Trumps Loans had Russian co-signers

a reply to: RexKramerPRT

Oh, that's right, Orange man is bad and Russians are bad. I like how leftists lose it and call Trump a racist when he calls MS-13 animals or points out that some of the criminals who illegally cross our border are rapists and murderers but anyone or anything Russian is evil and probably criminal. Won't they ever tire of this absurd Red Scare?

a reply to: RexKramerPRT

We also know that Deutsche Bank were the only bank that would loan Trump money due to his history of bankruptcy.

This is false.

Your entire post is a ludicrous online lie.

Deny ignorance please.

are you still continuing this bull#?

this is way worse than the birthers, I thought them and the tea party were bad holy crap this is beyond bad it's indicative of a serious mental health issue

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

I get your point. My point however is if all those 3 letter agencies didn't look into or, somehow "missed" something critical the United States has much, much bigger problems because if they missed it, the conversation then goes to what else have they missed over the years because this was not that hard to look into.

They might very well know this information. As others have pointed out, there is nothing illegal about it. They wouldn't release that information though unless it was used in a legal proceeding.

I will eat crow if this goes anywhere but what is more believable; they didn't find anything, or Lawrence Odonnel is a firebrand extreme far left socialist TV pundit who makes a living off of good TV ratings and he hates Trump with every cell in his body.

I've never watched him before, but given the network he is on, seems like a fair assessment. I don't watch cable media any more, they're all pundits willing to say whatever appease their based viewers. And since this came from one, I'm taking the allegations with a heavy dose of salt. But historically speaking, if there was a bank that would do sketchy things with Russian money, Deutsche Bank would be it.

originally posted by: RexKramerPRT
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Hard to imaging how a property developer could be involved in money laundering? Isn't that a pretty good business to be in if that's your game.Funny you should mention casinos:

Just months before Donald Trump announced his bid for president in 2015, federal regulators announced they were slapping one of his longtime Atlantic City casinos with a record-setting $10 million fine for lack of controls around money laundering.

‘Trump, Inc.’ Podcast: Money Laundering and the Trump Taj Mahal

Then please explain the scheme to me, because I have literally never heard anyone try to explain how anything Trump did is supposed to constitute money laundering. I'm at work and cannot listen to a podcast.

originally posted by: toysforadults
are you still continuing this bull#?

this is way worse than the birthers, I thought them and the tea party were bad holy crap this is beyond bad it's indicative of a serious mental health issue

No one has even said that this is true or provided any allegations past Russian cosigners.

Simmer down there toysforadults.... We're just chatting.

Trump and his followers remind me of the childrens tale, "the emperors new clothes".

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Selling multi million dollar properties to people from all around the world, often hidden behind shell companies, no questions asked? Dirty money in, flip property, clean money out. Laundered.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: RexKramerPRT
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Hard to imaging how a property developer could be involved in money laundering? Isn't that a pretty good business to be in if that's your game.Funny you should mention casinos:

Just months before Donald Trump announced his bid for president in 2015, federal regulators announced they were slapping one of his longtime Atlantic City casinos with a record-setting $10 million fine for lack of controls around money laundering.

‘Trump, Inc.’ Podcast: Money Laundering and the Trump Taj Mahal

Then please explain the scheme to me, because I have literally never heard anyone try to explain how anything Trump did is supposed to constitute money laundering. I'm at work and cannot listen to a podcast.

From the link:

Just months before Donald Trump announced his bid for president in 2015, federal regulators announced they were slapping one of his longtime Atlantic City casinos with a record-setting $10 million fine for lack of controls around money laundering. The problems went back years. The penalty was actually the second record-setting fine for the Trump Taj Mahal involving money-laundering oversight. What exactly did the Taj fail to do? Casino officials admitted to “willful and repeated” violations of the Bank Secrecy Act: As federal authorities put it in a settlement: Trump Taj Mahal admitted that it failed to implement and maintain an effective AML [anti-money laundering] program; failed to report suspicious transactions; failed to properly file required currency transaction reports; and failed to keep appropriate records as required.

You know the media has run out of ideas to trash Trump when they start recycling old news stories. Currently, we have 3 I know about. Deutsche Bank, Convefe, and tax returns. Just another day of hysteria by the media.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Did I say it was ok? You're putting words in my mouth. The point is these people seem to be above the law. You dont see an issue with all this?

One has to break a US law , before they are above US law.
You knew that
Oh , wait.
Maybe you didn't

When will folks stop paying attention to those glorified headlines that are followed by "sources say"
A source could be the person running the street sweeper in the parking lot.

I borrowed money from a company in Ohio once.

Scary you get your money where you find the best deal.

It's called business.

a reply to: LogicalGraphitti

Co signing for money requires some sort of agreement. If the bank in question is known to launder Russian money... where does it go then? Isnt it a little suspicious?
I've had conversations on this topic before. It's a rather loose ended theory that he is part of a money laundering ring, but there does seem to be shady business going.

originally posted by: Wayfarer
Do any Trump supporters actually care if he's in bed with Russia financially?

Honestly?

no.

Trumps getting very positive results for AMERICANS!

He's a billionaire, he's 70.. money is no longer his drive.

I'm sure his fortune comes from multiple countries/groups/organisations...

If Muellers investigation, the CIA and FBI never leaked this.. then i doubt its true

a reply to: Middleoftheroad

Back then Deutsche bank was still just under speculation of laundering money. Its fact now.

Problem is, they have only loaned trump around 3 billion, over a decade of time pretty much. Not that much money put of the 100 or so the bank has pushed through various loans.

Socialist a$$hats throwing anything that they can find at the wall and praying that something sticks before 2020.

Their obsession with Trump's tax returns is a joke. If there was anything damning in them some Public Sector Union drone Irs employee would have leaked them by now.

a reply to: [post=24586232]RexKramerPRT[/post

Well ...Robert Muellers team did in fact already review the documents in question and apparently found nothing amiss. As for the Dutch bank being the only bank to loan Trump money is absolutely false. Barclays, JP Morgan, Chase, are three which continue to loan money to the Trump company, and at least one of those banks managed the Trump family Trust.

As far as the documents, the tax returns will probably reveal that the Trump corporation pays very little in taxes, as other corporate entities such as Amazon which paid zero, Google, and General Motors. This is a result of our convoluted tax systems which Congress is responsible for and of course they ensure that plenty of loopholes exist.

It's no secret that Trumps companies have business with Russian citizens as in selling properties and since China, and many other countries invest in US companies all the time, I see no gotcha here. Just this morning Japan become the single largest US debt holder surpassing China, this is after a new trade agreement was reached with Japan, do we know scream Japan collusion ?

It's a shame that we misrepresent the facts only to fit the narrative we want. Banks from all over the world have loan business with Trumps companies. It's a bit bigoted to claim that someone who has a Russian name is automatically a "Russian Oligarch" when they could very well Americans as we do have a large Russian community in the US. Should we round them all up ?

We should at least get our facts correct when doing a hit piece. It always turns bad when sources are in reality some unnamed individual without the fortitude to go on record. The release of the documents in question will no doubt be embarrassing but will not reveal collusion or any other nefarious activity, or Team Mueller and the Grand Jury would have already wrapped him up and presented him to Democrats.

a reply to: strongfp

Ok, so I'm to believe a bunch of keyboard warriors on Twitter is gonna find what the FEC, IRS, Mueller's investigation, and other investigations haven't found? Just another left-wing wet dream.

a reply to: Middleoftheroad

Well. The whole point of money laundering is to avoid those agencies. When you have big wig oligarchs paying double and triple the amount for a condo in one of trumps condos it raises some red flags.