What Happened to God?

a reply to: Seede
What is the difference between the brain and the mind?

Can a thought be known prior to it happening?

originally posted by: Seede

a reply to: Seede This present appearance is disappearing as it appears..... Look at a thought..... does it stay? Answer the question....or at least consider it. All is new in Christ.... this ever present image is constantly changing, morphing, flowing.

A thought can be revisited and totally recalled by memory. Is that memory contained in the brain or is it contained in the mind?

Here is a fascinating look at thoughts.... this vid is named:
The Quiet that Contains the Mind.

It is less than 5 minutes long.

Cell phones

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Seede
What is the difference between the brain and the mind?

Can a thought be known prior to it happening?

Deciding a reaction prior to action is classically known as conditioning. Which is another way to say you're not thinking because information is not being factored, it is being reflexively answered with no regard to content. If that makes you happy then cool, but let's not pretend it is the same as being "woke" .

a reply to: TzarChasm
Can a thought be known before it appears?

Is there a thinker separate from thought?

Is there someone thinking? Or do thoughts simply appear?

a reply to: TzarChasm
What does being 'woke' mean?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: TzarChasm
Can a thought be known before it appears?

Is there a thinker separate from thought?

Is there someone thinking? Or do thoughts simply appear?

Did you know what your response would be before you saw my post? Do you understand what that would mean?

a reply to: TzarChasm
It means every question asked has not been answered....
I did not understand the relevance of your reply to the the last two questions you quoted.
So I tried again but it seems you do not want to answer... no problem.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: TzarChasm
Can a thought be known before it appears?

Is there a thinker separate from thought?

Is there someone thinking? Or do thoughts simply appear?

Did you know what your response would be before you saw my post? Do you understand what that would mean?

I don't understand.... what would that mean?

It means this exchange really should return to the topic.

a reply to: Seede

What is the difference between the brain and the mind? Can a thought be known prior to it happening?

Yes a thought is known before that thought appears or is known by others. But this is limited to theology as well as those who are gifted or trained in this field.

One must start with Torah in the Torah theology. Torah teaches us that Adam was created in the image and the likeness of the Most High. Adam was not created in just one of the portions of His Creator but was created in two portions of his Creators. The Most High is total Spirit or one likeness which is one portion but when the Most High brought forth His image then He had two portions. The second portion was His image to His creation. In this event it is taught that the image was called The Word of God. The Word of God [Image] is an independent entity which was given the likeness of His Father which is life within Him and the ability to create.

The image [Word of God] then created the physicality of the celestial world and had all authority as the Creator of the first creation. The Word of God has now, and had then, the image given to Him by His Father and the Spirit of life [likeness of the His Father.]

And the Most High spoke to His Son and said --- Genesis 1:26 --
"Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

As Adam was then created, He was formed from the creation of earth by the Word of God in the image of The Word of God. Adam was then given a portion of life [likeness] from the Most High. This is the doctrine of Jesus given to us by the brother Jacob [James The Just.]

There are two acts in procreation. the first act is that of being conceived or given a body [image.] That image or body is formed from earth the same as all of this second creation [universe] is formed from earth. But the likeness of that image is not of this earth and a portion is given from The Most High Father to each conceived image that is procreated and is the life of that image.

Now we see that a procreated man/woman has an image and in that image is a brain. That brain has receptors that controls all physicality of the image [body.] But remember that that brain will one day perish because it is the substance of earth. It serves the purpose of conducting physicality. What then is consciousness? Consciousness is the life force or likeness given to the image and this life force cannot perish as the image perishes because it is not of earth but is of the first celestial creation.

The likeness controls the image and is called the mind. As the image [brain] perishes it is the mind [likeness] that is judged and sentenced to rewards or punishments. This doctrine of Jesus differs from that of rabbinic philosophy which teaches that the image will rise up and reunite with the likeness and both be judged. So in effect it is the mind that transmits and the brain that receives. In this theology it is the mind that is judged and is contained either in the terrestrial realm of Sheol or the celestial realm of the kingdom of heaven.

The mind [likeness] conceives the thought and the brain [image] shows the thought in the terrestrial reality to its image. As the mind [brain] receptors rest does not mean that the likeness transmitters also rest. If that were the case then one would have no life or consciousness. This is the reason I said that a thought does precede the happening of that thought.

Example -- Let us go to the store. In this case the us is both the mind and the brain. --- --- That thought may provoke the brain minutes or even hours before the brain motivates the body to act and the thought becomes an act of physicality.

As an image dies it has no further use for receptors that also die. The mind has no further use for the brain and returns to the Creator for its judgment of worth. Basically that is the doctrine of the Nazaren's who teach the doctrine of Jesus. You may have been taught differently and that is really your own choice in theology. I have no quarrel with your theology regardless of the difference it may have with mine.

The eighteen years I spent with the dying and sick have taught me to be open minded in the affairs of medical science. There are many medical scientists that are working very hard on this that I have written and there is much evidence that will support some of this theology. Not all but just some of the Nazarene theology. If you differ then that is ok with me. I am not trying to preach or sell a religion. -- lol

a reply to: Seede
Instead of knowledge from books or doctrines or scientists, why not look directly to where thoughts occur and watch? Why rely on what you have been told or learned when you can look for yourself?

Can the next thought to appear be known prior to it's appearance?

The assumption is that you are the thinker of thoughts.... but really the thought (the known/the appearance) and the knowing of it happen as one seemless happening. No one is thinking..... thoughts the same as clouds simply happen.... no one ever did a cloud or a thought.

The father (the seeing/the invisible god) and son (seen/the visible image) are one......and there is nothing else... this is what there actually is..... just this everpresent showing of the visable image.

There is only the one life..... it is what is happening.... there is no thing (no one) separate... all one in Christ.... Christ/the visable image.

Everything appears in the image that is visable..... there is nothing other that what is appearing... no person is doing this image, apparent people appear in the image (everything does).....all is done.

But the belief is that there are separate doers...... how is that possible when God is all powerful?

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Seede
What is the difference between the brain and the mind?

Can a thought be known prior to it happening?

Deciding a reaction prior to action is classically known as conditioning. Which is another way to say you're not thinking because information is not being factored, it is being reflexively answered with no regard to content.

Who decides?

There is a presupposing of something which does not exist.

What is happening is not decided by anyone......

This is God alone....... no thing separate.

Nothing ever happened to God..... God is what is happening.... God is what is appearing as life/existence.

Life/existence is one without a second.....

a reply to: Itisnowagain

"Everything appears in the image that is visible"

Different images for different people hence the separation.

"But the belief is that there are separate doers...... how is that possible when God is all powerful?"

Prove it.

Just like the rest of the nonsensical mince, you repeat in spades, you cant.

a reply to: andy06shake

a reply to: andy06shake
No one can prove there is anything other than what is appearing.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

No, you cannot prove there is anything other than what is appearing to you.

And you are obviously unwilling to jump out a window thus test the premise of your bullcrap.

That suggests to me that you don't even believe your own pathetic nonsensical rhetoric.

As they say Itisnowagain "break a leg" your act is getting tedious.

a reply to: andy06shake
If jumping out of a window is happening then that is what is happening.. but presently 'jumping out of a window' is just words happening.

There is only ever what is happening.

a reply to: andy06shake
I fail to see how jumping out of a window will prove or disprove anything.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

In your case whats constantly transpiring seems to be a load of bullcrap.

Like a said tedious nonsensical rambling based on nothing more than your seemingly very limited perspective.

Big world out there Itisnowagain, and an even bigger universe, but you simply cannot teach pork.