2024 US Election Prediction Thread

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I'm not going to say anything you said is wrong but I will say that the vast majority of voters on both sides have on blinders and only see the short term issues directly in front of them.

Probably a result of our instant microwave burrito society.

I've been saying Ivanka all along. I guess it's time to head to Vegas baby!!

My only prediction right now is the Democrat nominee will be garbage.

The current crop is a joke.

a reply to: PsychoEmperor

Kanye? Kadashian? Rihanna?...hard to tell who will be most popular on twitter in 2024.

Peace

a reply to: Bluntone22
the vast majority of voters on both sides have on blinders and only see the short term issues directly in front of them.

Here I think you hit the nail on the head, but with a twist. Those short term blinders seem to me to be the normal state of human vision from ages ago. Though there have been all those ''great thinkers'' whose thought rolls through the ages, for the most part people have been focused on survival. Crop planting and harvesting. Herd migrations and when to hunt. Getting ready for weather changes twice a year. Where to take my place in the tribe and live out my life in that slot...

It's you and I who are the aberrations here Blunt, all those blinder people are more of an example of humanity than either of us.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I couldnt agree more.

originally posted by: tinner07

the leftist elements will do something to gain power.

a reply to: DBCowboy
You mean like gerrymandering and other # the repubes have been convicted of? those tactics?

Explain to me how Gerrymandering affects a Presidential election.
It doesn't
The electors are chosen by population count and then adding 2 for senators
Here's another fun fact...
The U.S. Constitution doesn't even give you the right to vote in a Presidential election
A state's constitution does
A state could legally change their constitution to allow their legislature to select the electors rather than popular vote
And NOTHING could be done about it
Except vote out the reps that changed the Constitution and vote in new ones to amend it back to allowing popular selection of electors.
Rather than worrying about an inconsequential item like gerrymandering affecting presidential elections
You should worry about phenomena that does affect it
Like packing a state with 5 million plus non citizens and gaining electoral votes from that
That affects presidential elections

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: PsychoEmperor

Plainly speaking: Everyone who voted for Trump in 2016, are going to continue to support him.

This is an very wishful assumption. Could it not be possible that as so many here on ATS have said in the past was that the only reason they voted Trump in 16 was because of the stench of Clinton? Likewise were there not whole swaths of voters who just did not vote because they thought that Clinton would beat Trump easily according to the polls?

It also does not take into account people who have come to see him more clearly over his first term and can now see him for the blustering bull$hitter he is?

I think it's more than an assumption...

First, the people who voted Trump because Hillary sucked?

Look at the current crop of Democrats running right now.

Hillary is actually a much better candidate then any of them for a general election.

So the people who didn't vote for Hillary sure as hell are not going to vote for Joe or Warren.

Factor in the amount of people that are going to vote with their wallets, the massive amount of people the Democratic party left behind when they lurched too far left and the people who are going to vote R for anything with a pulse and you are looking at a pretty easy win for Trump this time.

Let's face it... the Democratic party is helping him win 2020.

a reply to: Lumenari

Yup, somehow trump keeps winning the Democrats debates and hes not even in the building.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire


You think the political pendulum will go to the center? That's an interesting view. I can understand if both parties in 2024 put forward fresh new faces and they are center right and center left politicians. I would hope for that type of outcome, as the extreme sides are scary because you never know "how far they will go"

I understand we disagree about 2020, but for 2024 is where I'm open and have no idea. I believe 2024 is going to be a very interesting year because "anything can happen" If Trump is popular still at this point, which is unlikely because who remains popular after two terms in this day and age? but if he does then I could see him naming a successor and that person getting in easily, but I feel like FAR more likely is after two terms the country is ready for a change, even if it's a "Thanks for a job well done, now lets go back to liberal issues" type of way.

