House backs release of Trump whistleblower complaint 421-0

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: RazorV66

I do? How so?

My point was that releasing the complaint to the public would only fuel speculation.

It should be released to the public.
We need to see with 100% factual evidence that it was just another hysterical anti-Trumper, paid by anti-Trump lawyers for his bullsh!t 2nd hand account.
Ya know....so we see another nail go in the Leftist coffin.

Supporters can always hope for the best.

I will refrain my judgement and a call for impeachment for once the facts are out. This has just started, once we know what did happen and what did not, only then should we take a side on impeaching or not.

The allegations are serious enough that all of the legislators, House and Senate, are all on the same page on this so far.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Scepticaldem

You seem to be here to just argue for arguments sake.

What point are you trying to make?

In this thread? To point out that the whistleblower complaint has been released to some members of Congress.

Is that worth looking into?

Sure.
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Is that not obvious corruption?

No.

Is Trump wrong for asking why the prosecutor on that case was fired?

Yes. Because his motivation is not about rooting out corruption.

Your answer was literally Hunter Biden should have made $50,000 a MONTH from a Ukrainian gas company!!!!!!!!!

Lol

I'm done with you

Lolz 🤪

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
Is this person even a whistle blower when

1 - they were not there and have no first hand knowledge
2 - someone leaked it to them
3 - they then leaked it via a Clinton/CIA operative

Mueller - Strike 1
Obstruction - Strike 2
Stormy - Strike 3
Trump Jnr Hotel - Strike 4
.. shouldnt they be out by now?

Yeah, i dont think so. Leaking second hand infornation sounds more aligned with the definition of "eavesdropping" which in that case, the whistleblower could be in trouble if they were not a participant in the matter at hand and they documented or recorded what they overheard.

a reply to: Scepticaldem

Your answer was literally Hunter Biden should have made $50,000 a MONTH from a Ukrainian gas company!!!!!!!!!

No. I already said board members are often paid a lot of money for doing very little.

originally posted by: Oraculi

originally posted by: Steveogold
read the report it was headline news this morning nowt to worry about a reply to: Oraculi

You're thinking of the non-verbatim transcript of one phone call that was released.

This is the whistle-blower complaint that the DNI and the DoJ are refusing to release other than to a few member of the Congress. The ENTIRE Congress is now asking for its release.

This complaint could paint a better picture and might point to other phone calls or a set of them.

True, but why isn't the ENTIRE Congress asking for a complete copy of the data on the crowdstrike server/host?

That's where the real info would be in my opinion.

a reply to: Notoneofyou

Doesn't seem to have much to do with the topic though.

One other thing to note is that all these calls for impeachment so far and all the uproar over the transcript, is so far ONLY about what the White House released and what they thought would make it go away hopefully.

And it just made it worse.

Just imagine if there are phone calls they don't want released. What if this is the cleanest of all of it?

originally posted by: Notoneofyou

originally posted by: Oraculi

originally posted by: Steveogold
read the report it was headline news this morning nowt to worry about a reply to: Oraculi

You're thinking of the non-verbatim transcript of one phone call that was released.

This is the whistle-blower complaint that the DNI and the DoJ are refusing to release other than to a few member of the Congress. The ENTIRE Congress is now asking for its release.

This complaint could paint a better picture and might point to other phone calls or a set of them.

True, but why isn't the ENTIRE Congress asking for a complete copy of the data on the crowdstrike server/host?

That's where the real info would be in my opinion.

I have no idea, but it has nothing to do with this.

I guess if there was more to that topic, they all would have done it also unanimously.

So the House wastes time with a bill and a vote and all the B$ that comes with it right before the Damn thing gets released anyway 😃 🦿 😃

this is really RICH... both camps wants full disclosure....

the Dems because the 'whistleblower' who has the TDS so bad that he/she is convinced that Trump's plea to the Ukraine leader was coded language for the Ukraine to bend-over to the Trump Administration demand for 'dirt' on the Biden influence peddling practices

the GOP because they read the transcript in a completely different light...
they recognize that Trump is trying to express to the Ukraine Leader that the Ukraine had better wash-their-hands of the Biden the Elder/Biden the Younger unethical money stream that was created, per agreements made during the Obama Administration...about military hardware packages of over $450 millions over a period-of-years...


