Trump administration labelled Inept , Insecure and Incompetent

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: alldaylong

No not at all

I called trump out for that

That’s irrelevant to this uk official saying he thinks trump is bad for doing what he said he would do in his campaign and not going to war with iran

The fact is Trump broke his promise.

Did he not?

Did he? The Syria conflict was already ongoing as he assumed office. We were already involved. He was going to pull out, then the attack happened, necessitating a response of some kind. 59 cruise missiles, vs more personnel and equipment to supplement what was already in the area.

Does it count as a new conflict?

American involvement in Syria was against ISIS. The Cruise Missile attack in April 2017 was directed against the Assad regime.

There is a difference.

Until Assad attacked the "rebels".

Obama vowed to continue supporting the Syrian opposition, as opposed to Assad, especially after the Russians got involved. Therefore, by proxy, we were battling Assad.

Remember the "Red line in the sand" after the initial chemical attack? The only difference is the cruise missile attack was a direct attack against assets Assad used for his attacks.

There is little difference. The conflict with Assad was already in play. So its a stretch to say that Trump broke this promise. You can make the argument, but it might require the moving of goal posts.

a reply to: Kurokage

Are you on another site somewhere criticizing President Xi of China?

Or are you just here putting politics before science ?

Which is something the site you linked to denounces .

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Lumenari

Well obviously your idea of math is diffrent to the sane way of doing math.

Well, common core is pretty bad. So you got us there..

All I asked is why it is the British opinion that Trump is inept.

British is the French word for "crumpet". Which is actually a "jellied eel".

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

You guys are the ones who chose a reality TV star as Prez', who can't make a true statement if he tried most of the time, and spends more time on twitter and golf than on the US presidency. So no it doesn't hurt.

And guess what? He was the best option. That tells you how bad the Democrats are, along with most of the Republicans.

originally posted by: elysiumfire
Well, I'm not sure how or why it happened, but this thread has exploded into invective umbrage. What the hell are you all fighting for? Defending those who care not a jot for you is ridiculous and immature.

One politician states something about another politician isn't for yours or my benefit. It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with us, only the policies they implement towards us matter. Get some perspective! There isn't a single politician in any country that personally cares for the citizens of his or her country.

You and I are just trying to live out our lives the best we can, but politicians, with their policies, keep interjecting into our lives, making it harder for us to follow our individual and independent way. Stop fighting over politicians, because they don't fight over you, they just use and mention you in debates to score points against each other. You and I are just incidental to their plans, and in individual terms, each of us are more than expendable to them. When do politicians fight the wars they start? They don't, they have your sons and daughters in the military fight for them. We no longer fight wars out of moral reasons, they are now fought out of resource and business reasons. If you are okay with that, then fair enough.

All politicians deserve our distrust, our criticisms, our denial of their vision. They deserve our resistance to whatever they want to implement. They are supposed to be checked and balanced in their machinations, but they are not, certainly not for the right reasons. So incestuous is the act of greasing their palms with each other, that I don't think there's a politician who actually knows which group he is supposed to belong to? Red and Blue are just illusions, and I find it despairing that so many still fall for the crap as being a choice they have.

In fact, calling them politicians is a misnomer, we should just call them for what they actually are...sociopaths with little in common with the likes of you and I.

Wow.

a reply to: butcherguy

According to the job description these guys rub elbows with just about everybody in DC.
They are paid to listen on behalf of the UK Govt.
People talk. At parties, at functions, at meetings. Everybody has a story to tell.



PS it should be noted that the UK is denying these memos.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Imagine how much more golf he could get in if he didn't have so many people looking over his shoulder.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I'm sure there's one somewhere.

We should check YouTube.

Heres a site that lists 110 failures in just the first two years. Beware it lists some things he considers his achievements as failures.
www.washingtonexaminer.com...

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: butcherguy

According to the job description these guys rub elbows with just about everybody in DC.
They are paid to listen on behalf of the UK Govt.
People talk. At parties, at functions, at meetings. Everybody has a story to tell.



PS it should be noted that the UK is denying these memos.

Are they?