I've always felt that the American People elect the correct person, whether I agree with the choice or not. I believe 350 Million Free Thinking Americans are far more intelligent then myself alone. So I've always supported every president, regardless of my personal vote. I believe after 8 years of Trump the economy will be humming along and both parties will support "the status qou" when it comes to the economy so the issues of 2024 will be more about Social Issues, which is where the Democrats actually have majority support.

It would be interesting if they take the 2024 opportunity to go extreme left and to see if it'll work or back fire if they choose to do so.

Either way, I hope you're correct, it'll be nice to see moderate candidates in 2024.

a reply to: Lumenari

First, the people who voted Trump because Hillary sucked?

Look at the current crop of Democrats running right now.

OK, let's.

Hillary is actually a much better candidate then any of them for a general election.

Well, let's look at that ok? Clinton was not a socialist nor was she much of a leftist. She was at best a centrist who sought power from the ranks of old guard liberals and young people who are a product of pop culture. This base fizzled before our eyes and she lost.

But you know what? That party does seem to be falling all over itself. That Lewindowski hearing was a complete joke and no matter how CNN tried to spin it it was clear to everyone. Sure he stonewalled. Sure he obfuscated. Who in their right m ind would have expected anything else from him. Well, I guess Nadler and his happy go lucky speech makers.

And that re-call when the book came out and all those candidates calling to impeach Kavanaugh. What a splendid show of idiocy that was.

See, Im just not willing yet to believe that the whole of the Democrat Party is as dysfunctional as ATSers make them out to be. They can't be, can they? If they are and they don't come up with a more moderate and acceptable candidate for ALL Americans to choose from then they need to fizzle away into smoke dreams. That would leave us with only one party who hare already proven themselves to be nothing more than a party of Toadies who knuckle down and quake in fear of their own careers every time Mr. Big Man looks in their direction. OH, not me massa, not me. I"m loyal, I'm your guy. Yes sa yes sa. What ever you say boss.

a reply to: PsychoEmperor

Psycho, you have a much more rosy notion of the American electorate than I do. I see that throughout my years, both parties have failed to nominate the ''best'' candidate to run for potus and hence we have never in that period of time, my voting years, had the best candidates to choose from. This is why I have voted mostly for independent candidates who by my standards were better suited to guide the nation.

Even as much as I did not care for Obama, at least he was someone who could help us hold it all together enough so that the system of capital could cobble itself back together again, at least for a decade.

originally posted by: tinner07
a reply to: Bluntone22
so you are ok with the president being an asshole? and making a mockery of the office?

No I am not okay with Obama. Never was and never will be.

Ivnaka would run as a Democrat...

I think you will see another centrist/populist candidate win in 2024. The last 3 years have so shown the progressive movement that you here the left called Progressives not even Democrats. You might even see a break and shift in the parties after 2020.

One thing is for certain. The landscape of the US political system is forever changed.

originally posted by: tinner07

the leftist elements will do something to gain power.

a reply to: DBCowboy
You mean like gerrymandering and other # the repubes have been convicted of? those tactics?

Gerrymandering is not an advantage in Presidential elections 😎 🦿

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: PsychoEmperor

Psycho, you have a much more rosy notion of the American electorate than I do....

Yes I get that a lot. I'm an optimist who believes in our American System and more importantly the American People

😍😍

a reply to: xuenchen

I was wondering when someone would point that out...

Gerrymandering does work at the local and state, not to mention congressional, though not the Senate, or Presidential.

Justify the means by pointing out the evil GOP did it first. Seriously, the Dems never gerrymandered? Ever?

Politics is a dirty business, that's why more people need to be involved.

I think the President will continue to do such a good job over the next five years that the ‘left’ will just continue to chase supporters away with their disgusting reactions and rhetoric

They have no hope in 2024

a reply to: PsychoEmperor

My pick for 2024..

Candace Owens Vs Michelle Obama, with a win for Owens and another eight years of liberals crying helplessly at the sky, whining about a racist, NAZI POTUS and multiple, baseless impeachment hearings (with Blasey Ford coming forward yet again to tell everyone that Candace Owens also raped her at a party) ..!!