**Calling Isaac Koi** - UFOs are real, US Navy FINALLY admits, never should have been released to pu

a reply to: celltypespecific

He already lost his credibility when he said that Mogul and crash test dummies were an acceptable excuse for Roswell.

He and his anti-alien crowd here should know that all these tickytack "videos" have human eyewitnesses that go along with them.

I appreciate those that debunk UFO videos and I also appreciate those that counter the debunkers with supporting evidence. I can't stand those that makeup BS to force their views on others.

The few navy reports for UFO's are the best pieces of evidence I have seen along with the firsthand reports from radar operators and pilots. Some of it has been debunked as far as the video claim that it speeds off which was shown that was a change in magnification. It still remains unidentified and I hope more people keep investigating it.

My personal belief on Alien origin UFO's is that if they are real and they do not wish to be seen then they will not be seen.

In my not so humble opinion...They ARE here. Right now as you read these words.

originally posted by: MissSmartypants
In my not so humble opinion...They ARE here. Right now as you read these words.

I can lean that way but cannot commit. It is missing the proof of E.T. that is really the game changer.

Presently, we have an official acknowledgement that the object(s) were there, but unidentified.

Bitter sweet, but something.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

We know they're real. The Military briefed a few Senators and President Trump on the craft. Obviously they are "friendly", since the nations of the world aren't on heightened alert status.

originally posted by: MissSmartypants
In my not so humble opinion...They ARE here. Right now as you read these words.

"They" (meaning many species) have always been here. Coming and going. We're the fish in the fish-bowl called Earth. Technologically advanced lifeforms briefly stop to peer in at us, before continuing on their way.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Sublimecraft

I've been thinking lately the Navy UFO videos are hoaxes made with fake video overlays. The idea is to see how the pilots react as some kind of crazy military psychological experiment like the Milgram experiment. See how the pilots react or perform under overwhelming superiority.

So a camera records on a plane, the pilot sees it out of the wind shield as well, but it's some kind of hoax? Interesting.

originally posted by: celltypespecific
the US NAVY with ALL their expertise has declared that the vidoes are genuine UFOs....not balloons

Until you indentify it, a balloon is a UFO.

not aircraft so please

You might want to edit this out.

From someone who saw a UFO, at a very young age, I so want to believe these are other worldly. But wasn't the Navy doing exercises when this occurred? What comes to my mind is new technology, they were testing. Possibly related to spying?

a reply to: gortex

Elizondo was a GS-15 and was the Director level....not exactly a low level employee. It would be akin to a Colonel in military rank. I know that you must already know this, so its more of an FYI to everybody else.

originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly if there was some "earthly", those responsible for the video would have jumped at a chance to debunk it. They have not.

1000% this.

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

If they told us that UFOs were "real" and that their pilots come from an advanced civilization which evolved on this planet, or within the same solar system, would we believe it?

That's the problem, IMO.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

This has obviously been going on with Pilots around the world for some time. They know they are waaaay outclassed, you can tell by how ecstatic one of the video pilots becomes when he actually got a lock on the UFO..lol

originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
their pilots come from an advanced civilization which evolved on this planet, or within the same solar system, would we believe it?

Out of a housing tract of 200 houses the aliens are going to come out of the same house as us?
No way.
Too many other houses out there that were built before ours.
Too many houses with a head start on technology.

originally posted by: Myrtales Instinct
What comes to my mind is new technology, they were testing. Possibly related to spying?

"NEW"?

"This has obviously been going on with Pilots around the world for some time."
- Ironclad1964


“As Maguire got his bearings, and the situation was revealed to him in its starkest form, the reasons behind the blind panic became staggeringly clear: a huge, unidentified aerial object was being tracked on the radar-scopes high over the English Channel: “The mechanics were being blamed for not calibrating the instruments properly; we were being blamed for not interpreting the readings correctly. Every single instrument on the base was showing this enormous object sitting up at an unbelievable height. It was the size of a warship and it just stood there.”
-RAF Sandwich, Kent ~ during Operation Mainbrace, September 1952

“It was something supernatural. I immediately thought of course, of saucers, because that’s actually what they looked like. They were not leaving a condensation trail as I knew we were. They were circular and appeared to be stationary. We continued to climb to twice that height [to 30,000 feet] and as we did so they did in fact change position. They took on a slightly different perspective. For example the higher we got they lost their circular shape and took on more of a ‘flat plate’ appearance – like when you hold a tea-saucer above your head and look at it, and then bring it down to your eye-level, it loses the circular shape and becomes a flat plate.”
-Little Rissington, Gloucestershire, October 1952

a reply to: spiritualarchitect

They've solved the FTL problem but haven't figured out that artificial megastructures are cheaper to create and provide more room to grow (the goal of every living species) than whatever their version of terraforming is?

I don't buy it. I don't know very many people who can do math that do buy it. YMMV.

I'm curious as to why the fighter pilots didn't fire on them or at least request permission doesn't look like they even tried to chase .

a reply to: Gargoyle91

Because they didnt do anything threatening to them, and it usually better to err on the side of caution in situations like this, less you inadvertently start an intergalactic war? You would have to assume that these things have the capability to defend themselves if need be.

a reply to: PokeyJoe

Didn't the Iranian F4 pilot try to lock on with weapons, only to have much of his control rendered non-functional?

I wonder if that report was among declassified govt documentation. So many of these reports are printed once and then repeated in other works without ever really seeing any firm documentation.

Cheers

Look, I want to believe. But what so far do we have evidence of? A few pixels the navy can't identify that move uniquely on the screen. How does that LEAP over any reasonable and even some exciting explainations to evidence of zeta ridiculians visiting? Call it a "meme" if belittling logic helps you feel better but for those of us seeking the reality of the situation it seems appropriate to point out what is and isn't proved to avoid rampant speculation and disinformation.

a reply to: Sublimecraft