Ascending and Descending

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Are you saying i don't exist because I'm an apparent being on your screen or you don't exist because your an apparent being on my screen?

How could I deny the existence of other people?

Either we both exist or we both don't...

In the end it's the same, a very abstract state of mind, quite annoying to be in and it doesn't help at all to get self-aware...

the experiences you have while observing the screen are there for a reason and they wouldn't be the way they are if you wouldn't watch.

This tv comes with a remote control read the instruction manual


Sincerely No Clue

originally posted by: NoClue
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Are you saying i don't exist because I'm an apparent being on your screen or you don't exist because your an apparent being on my screen?

There is just now being aware of what is appearing now.

No thing really exists because what is appearing is transitory.

Here, it will take just 2 minutes to listen to this discussion...... It may take longer for it to sink in.

There is no me............. Observingness is all.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Very profound statement there. And I completely agree on it.
Did anyone ask him what the next step is?


Honestly No Clue

originally posted by: NoClue

Shure it might mean that all that ever is real is the now! And all else is delusion. There is nothing else than the perceived moment from the point of view of the observer. And each one sees the reality he is capable of perceiving, from where he looks at thing's.

Where are you looking from?
Saint Francis of Assisi said 'What is looked for is what is looking'.

Notice that everything is appearing including that apparent body, thoughts, emotions, words......stories made of words about other times and places.... but as they appear they disappear..... But something..... which never appears remains..... and that is knowingness.

Everything could be said to be made of knowingness.

a reply to: NoClue

Holy cow...just on the first post and already asking myself, "what the hell is with the passive aggressive tone," and, "my gosh does this person understand that the dumbest thing a person can do is convince himself he has it all 'figured out' after all the minds before him failed to?"

And I see as you keep going it just gets worse. Nobody is going to want to hear what you have to say when your thread is so blatantly screaming obvious an attempt to inject your ego with a boost of self and solely identified superiority and totally ignores attempting to have a point.

originally posted by: NoClue
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Very profound statement there. And I completely agree on it.
Did anyone ask him what the next step is?

Well there is no next step.... there is just what is appearing to happen.
It is over, finished, compete, whole.

a reply to: NoClue

Here is what often happens when the penny drops.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

If that's the whole thrut why doesn't anything but my perception Changes when the penny dropped. This state of mind is just the beginning...
laughing is more an instinctive reaction. if you open up the gates and your mind is not harmonic the disturbance is so big that it risks to brake. Laughing will influence your frequency so it stays within the bearable. If you can access this state with a harmonic mind you might be able to abstract something from it. And bring it into useful abstraction so everyone has a better understanding.

Honestly No Clue

a reply to: NoClue

Who wants to get something?

The laughter happened because the joke was got....... The laughter was spontaneous...... it is not a therapy to achieve something.

There isn't anyone to get something...... What is is.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

What do you do the whole day with that state of mind?

How can you bring this state of mind effectively into everyday live?

Seems an easy way out, just take the first penny for the absolute thruth, after all it took some time to get there!

We have a universe waiting for us!

no clue

originally posted by: NoClue
a reply to: Itisnowagain

What do you do the whole day with that state of mind?

I do nothing.... that's the point......there is no thing separate..... no me!!
That is the joke.
Listen to the 2 min vid again.....

What is happening is simply appearing to happen...... withn the observingness.

The seer and seen are not two.

What is (the All, the One) is all seeing/knowing, ever present and all power.


Part 2

originally posted by: NoClue
a reply to: Itisnowagain
How can you bring this state of mind effectively into everyday live?

It is not a state of mind.... the mind is just thoughts appearing and disappearing.
There is only now (what is actually happening)........

Seems an easy way out, just take the first penny for the absolute thruth, after all it took some time to get there!

How long does it take to get to now?

We have a universe waiting for us!

The belief there is that there are two things.... you and the universe but there are not two things.

There is simply what is happening..... there isn't any thing separate.

a reply to: Itisnowagain


Close your eyes and do nothing, nothing happens?

Well shure the guy drinks, eats, sleeps, goes to podium discussions so on so forth, why?

You don't do anything but writing on this bord the whole day or wasn't that you either?

There isn't anything separate right, why are you not me?
Well actually you are but that is only posible to grasp if you get out of one-ness and understand the reason for an socaled phisical (apparently separate from the one-ness) observer. he's not really separate but here we are!
sitting next to someone you can't deny the presence of yourself in what appears to be separated from you.

There is only the universe i am the universe i am the universe observing myself!

Why isn't there just a point? This one-ness needs an observer to get self aware. If you feel bored of the state of mind you are in one-ness and actually want to find out what you are! make two of you and watch yourself.
All there is just is, all there could be will be.

Who decides where to take the left turn or right turn?

Sincerely No Clue

a reply to: NoClue

Who is driving the dreambus??
Here is a full length film which asks the same question

a reply to: NoClue

This one is one..... it is aware of itself.
It is observingness/appearance.

No separation...... It is complete.

a reply to: NoClue

The so called physical is what is appearing in plain sight....... the seeing is full of appearance, that includes the body and thoughts and sensations, sounds....... everything.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Look we have been there it gets boring after a while! That is, you have imagination!

If you find something in this state of mind that will be of any help for me or humanity let us know.

Right now from my perspective your a very pretty but rater boring point...

Can you express these ideas in mathematics more precisely geometry?

Because sometimes the ramblings of philosophy is to abstract if not delusional!

Mathematics and especially geometry is very easy for the mind to grasp!

Sincerely No Clue

a reply to: NoClue

The mind has no clue!!!!!

Did you actually hear the 2 minute vid?

THERE IS NO ME!!

a reply to: Itisnowagain

But I want to talk with YOU?

Still No Clue

There is no help for humanity or you!!!!
There is just the appearance of life.

It is right here.

And if numbers are needed to understand.... the number is zero.

There isn't any thing........ except what is appearing/happening.