TicTac UFO Pilot Cmdr. David Fravor New Interview on JRE

Disclosure is in the winds, whether it's real or not
New Interview on JRE with the pilot talking all that about the Nimitz and Tic Tac UFO
THIS IS A 30 MINUTE CLIP DETAILING THE ENCOUNTER:

THIS IS THE ENTIRE 2 HOUR PODCAST EPISODE:

Im amazed at this whole story. If it's not fugazi somehow, it's the closest thing we have to disclosure at the moment

Now, this is in the conspiracy forum so here's a conspiracy twist for kicks:
Guess who's beside him?
None other than Jeremy Corbell, the awkward beard from the now well-known interview with Bob Lazar.
Corbell is either a genuine and dedicated pursuer of the truth or a legit CIA/ MIB operative to breathe down his neck
I remember a few threads way back about Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong TV appearances where they had unnamed assistants alongside seemingly manipulating the answers or audibly reminding of their presence at moments with sensitive questions about the moon...
I want this to be real but my gut tells me something is going on behind the scenes.

David Fravor is making 💴 off this shizz now. Jeremy Corbell has arrived.

I’m not discounting the Nimitz encounter. Just can’t stand Corbell 🤮

S & F

Rogan is looking rough.

Is there anything new here? Did he say anything he hasn't already hawked somewhere else? I didn't watch the video and I can tell you the answer: no. No doubt it's the exact same thing, all the exact same fuzzy details and double speak that has appeared any time the "encounter" has been written or talked about. But don't worry, a few "I must believe, and it's aliens!" members will be in here shortly, telling me that I doubt this whole narrative because I'm not ready for the truth.

Jeremy Corbell is an idiot, and if he ever WAS in it to find truth, he isn't now. He's locked in with the Bigelow/TTSA/George Knapp crowd now, who can't be trusted.

a reply to: KansasGirl

Yeah. But how do you really feel about him?


I'm with you though. I'd prefer a synopsis of any new "information" rather than sit through 2 hours of the same ol'.

Disclosure is in the winds, whether it's real or not

Would not disclosure mean , by definition , real accurate information ?
But I guess it could continue as it has over the last 40-50 years (science fiction)

Enki and Enlil never left

originally posted by: Gothmog

Disclosure is in the winds, whether it's real or not

Would not disclosure mean , by definition , real accurate information ?
But I guess it could continue as it has over the last 40-50 years (science fiction)

It seems disclosure means different things to different people but for the UFOlogists, means the Government telling people they have been in touch with and have physical proof of ET sice Roswell.

For me however, I dont believe the US government know as much as people think/want to believe they know so they have nothing to "disclose".

This guy is seeming disclosing all he knows unmolested by the Government, the US have disclosed the evidence they have in the sensor recordings, so by definition, this is disclosure, its just not want the believers want to hear.

originally posted by: KansasGirl
Rogan is looking rough.

Is there anything new here? Did he say anything he hasn't already hawked somewhere else? I didn't watch the video and I can tell you the answer: no.

If you didn't watch it then how would you know?

No doubt it's the exact same thing, all the exact same fuzzy details and double speak that has appeared any time the "encounter" has been written or talked about.

Plenty of very specific detail but you have to put aside the lazy mindset and actually listen.

But don't worry, a few "I must believe, and it's aliens!" members will be in here shortly, telling me that I doubt this whole narrative because I'm not ready for the truth.

A classic pre-emptive attempt to argue against someone who hasn't even made an argument because you know you won't have a rebuttal to begin with.

Maybe you can call Mick West and have him explain what Fravor actually saw since West is an expert at aircraft identification based on his many years sitting behind a computer screen writing game code.

Jeremy Corbell is an idiot, and if he ever WAS in it to find truth, he isn't now. He's locked in with the Bigelow/TTSA/George Knapp crowd now, who can't be trusted.

Corbell isn't an idiot. He's an annoying ass clown who never shuts up but apparently he got the message lima charlie after the Rogan - Lazar podcast because he says very little during this podcast.

Please keep regaling us with your deep insight into these threads. You bring so much to a thread.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: KansasGirl

Yeah. But how do you really feel about him?


I'm with you though. I'd prefer a synopsis of any new "information" rather than sit through 2 hours of the same ol'.

Not any new info on the two flights, but what is different is how a lot of information was dismissed by the pilot as people making things up. As far as the recording of the UFO he explains what all the data on there shows and what was able to lock and not able to lock on to it as well as how there was no heat plumes of any type of exhaust.

As far as interviews go this was the best IMO.

a reply to: Grimpachi

But Fravor only had visual contact with something. Something different from the FLIR video. Right? Because the FLIR video doesn't show anything like what he described previously. Has his description changed?

I might have to give it a listen.

Anyone actually get to this point thus far?

Or dismiss it all?

The gentlemen is talking the language. I'll Finnish the video. No one is looking up with their eyes and seem to know the story very first hand. Could be a big fish tail or a genuine sighting of something not previously known.

Great interview..

I'll take the word of Navy pilots. They know what is what. To suggest it is our own military experimenting on our own military seems ludicrous to me. And to also suggest a foreign country would risk a move like this (such as jamming signals), is also ludicrous. These pilots are obviously being truthful in what they saw (and the video backs this up). So the only options are - our own military screwing with our own military (endangering them), a foreign power intruding (which I don't believe for a moment), or.. something not from our government, or a foreign government. Which makes the most sense, as unbelievable as it seems.

