolduser

originally posted by: GreenGunther
We all have a little psychopath inside of us, obviously some more than others.
I’m well acquainted with my psychopathic side, if you tell me that you’re completely normal I’d say you’re a raging egomaniac or don’t know the meaning of introspection.

I have a conscience, I care about others, I don’t trampel on people and I’ve spent most of my life helping them..
But some days I still daydream about killing everyone in the bloodiest way possible.

If you don’t you’re either crazy or you live way out in the country and don’t interact much with people.

There is no such thing as a psychopath it’s just someone who has gained the ability to believe their opportunism is good and moral. Most of them come from parents who are also opportunistic and simply believe every other person is crap compared to their children. When Their child acts out with other children or parents they coddle them and protect them from punishment or guilt even when it’s completely obvious it’s their children’s fault. however they also watch their parents act that way with other people viewing other people as below them. This gets reinforced into the kids head and they grow up believing it’s morally just and correct. They learn to play people early because there is no ramifications for their actions from the parents. The stuff they pull is normally small as children but they have some ability to know to hide it and they look for situations where they can exploit a gray area.

Later when it comes to dating they watch and wait. They will hit on their friends girlfriend or boyfriends at the most opportunistic time like after a fight in a very subtle way to avoid detection. When it comes to work these people will sabotage other people’s work in some way like not giving them all the information for a project however they will make sure to cover their tracks so it looks like the your fault.

When caught of confronted they play the victim, act stupid or downplay it as a joke. They will act like a victim with no evidence, act stupid when there is evidence but the malicious intent can’t be proven and downplay it as a joke when you can prove malicious intent and have evidence.

The best way to catch them Is not to out them the second you have evidence but build a case like a lawyer and allow them to do it while your paying attention. Detail everything and act like you don’t know.

When confronted and cornered with solid evidence over time. They will not get pissed they will smile and act happy like it doesn’t bother them one bit but inside they will hate you with a passion.

Most people don’t understand these people are not very intelligent past grade school tactics however they believe this sick game they play on everyone else makes them smarter and that they are better than you. The best use manipulation of others to achieve their goal and will use a group to harass someone or target someone. this is usually easy to spot because they will want to see the results up close and act as a caring person or friend sometimes “someone’s only friend”! If you find yourself in that situation just make friends with who ever doesn’t like the manipulator usually it will be the people he or she warns you about ask these people for the office gossip about you and who is saying it. Than feed your manipulator fake stuff only he would know. Some are smart and won’t take the bait however most of them can’t help themselves.

I appreciate your reply, it does indeed echo the reality, but true psychopaths exist.
It’s been proven by MRI scans and such.

Brain chemistry is altered, empathy is non existent etc.

These are people who’s pleasure centers light up when they see a photo of a dead puppy.

They are out there, they act as you describe, but genetically they are different.
It’s usually a predisposition of some kind that gets triggered by environment (epigenetics).

Brain chemistry has to do with connections in the brain and you make connections by learning new things. They never learned to equate the pain of other to themselves. The argument can go to nature vs nurture and I’m sure their are a few nature cases however the mass majority are created by sh!t parents creating sh!t children. I hate to be that guy but I believe it’s caused by non western ideals of morality and ethics. It’s can be a cultural thing I know people on here have seen the videos of people in China walking around and ignoring someone dying on the street, I watched a video of people ignoring a child in China who got ran over and was bleeding to death for 2 hours. Ps not all Chinese people are like this especially American Chinese people. Now not everyone is Chinese who is a psychopath than why does every race and people have them? Because of the disconnect. I’m better than you mentality that usually comes from wealth. I bet you a large majority of white supremacy guys would save a black kid from drowning if they saw it and the same could be said for any other racist group, a black group that hates whites would help a white kid etc. so I think it breaks down to children and how people view them! The western world views children as innocent and to be protected. Empathy always starts with helpless babies because you had once been one no matter the race it breaks gender, race and even species. However like you stated these people smile at dead puppies pictures. That’s because they had been raised to view themselves and family innocent and the world below them. All you can trust is family type of mentality everyone else is out to get you. So the only empathy these people have is for themselves and or family.

originally posted by: Veryolduser

originally posted by: GreenGunther

originally posted by: Veryolduser

originally posted by: GreenGunther
We all have a little psychopath inside of us, obviously some more than others.
I’m well acquainted with my psychopathic side, if you tell me that you’re completely normal I’d say you’re a raging egomaniac or don’t know the meaning of introspection.

