Trump changes his story on Ukraine again

a reply to: Sookiechacha

I think its one of them also.

I also do not think they are required to release the name of the whistleblower. Isnt that part of the whole protection thing so they feel they can come forward without consequence?

a reply to: Sillyolme

Silly, I am about to say something you may not be able to grasp right away. Please, for once, slow down and read the following very slowly. Let it sink in. I have faith in you; you can do this! Just don't give up. If it doesn't work the first time, read it slowly again.

You ready? Here it is:
















I agree with you. The law must be followed.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: stosh64

The need to release the complaint in full.
No one should be saying they shouldn't unless they know that there is something in that that that is incriminating to trump.
Thats the only reason not to release the complaint.
The laws put into place in 2004 when the office of DNI was established state that any complaint SHALL be turned over to congress.
No ands, ifs, buts, or maybes. SHALL

Hahaha
Bring your impeachment
Lets see the end of the dnc
There was no law broken
Bye bye dems

The left has lost all credibility themselves, whether their kicking and screaming tantrums remove Trump from office or not.

a reply to: Gorgonite

a reply to: Sillyolme

If it is one or both of them, I don't think either one of them is scared. I just think that they want to do everything by the book, every i dotted and t crossed, on the up and up.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

I would like that too, but I don't think the public has a right to see the whistle blower complaint.

No right? Excuse me! We are talking about impeaching the President I chose to represent me! If we're doing that, I damn sure do have the right to see the evidence! I'll make an exception for national security issues, but if Trump can declassify the transcript of his call that quickly, they can damn sure declassify the complaint!

This idea that the government knows best what's good for those who elected them is hogwash. WE THE PEOPLE run the government through our representatives in this country, not the government running WE THE PEOPLE!

Impeach Trump on secret information, and get ready to rumble.

TheRedneck

Oh declass it all
It will be glorious

a reply to: TheRedneck

Yeah, if the Intelligence Community thinks the whistle blower complaint is compelling enough to rise to high crimes and misdemeanors, I agree, We The People have a right to know the entirety of the charges and who brought them, and under what circumstances.

How would the intelligence community know?
The complaint is supposed to be classified to protect the whistleblower.

a reply to: shooterbrody

A whistleblower's protection takes second stage to the right of the people to govern. If it's used for impeachment, everything possible, including who made the accusation, must be available to the public.

EVERYTHING.

TheRedneck

a reply to: Sookiechacha

For once we agree.

Now, can we agree that if this turns out to be another false accusation, the whistleblower needs to spend the rest of their life in a Federal cell?

TheRedneck

originally posted by: shooterbrody
How would the intelligence community know?
The complaint is supposed to be classified to protect the whistleblower.

I meant committee. Typo.

The law requires the complaint be forwarded to the Intelligence Committee, by the Director of National Intelligence, after the Intelligence Community Inspector General deemed the whistle blower complaint a "credible and urgent" concern to national security.

I hope that clears up your question as to how the intelligence community would know about the whistle blower and their complaint.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: shooterbrody

A whistleblower's protection takes second stage to the right of the people to govern. If it's used for impeachment, everything possible, including who made the accusation, must be available to the public.

EVERYTHING.

TheRedneck

How is it to be used when the dni will testify Thursday?
The dni has slready stated the complaint was not urgent.
This is nuts

a reply to: Sookiechacha
Only the ig and dni are supposed to know.

a reply to: TheRedneck

False? What do you mean by that? A flat out lie? Trump and Rudy already admitted to most of what we suspected. An overblown alert? No not federal prison for doing what they thought was in the nation's best interest.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Sookiechacha
Only the ig and dni are supposed to know.

And the Intelligence Committee.

a reply to: Sookiechacha
They will get what the dni gives them.

As the whistleblower is outside the dni i wager they get nothing.

You do understand the whistleblower did not have firsthand knowledge of this?

What will you do when this is tossed?

a reply to: TheRedneck

Wait, let me get this straight... It has been acknowledged that the whistleblower was not even in on the call... he received his info second hand. And you claim his second-hand hearsay evidence is more important than the actual transcript of the call? Wow... I think I'm speechless... TheRedneck

go ahead and say it....you do not care about the constitution when it comes to trump... you can say it.. its ok... although i am sure this will be deleted ....

a reply to: shooterbrody

As the whistleblower is outside the dni i wager they get nothing.

The whistler blower isn't outside of the intelligence community, the subject of the complaint, Donald Trump, is. Or, so the White House is arguing.

Trump deserves to be impeached. He revels in abusing power. a reply to: Gorgonite