Keep in mind the Navy admitteded these where unidentified objects that in their opinion, should not have been released to the public. The behavior of the object (ridiculous acceleration without a plume.. no thrust from known propulsion) does not match with craft from any country. For non-believers, what do suggest it was? A foreign power that was so bold as to test their high tech craft in the middle of one of our training exercises off of our coast? Our own Navy endangering our own aircraft to see how they can "fool them" with new high tech drones?

This is not fiction. These objects are real. It confuses expert Navy pilots. They exhibit performance none of our craft have. And probably not foreign powers, either. CLEARLY not foreign powers. For a whole lot of reasons.. that is not even a reasonable option. I'd like to hear some reasonable explanations of what these were, from skeptics.

Listened to about half.

One thing I took from what I heard is Fravor is adamant about no “men in black or higher authority “ retrieving data or trying to suppress information to his knowledge. Some other personalities in the Nimitz incident universe say there were ranking officers in suits that came onboard the next day by HELO . He’s been vocal about some of the other WOO witnesses of the incident.

Also I bet Corbell is there because he has his eyes on making a Nimitz incident documentary. “Engage you curiosity”

Is that his saying? I can’t keep up. But overall interesting stuff

I will keep watching this entire TTSA saga at arms length.

So if these are craft and ET wants to hide should we assume ET is "bad" at stealth?

If these are ET craft, then they're deploying atmospheric ships to play 'hide and seek' and taunt our forces?

What about things like 'sonic boom' which does not seem to be present. This tells me that it's possible these were projections or some kind of radar-reflective (on purpose) hologram-like thing, which is moving like the pilots witnessed for a purpose.

Purposeful 'hide and seek' tells me that this is an Earth-engineered item, and it's testing responses of pilots.

Being sent out to 'find' and report on these in unarmed craft tells me that somehow the flight controllers knew these things were not a threat.

If there's a list of possible causes, I'd suggest that 'ET' piloted craft is at the bottom of a long list of possible explanations.

The man seems extremely credible.

I only see 3 possibilities here.

The US govt has engineered a technology that could change the course of human history and thinks the best use for it is pranking the US Navy.

Another nation has invented the same tech and thinks sending it over foreign soil to prank the US navy, revealing it, is in its best interest.

There's a force from elsewhere so far in advance of us it can play with us all.

They are all disturbing.

a reply to: 1point92AU

Oh sweetheart, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings and made you feel like your worldview is being threatened. Why else would you react so emotionally?

Don't worry honey, they will continue to give you enough tantalizing bits, for years to come, to keep you believing. Dry your tears, love.

a reply to: Maverick7

What about things like 'sonic boom' which does not seem to be present. This tells me that it's possible these were projections or some kind of radar-reflective (on purpose) hologram-like thing, which is moving like the pilots witnessed for a purpose.

Some kind of holographic radar spoofing system is something that occurred to me as well. Probably originating from whatever object was sighted churning under the water.

Plasma based physical holograms

The way it works is like this. When directed toward the sky, a properly tuned proton beam, focused by magnetic lenses, would pass through the first few thousand meters of air with no apparent effect. If the energy levels are adjusted right, the beam itself wouldn’t be visible. Then, when the energy of the beam dropped to a critical value, it would dump its remaining energy in a very short distance, ionizing the oxygen and nitrogen atoms of the atmosphere, causing one damn fine glowing ball of plasma.

A device based upon this principle would make a really exquisite radar spoofing tool. The ionized plasma would give a good radar return, giving targeting radars something else to lock on to, instead of incoming aircraft. The ability to project an object of apparent solidity to enemy radar, instantly manipulatable, would be a most valuable little toy to have in your bag of tricks. As an added bonus, the plasma might even have significant emissions in the IR bands, as a decoy for heat seeking missiles. With enough engineering, it might be possible to reduce the size of the particle accelerator/generator to something small enough to fit on an aircraft (although that’s hard to imagine). The energy requirements would still be quite large, but great advances have been made in the short-term generation of power through chemical means (i.e., airborne lasers).

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Hard to say what these pilots saw. The way they move zig zagging, I can relate with what I have seen. As far as sonic booms, my theory is technically it’s not there or it’s traveling in another dimension, or it’s somehow not influenced by the atmosphere which by characteristics being described it was not. Crazy story, that sounds alien to what we understand. We may get a big discovery soon or a reveal in our lifetime..

Story was ok the other guy kinda sounded really speculative and kinda bull crap about the testing at the so call ufo crash sites etc..

originally posted by: KansasGirl

a reply to: 1point92AU

Oh sweetheart, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings and made you feel like your worldview is being threatened. Why else would you react so emotionally?

Don't worry honey, they will continue to give you enough tantalizing bits, for years to come, to keep you believing. Dry your tears, love.

Stop projecting. That's where you project your feelings of inadequacy onto someone else as a means to protect yourself from your feelings of inadequacy. I've told you in the past you literally never contribute anything to a thread. You typically parrot what another poster says and nothing more.

I enjoy exposing the emotionally frail and weak posters in these threads.

a reply to: KansasGirl

What is your problem?