Trump ordered aid frozen; more Democrats want impeachment

a reply to: Oraculi

Good. More money for the wall.

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Can we move it to the mud-pit? I have some choice words for a few.

a reply to: Oraculi

Seems to me..
All he would need to do, is give a BS reason for holding the funds, that does not involve Biden.
Even if everyone will know it's BS, you can't prove his intent.
Unless it's clear as day in the transcript.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Nothing illegal, eh?

Using his position as, at the time, the sitting Vice-president of the United States to get a prosecutor, who was investigating his son for corruption, fired in the Ukraine isn't illegal... In what world?

Even were it not illegal...it certainly demonstrates a remarkable lack of ethics. Of course, this is Biden, whose grasp of ethics is somewhat lacking.

a reply to: butcherguy

Too bad it wasn't the same thing. I know nuances are complicated.

originally posted by: drewlander
a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Can we move it to the mud-pit? I have some choice words for a few.

No, I posted it here because I want people to be civil. If I wanted it in the mud-pit I would have posted it there. This is a serious matter that deserves serious discussion, not flaming.

Back on topic:

Section 4 of Article Two of the United States Constitution: "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

If these allegations are true, what does using the power of your position to influence others constitute as?

Add in withholding financial aid and to me it looks like Bribery.

If this is true, and the House impeaches, I think the president will be tried in the Senate on the charges of Bribery, specifically.

a reply to: seeker1963

Someone should start a thread about that. That's not this one.

Impeaching DJT would be one of the biggest mistakes the Dem party has ever made. I say go ahead Dems, impeach away. If anyone’s thinks the current divide in the country is bad now, start impeachment and see what happens. I think it would be one of the biggest fiascos in our country’s history. I believe a large majority of Dems think that if they could just get rid of Trump everything would be fine and dandy. I personally don’t think it would play out like that at all and feel they would be doing more damage than good to their party. It’s flat out pathetic now and they want to continue playing chicken chit games? Good luck with that.

Another major problem for them now is they don’t have a candidate worth two bits that American’s would get behind come 2020. If your going to fire someone you may want to have a better replacement waiting to fill that void, otherwise, it’s kind of all for not and you’re going to look even more foolish and lame than you do now, if that’s possible.

a reply to: shooterbrody

168 now.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: seeker1963

Someone should start a thread about that. That's not this one.

That has everything to do with the story we are discussing! Don't tell me what to do either...

a reply to: PurpleFox

But there was no chance of Hunter going to jail.. The investigation which was already scurbbed was into the oligarch who owned the gas company. It was not investigating Hunter Biden. It never was. This is all barking up a tree that has nothing in it.
Pelosi making an announcement at five about opening an impeachment inquiry.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: butcherguy

Too bad it wasn't the same thing. I know nuances are complicated.

Trump just announced that tomorrow, the full unredacted, declassified transcript of the call will be released.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Oraculi

Whatever is in that whistler blower report must be pretty damning and incriminating for Trump to be tripping all over himself like he's doing with this ordeal.

“Why is it always the United States that’s paying? I made that loud and clear. I told that the Mick Mulvaney, I told to a lot of people,” the president continued. “I told it to a lot of different people. I told it to Mike, two Mikes. I it told to Steve. I keep asking Wilbur Ross.”


Trump ranted on: “I said, hold it up, let’s get other people to pay, and then everybody called me, ‘Oh please, can we pay?’ — and they said — and there was never any quid pro quo, the letter was beautiful, it was a perfect letter, unlike Biden.”

www.rawstory.com...

I love watching him try to swim upstream. Someone get him a pair of those blow up floaties for his arms. QUICK!

a reply to: butcherguy

When will he announce that they will release the whistle blower complaint to the Intelligence Community?

a reply to: drewlander

Don't worry. Justice is not going to be denied.
wait for the twitter storm tonight.

a reply to: Tekaran

Sure he is.
This is chutes and ladders. Not 4D chess.
He couldn't play 2D checkers.

a reply to: butcherguy

I heard. He has his sharpie out right now making the corrections to include what he said he said.

Hi Alabama how's the weather down there?

I'm hearing the whistleblower thing is about the last Administration 😎

Trump is releasing the phone call on Wed just the same 😎

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: butcherguy

I heard. He has his sharpie out right now making the corrections to include what he said he said.

Hi Alabama how's the weather down there?

He can't change any wording because there's dozens of people involved 😎