Insomnia, anyone else deal with it?

a reply to: Silure

Chamomile extract, coffee cruda, and white noise---I prefer rain, river and ocean sounds---allow me to turn off my brain and fall asleep easier.
On bad nights, there is also valerian to use.

Also, got a new higher end down pillow....works wonder for my neck and my sleep. Do some research on fill numbers....I think mine is a 700.

www.wisegeek.com...

originally posted by: Silure
a reply to: BlueJacket
Edit, I have constant nerve pain in my lower legs, they twitch and do whatever the #### they like when in bed, sometimes I don't even know if my two feet are touching each other or it is the cat sat on me lol.

Have you tried magnesium oil?
I don't know how well it would work for pain, but it does wonders for bad muscle cramps....I use it on my legs every night.

originally posted by: Silure
, been in touch with someone loved many miles away in a different time zone

There is your problem. You live in the wrong timezone. Circadian rhythm is f0rked up. Time to move.

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Magnesium oil? Ive never tried that but I am interested. I thought cbd was bs until my wife tried it and it helped with her hip pain more than any doctor could for a year prior. I wouldnt have believed it still if i hadnt tried it myself after being in pain from painting my office.

originally posted by: hiddeninsite
a reply to: Silure

Try Holy Basil. I've tried valerian, skullcap, hops, chamomile, passion flower, melatonin, sleeping pills - they helped to some degree but either didn't keep me asleep or helped relax me but didn't get me to sleep. The sleeping pills were addictive and made me so sleepy I could sleep days away.

The thing with herbs is not all work for everyone.
Holy basil, hops, passion flower and meltonin do not work for me.....but most people take too big a dose of melatonin.
Trial and error.

Sleeping pills are really dangerous long term, IMHO.

a reply to: drewlander

It can tingle the first few times you apply it, but it does help.
I even massaged a bit into the tight muscles of my shoulder and it helped.

magnesium oil

My old homemade remedy ?
About 1 hr before I want to go to sleep :
1) Chill the house
2)When house is cool , bordering on cold , down a glass of very cold milk (sometimes I drop 2 or 3 ice cubes in)
The chill sets in, go under the cover , nighty night , the hibernation effect takes place.
(this is not for everyone)

a reply to: Gothmog

Believe it or not, i too find a chill glass of milk helpful to wind down, but it has to be real milk -- vitamin d. Not the watered down crap.

originally posted by: drewlander
a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Magnesium oil? Ive never tried that but I am interested. I thought cbd was bs until my wife tried it and it helped with her hip pain more than any doctor could for a year prior. I wouldnt have believed it still if i hadnt tried it myself after being in pain from painting my office.

CBD is simply amazing. A friend of mine runs a shop and they sell it, she says 80% of her customers for that product are 70+

a reply to: Silure

I had insomnia for most of my life.

Then 5 years ago a stumbled into a cure for myself.

When I lay in bed I imagine that I have a random super power. Nothing to strong. The type of power that would take some thought in order to use it properly.
I imagine what I would do. I think about what the consequences of my actions using those powers would be.

Before I know it I'm asleep.

I used to stay up all night laying in bed wishing I could sleep but now I wish I could get through one of these imagined super power scenarios before I'm sleeping.

Don't let your mind wonder. Stick to the fake story. And your mind will become tired.

a reply to: Silure

I also have nerve problems. My restless legs and arms are helped a lot if I get into a specific position. Face down knees up to my abs, arms crossed under me on my chest.

After doing that for a dew minutes the nerves in my arms and legs calm down.

Again I lucked into this cure for me. Basically my nerves were so active that I HAD TO MOVE MY ARMS AND LEGS AROUND WHEN TRYING TO SLEEP,HAD TO. I couldn't stop them.

But then one night after tossing and turning and moving around I got into that position and suddenly my body felt relief.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Try my suggestion. it's on the 3rd page.

a reply to: DBCowboy

(This should please many) Basically, I'm brian damaged.

We have you on record now! 8p

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

I agree.

Melatonin is only supposed to be used for 2 weeks and then one is to take a break.

So many options. St. John's Wort is another - but, one has to be careful of interactions with other meds they are on, and it's definitely a trial and error.

Holy Basil is supposedly great for neuropathic pains as well.

Top herbs for peripheral neuropathy.
www.salubrainous.com...
Holy basil
Holy basil, or more commonly tulsi, is a plant that has been used for its healing powers for over 3000 years. From its ancient Indian medical use to modern day use it has been applied to treat a range of problems.

Most prominently, it behaves as an adaptogen (stress –regulator) and blood purifier.

The plant is rich in several minerals and vitamins. Some of these are sodium, manganese, vitamin A and vitamin K. [30]

Holy basil’s analgesic property makes it a promising herbal remedy for nerve pain and damage. It has been seen to heal nerve degeneration. It reduces the effects of nerve damage and pain, improves motor activity and aids reflexes. [31]

In animal models, the Holy basil extracts have successfully lowered oxidative stress levels and calcium accumulation associated with neuropathy. It ameliorates symptoms of neurotoxicity brought about by chemotherapy. [32]

The potential effects of Holy basil for peripheral neuropathy treatment are yet to be translated in human studies. (Read 6 Benefits of Holy Basil For Peripheral Neuropathy)

Quick Gist: Studies in animal models suggest that holy basil has a few active ingredients that relieve nerve pain and initiate nerve repair. This is not yet confirmed by human studies.

Chronic nerve pain can cause stress and sleep disturbances in patients with peripheral neuropathy. Holy basil can serve as an effective herbal supplement for mitigating mental health symptoms of neuropathy.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Silure

I had insomnia for most of my life.

Then 5 years ago a stumbled into a cure for myself.

When I lay in bed I imagine that I have a random super power. Nothing to strong. The type of power that would take some thought in order to use it properly.
I imagine what I would do. I think about what the consequences of my actions using those powers would be.

Before I know it I'm asleep.

I used to stay up all night laying in bed wishing I could sleep but now I wish I could get through one of these imagined super power scenarios before I'm sleeping.

Don't let your mind wonder. Stick to the fake story. And your mind will become tired.

I do a similar thing if I cannot sleep, I create some sort of story I act in, like flying a plane around or just sitting by the lake fishing. A sort of dream you make up. I never do have that dream I start as a dream though, I would have thought it would continue when you fall asleep, but no...never has.

a reply to: Silure

ah would leg pain be caused by diabetic neuropothy

Drink a couple of ounces of pickle juice. The intense concentration of salts the twitching.

Tired of Control Freaks

My cousin has insomnia and I bought him a sleep machine that has worked for him. I learned about it from a coworker that used one with some success. The machines have a number of settings including rain, forest, ocean as well as white noise, lfo noise and fan imitation sounds. My cousin likes the white noise and my coworker liked the fan sounds. I noticed during the summer when I have a fan in my bedroom, I seem to fall asleep faster.

a reply to: Silure

I stay up quite late, but I also sleep in.

a reply to: Silure
That's rough. I don't have it that bad, thankfully, but it does take me a long time to fall asleep. I also have the early waking kind that makes it suck bad.

Have you tried melatonin?