Trump was alerting the Ukraine Leader of unethical kickbacks deals that had been arranged (RE: Biden the younger @ $50k monthly) that tainted all present/&/future military hardware shipments that needed to be OK'd by Trump


that TDS Trump Derangement Syndrome can get in the way of Clear-Thinking... huh?

No wonder Pelosi was reluctant to charge-in blindly... she understands the Complexity of the Telephone call


I;m not speculating...i'm attempting to explain the TDS craziness that allows the inmates to run the Asylum

a reply to: xuenchen

So the House wastes time with a bill and a vote and all the B$ that comes with it right before the Damn thing gets released anyway

Just like the Senate did yesterday. But it's not a bill.

originally posted by: Oraculi
One other thing to note is that all these calls for impeachment so far and all the uproar over the transcript, is so far ONLY about what the White House released and what they thought would make it go away hopefully.

And it just made it worse.

Just imagine if there are phone calls they don't want released. What if this is the cleanest of all of it?

What if Trump was really trying to help the Ukraine protect against Russia? As the "Transcript " shows?

Which side are you on now? Ukraine or Russia?

You said Trump was working with Russia, now Trump is working for the Ukraine??????

Lolz🤪

Yall need to pick a side conspiring against you!

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: xuenchen

So the House wastes time with a bill and a vote and all the B$ that comes with it right before the Damn thing gets released anyway

Just like the Senate did yesterday.

What did they do?

a reply to: Scepticaldem

theweek.com...

originally posted by: drewlander

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
Is this person even a whistle blower when

1 - they were not there and have no first hand knowledge
2 - someone leaked it to them
3 - they then leaked it via a Clinton/CIA operative

Mueller - Strike 1
Obstruction - Strike 2
Stormy - Strike 3
Trump Jnr Hotel - Strike 4
.. shouldnt they be out by now?

Yeah, i dont think so. Leaking second hand infornation sounds more aligned with the definition of "eavesdropping" which in that case, the whistleblower could be in trouble if they were not a participant in the matter at hand and they documented or recorded what they overheard.

Didn’t isreal just get caught with cell towers intended to eves drop on the whitehouse? Than amazingly there is a case that involved trump phone records. I wonder who could be behind this?www.google.com...[/url]

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Scepticaldem

theweek.com...

No clue what this is trying to explain.....

Again, your credibility is going to hell

Lolz🤪

originally posted by: Oraculi

originally posted by: Notoneofyou

originally posted by: Oraculi

originally posted by: Steveogold
read the report it was headline news this morning nowt to worry about a reply to: Oraculi

You're thinking of the non-verbatim transcript of one phone call that was released.

This is the whistle-blower complaint that the DNI and the DoJ are refusing to release other than to a few member of the Congress. The ENTIRE Congress is now asking for its release.

This complaint could paint a better picture and might point to other phone calls or a set of them.

True, but why isn't the ENTIRE Congress asking for a complete copy of the data on the crowdstrike server/host?

That's where the real info would be in my opinion.

I have no idea, but it has nothing to do with this.

I guess if there was more to that topic, they all would have done it also unanimously.

It's in the summary of the phone call between the President and Ukraine's President.
The crowdstrike host/server is believed to have the records of the investigation into Biden's son that was underway until Biden threatened to withhold aid to ukraine. Ukraine magically fired the investigator, received its aid package, and Biden's son made a boatload of cash.
Thus causing this entire fiasco.

a reply to: Scepticaldem

No clue what this is trying to explain.....

You asked what the Senate did yesterday, right?

They did the same thing the House did today. Passed a resolution that the complaint be presented to Congress.

originally posted by: Veryolduser

originally posted by: drewlander

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
Is this person even a whistle blower when

1 - they were not there and have no first hand knowledge
2 - someone leaked it to them
3 - they then leaked it via a Clinton/CIA operative

Mueller - Strike 1
Obstruction - Strike 2
Stormy - Strike 3
Trump Jnr Hotel - Strike 4
.. shouldnt they be out by now?

Yeah, i dont think so. Leaking second hand infornation sounds more aligned with the definition of "eavesdropping" which in that case, the whistleblower could be in trouble if they were not a participant in the matter at hand and they documented or recorded what they overheard.

Didn’t isreal just get caught with cell towers intended to eves drop on the whitehouse? Than amazingly there is a case that involved trump phone records. I wonder who could be behind this?www.google.com...[/url]

www.google.com...

a reply to: Notoneofyou

The crowdstrike host/server

I don't think you know what Crowdstrike is, any more than Trump does.