Need help identifying strange bone. (SOLVED...Pharyngeal Teeth)

My daughter found the below bone behind the neighbors house in their creek. I've never seen anything like it.

I assume its from a common animal, but what animal I have NO idea. My daughter said its from a chupacabra. We live in central Ohio, probably not chupacabra.

I'm hoping the collective minds here at ATS can help us out.












Thanks

a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

I think your daughter could be right.

Either a chupacabra or a mutated deer antler maybe?

Those finger shaped things look like teeth,kind of horse or mammoth(!) teeth with those ridges.
But the other part does not look like a jaw bone...
Darned weird.

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

That's what I keep coming back to - the mammoth, except for the sharp ones. Bizarre. I've looked up the usual North Aercian jawbones and am not finding anything. Hmmm.

a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

Supposedly if you lick a fossil it will stick ever so slightly. It's a very subtle stick thing. Bone won't. Let us know.

a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

Very strange! How big is it? I wish one of the pictures had a reference item in it. Hopfully someone comes along and knows what it is.

a reply to: hiddeninsite

I'm not going to lick that thing. You lick it...lol

It's way too small for mammoth. Its not very big. I should have put a ruler in for scale. I say its probably about the with of a pop can.

Definitely the lower jaw bone of a horse, cow, deer, goat, or sheep.

originally posted by: FauxMulder
a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

Very strange! How big is it? I wish one of the pictures had a reference item in it. Hopfully someone comes along and knows what it is.

Smallish. Id say it's probably about the with of a pop can.

It's the bottom jaw of a goldfish




en.wikipedia.org..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">https...://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharyngeal_teeth
Sorry, can't get the link right on my phone, check wiki for pharyngeal teeth goldfish.

If that thing starts twitching, kill it.

Kill it with fire.

My opinion. Piece of a deer jaw.

EDIT: After looking it up on Google, probably not a deer jaw. Some kind of jawbone, though. Gots teeth in it. Ruminant, probably. Not carnivore.

mdc.mo.gov...

Article above says GRASS CARP.

originally posted by: Nickn3
Definitely the lower jaw bone of a horse, cow, deer, goat, or sheep.

I don't think that's it.

a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

Let's lick it together but don't touch my tongue.

originally posted by: Silcone Synapse
a reply to: SgtHamsandwich

I think your daughter could be right.

Either a chupacabra or a mutated deer antler maybe?

Those finger shaped things look like teeth,kind of horse or mammoth(!) teeth with those ridges.
But the other part does not look like a jaw bone...
Darned weird.

Was thinking exactly the same, sure looks like teeth, but odd spacing, and doesn't really resemble a jaw.

originally posted by: quercusrex
It's the bottom jaw of a goldfish

en.wikipedia.org..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">https...://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharyngeal_teeth
Sorry, can't get the link right on my phone, check wiki for pharyngeal teeth goldfish.

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!!!!

Thats exactly what it is, pharyngeal teeth. Looks to be from a Grass Carp. Its about the right size.

Thank you. My daughter will be excited.

We still want to see you lick it

originally posted by: visitedbythem
We still want to see you lick it

Without the aid of the internet for clues and knowing very little about bones, I could have guessed for 100 years and still would have never even thunk "goldfish".

(and fishkeeping is my hobby!) (not goldfish though in my defence....)

originally posted by: SgtHamsandwich

originally posted by: visitedbythem
We still want to see you lick it

That gut is funny. I like him

a reply to: quercusrex

Well done quercusrex!
I never would have thought a goldfish/carp had teeth at all,let alone as weird looking as that.

According to this website:

www.hiltonpond.org...

The grooves are an adaption of the grass carps teeth,designed to properly munch up the grass it eats.

Nature is amazing the way it always finds the best way to do a particular job.
Mammoths from before the ice age had the same designed teeth for the same reason.
Cows have them too.