Last I saw they hadn't disputed them but just said they don't necessarily reflect the views of the government.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Well I’d vote for someone else in 2020 if I were you and I’d ditch the MAGA hat.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Something along those lines yes.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Gag me with a spoon.

a reply to: ScepticScot

I don’t really care if the U.K. thinks us a nation of doofuses just as long as you keep Cricket over on your side of the pond. I could never understand that game.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ScepticScot

I don’t really care if the U.K. thinks us a nation of doofuses just as long as you keep Cricket over on your side of the pond. I could never understand that game.

You are talking to someone from the wrong side of the border if you want an argument about cricket.

The reason you don't understand it is because it's a stupid pointless boring game that exists only to make things like crown green bowling seem interesting in comparison.

originally posted by: elysiumfire
Well, I'm not sure how or why it happened, but this thread has exploded into invective umbrage. What the hell are you all fighting for? Defending those who care not a jot for you is ridiculous and immature.

One politician states something about another politician isn't for yours or my benefit. It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with us, only the policies they implement towards us matter. Get some perspective! There isn't a single politician in any country that personally cares for the citizens of his or her country.

You and I are just trying to live out our lives the best we can, but politicians, with their policies, keep interjecting into our lives, making it harder for us to follow our individual and independent way. Stop fighting over politicians, because they don't fight over you, they just use and mention you in debates to score points against each other. You and I are just incidental to their plans, and in individual terms, each of us are more than expendable to them. When do politicians fight the wars they start? They don't, they have your sons and daughters in the military fight for them. We no longer fight wars out of moral reasons, they are now fought out of resource and business reasons. If you are okay with that, then fair enough.

All politicians deserve our distrust, our criticisms, our denial of their vision. They deserve our resistance to whatever they want to implement. They are supposed to be checked and balanced in their machinations, but they are not, certainly not for the right reasons. So incestuous is the act of greasing their palms with each other, that I don't think there's a politician who actually knows which group he is supposed to belong to? Red and Blue are just illusions, and I find it despairing that so many still fall for the crap as being a choice they have.

In fact, calling them politicians is a misnomer, we should just call them for what they actually are...sociopaths with little in common with the likes of you and I.

Post of the year!! should be mandatory reading

Well, these were leaked memos, they were not something that he said in public, the memos were meant for certain people, people who may have felt that they wanted to hear stuff like that. Has he come out and said that in public? If people knew what others said about them in private, there would be civil unrest throughout this country. Be careful what you say in front of Alexa or Google, maybe it will come back to haunt you in the future, and never write down something about someone if you do not want it leaked, because evidently leaks are happening worldwide now. Five years ago, leaks would have been silenced by our and other governments, in another three or four years, people will be going to prison for leaking out government material that has not been approved to be publicized. The Democrats and others like them are setting the stage for total suppression of information in our society. They are going to smash freedom of speech and freedom of press because of exploited leaks and hacking. It seems that the people buying this leaked information are the ones that should be imprisoned, some of the stuff is classified. No buyer, no reason to steal the information. If people think that this personal info is ok to be public, they should consider if all of our personal information, including financial transactions and account numbers, should be public. Should the insurance companies have access to everything about you when buying health insurance and base their rates on your family history?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ScepticScot

I don’t really care if the U.K. thinks us a nation of doofuses just as long as you keep Cricket over on your side of the pond. I could never understand that game.

You are talking to someone from the wrong side of the border if you want an argument about cricket.

The reason you don't understand it is because it's a stupid pointless boring game that exists only to make things like crown green bowling seem interesting in comparison.

I'm on the other side of the border and I agree with you.

originally posted by: Kurokage

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ScepticScot

I don’t really care if the U.K. thinks us a nation of doofuses just as long as you keep Cricket over on your side of the pond. I could never understand that game.

You are talking to someone from the wrong side of the border if you want an argument about cricket.

The reason you don't understand it is because it's a stupid pointless boring game that exists only to make things like crown green bowling seem interesting in comparison.

I'm on the other side of the border and I agree with you.

Is that allowed? I thought liking cricket, warm beer and midsummer murders was compulsory.

a reply to: Wardaddy454

I don’t have the means at my disposal to become a doctor...
Being born poor does that to people.

That doesn’t negate the fact that I do have the knowledge necessary for such an ability.
As well as personal experience with actual dementia patients.