Bernie Sanders: Would he really be that bad.?.?

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Wardaddy454

It was first for union carpenters, the government, some states,

Point is had nothing to do with henry Ford. He succumbed to the status quo.

Check your revisionists history at the door.

Grant was a union man.

www.history.com...

And your examples did not extend to private businesses, correct?

Same source

Nearly a decade prior.

So yeah, Grant gave government workers 8 hour days, but again, that did not extend to the private sector. Grant was all about freedom after all. So, between 1869 and 1936... there was nothing as far as labor laws, except Henry Ford trying to keep his workers around. Doesn't matter why he did it, the workers benefited from it.

Grant is quoted as saying "The most confident critics are generally those who know the least about the matter criticized"

Maybe check your ignorance at the door?


Now, we could get into Wagner's motivations if you'd like, or we could just watch it being played out today. The exact same way. herb.ashp.cuny.edu...

originally posted by: Gumerk
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Most ‘stunts’ don’t drag on for forty plus years. “From Mayor 1981 to Senator 2019.”

He’s been fighting for human rights for as long as I’ve been living; a good man.

BS. He is not a good man. Dictators always claim to restrict/ban rights for the good of the collective/the good of the environment/the good of the Earth...

Hitler and the nazis demonized Jewish people based on "animal rights" because of how Jewish people must kill and prepare animals they will eat. He also demonized them by claiming they were materialistic and that money was their God.

This Day in Jewish History 1933: Nazi Germany Outlaws Kosher Slaughter

The Jewish people were deemed as "the rich," because it was true many Jewish people were successful, Hitler introduced laws to know how much money they had to steal it and "redistribute it for the good of the German people."

A 1938 Nazi Law Forced Jews to Register Their Wealth—Making It Easier to Steal

Hitler and the nazis were radical environmentalists/ecofascists, they implemented laws that banned the boiling of crabs/lobsters, banned several forms of hunting, included a "no animal suffering" law which hunters had to follow such as no traps, clean kills and in general no "animals should suffer laws." At one point at least one fisherman was sent to a concentration camp by Göring for cutting up a live frog for bait.



Killing Humans is okay, but don’t boil a lobster-Nazi animal welfare.

I don't believe or condone animal cruelty, but giving more rights to animals than to humans is simply "inhumane." Even the nazis claimed that the Jewish people were inhumane, barbarians, etc for how they must kill and prepare the animals they will eat.

Even in the 25 points of the National Socialist program they asserted that the collective is more important than the individual.

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The Common Interest before Self-Interest
...

The 25 Points of National Socialism

In nazi Germany individual rights were suspended "for the good of the collective." Hitler implemented a gun registration program and then used it to disarm political opponents and minorities.

When someone claims "certain rights have to be limited or banned" they will do anything and everything to take away your individual rights for x cause.

When dictators take away/restrict individual rights they are restricting/banning human rights.

ALL forms of socialism/communism are based on collectivist ideals and ALL OF THEM seek out to restrict/ban individual/human rights for x cause and the good of the collective.

Because of the above FACTS socialism and communism are anathema to the ideas/concepts of individual rights/human rights and a free market system.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Sounds a lot like Trump.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Wardaddy454

It was first for union carpenters, the government, some states,

Point is had nothing to do with henry Ford. He succumbed to the status quo.

Check your revisionists history at the door.

Grant was a union man.

www.history.com...

And your examples did not extend to private businesses, correct?

Same source

Nearly a decade prior.

So yeah, Grant gave government workers 8 hour days, but again, that did not extend to the private sector. Grant was all about freedom after all. So, between 1869 and 1936... there was nothing as far as labor laws, except Henry Ford trying to keep his workers around. Doesn't matter why he did it, the workers benefited from it.

Grant is quoted as saying "The most confident critics are generally those who know the least about the matter criticized"

Maybe check your ignorance at the door?


Now, we could get into Wagner's motivations if you'd like, or we could just watch it being played out today. The exact same way. herb.ashp.cuny.edu...

Nope. Try again.


Lol..
Where did it say Henry Ford was the first person to come up with a 40 hour work week?

Did you read your source lol...

a reply to: Assassin82

The problem with Bernie and the Democrats is that they are either very bad problem solvers or they are the equivalent of the used car salesman telling you what you want to hear. Since he endorsed Hillary which goes against everything he is supposed to be representing I lean more towards the latter.

The Democrats solution to give more power and more money to the gov't is equally as stupid as going to the MOB and giving them more money and power to fix your problem with crime in your city.

The democrats can't be taken seriously as long as they continue to talk about solutions for healthcare,immigration,education,wages,welfare,jobs,etc. They need to stop talking about those things and focus ONLY on the one real issue which is CONFLICT OF INTEREST. minimize conflict of interest first then lets talk about fixing healthcare,immigration,education,wages,welfare,jobs,etc. If you don't make conflict of interest priority 1 and the only priority than nothing will be fixed as we have seen from both parties.

BTW on the Rogan youtube channel something funny is going on with the comments. Its like they are shadow banning you. I made a comment under my account and can clearly see it under my account, but while logged in to another account my comment along with some others are not shown.

Not sure if that is Rogans channel filtering it or if youtube is doing it?

a reply to: Wardaddy454

It is essential that there should be organization of labor. This is an era of organization. Capital organizes and therefore labor must organize.

Theodore Roosevelt

No man can be a good citizen unless he has a wage more than sufficient to cover the bare cost of living, and hours of labor short enough so after his day's work is done he will have time and energy to bear his share in the management of the community, to help in carrying the general load.

Theodore Roosevelt

The general tendency towards an eight-hour working day has undoubtedly been healthful, and it is wise for the State to set a good example as an employer of labor, both as to the number of hours of labor exacted and as to paying a just and reasonable wage.

Theodore Roosevelt

He's a weak, old frail man. He would die of old age two days after he got into office anyway. I think he really belives in Socialism, but history teaches us that it never works...and it never will.

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
After listening to him calmly and eloquently explaining his policies on Joe Rogans podcast I have to admit I was super impressed. I am not a big fan of the tax hikes that go along with his agenda but I believe our system of checks and balances would keep him in check. Short answer is no I don't think he would be that bad.

You know after listening to quite a bit that every candidate running for president has to say, Bernie's rationale isn't radical by any means, and makes the most sense as far as the direction the country needs to take. Just sayin..