I have a conscience, I care about others, I don’t trampel on people and I’ve spent most of my life helping them..
But some days I still daydream about killing everyone in the bloodiest way possible.

If you don’t you’re either crazy or you live way out in the country and don’t interact much with people.

There is no such thing as a psychopath it’s just someone who has gained the ability to believe their opportunism is good and moral. Most of them come from parents who are also opportunistic and simply believe every other person is crap compared to their children. When Their child acts out with other children or parents they coddle them and protect them from punishment or guilt even when it’s completely obvious it’s their children’s fault. however they also watch their parents act that way with other people viewing other people as below them. This gets reinforced into the kids head and they grow up believing it’s morally just and correct. They learn to play people early because there is no ramifications for their actions from the parents. The stuff they pull is normally small as children but they have some ability to know to hide it and they look for situations where they can exploit a gray area.

Later when it comes to dating they watch and wait. They will hit on their friends girlfriend or boyfriends at the most opportunistic time like after a fight in a very subtle way to avoid detection. When it comes to work these people will sabotage other people’s work in some way like not giving them all the information for a project however they will make sure to cover their tracks so it looks like the your fault.

When caught of confronted they play the victim, act stupid or downplay it as a joke. They will act like a victim with no evidence, act stupid when there is evidence but the malicious intent can’t be proven and downplay it as a joke when you can prove malicious intent and have evidence.

The best way to catch them Is not to out them the second you have evidence but build a case like a lawyer and allow them to do it while your paying attention. Detail everything and act like you don’t know.

When confronted and cornered with solid evidence over time. They will not get pissed they will smile and act happy like it doesn’t bother them one bit but inside they will hate you with a passion.

Most people don’t understand these people are not very intelligent past grade school tactics however they believe this sick game they play on everyone else makes them smarter and that they are better than you. The best use manipulation of others to achieve their goal and will use a group to harass someone or target someone. this is usually easy to spot because they will want to see the results up close and act as a caring person or friend sometimes “someone’s only friend”! If you find yourself in that situation just make friends with who ever doesn’t like the manipulator usually it will be the people he or she warns you about ask these people for the office gossip about you and who is saying it. Than feed your manipulator fake stuff only he would know. Some are smart and won’t take the bait however most of them can’t help themselves.

I appreciate your reply, it does indeed echo the reality, but true psychopaths exist.
It’s been proven by MRI scans and such.

Brain chemistry is altered, empathy is non existent etc.

These are people who’s pleasure centers light up when they see a photo of a dead puppy.

They are out there, they act as you describe, but genetically they are different.
It’s usually a predisposition of some kind that gets triggered by environment (epigenetics).

Brain chemistry has to do with connections in the brain and you make connections by learning new things. They never learned to equate the pain of other to themselves. The argument can go to nature vs nurture and I’m sure their are a few nature cases however the mass majority are created by sh!t parents creating sh!t children. I hate to be that guy but I believe it’s caused by non western ideals of morality and ethics. It’s can be a cultural thing I know people on here have seen the videos of people in China walking around and ignoring someone dying on the street, I watched a video of people ignoring a child in China who got ran over and was bleeding to death for 2 hours. Ps not all Chinese people are like this especially American Chinese people. Now not everyone is Chinese who is a psychopath than why does every race and people have them? Because of the disconnect. I’m better than you mentality that usually comes from wealth. I bet you a large majority of white supremacy guys would save a black kid from drowning if they saw it and the same could be said for any other racist group, a black group that hates whites would help a white kid etc. so I think it breaks down to children and how people view them! The western world views children as innocent and to be protected. Empathy always starts with helpless babies because you had once been one no matter the race it breaks gender, race and even species. However like you stated these people smile at dead puppies pictures. That’s because they had been raised to view themselves and family innocent and the world below them. All you can trust is family type of mentality everyone else is out to get you.

Well yes.
Epigentics are genes that can be altered through environment (nurture).
So we’re in full agreement here

Sh1ty parents raise sh1ty kids who become sh1ty adults.

a reply to: neoholographic

I didn't know a psychopath could be charming or draw people in. I always thought they were violent. Had I been asked why people are attracted to them, women mainly, I would have thought it was because they thought that as long as they were in good spirits with the monster, it would spare their lives. Sort of like pretending to like Michael Meyers so he'll spare your life while he kills others.