5G Technician Reveals The Damage He Believes 5G Will Cause

a reply to: waftist

"from the guy installing it"

AKA a highschool dropout. tower climbers and installers have almost no technical knowledge of how this stuff works, they tighten bolts and screw in Coax jumpers.

its like taking info on air traffic control from the baggage handlers.

Get me an RF engineer then i'll be impressed.

a reply to: hombero

exactly!!! get me an RF engineer then you can color me impressed.

its literally a case of "i dont understand it so its evil" this blatant attitude woke me up to a bunch of other B/S "conspiracies" that are just grounding in ignorance of how things work.

a reply to: odzeandennz

Well it’s the same kinda tech, microwave ovens did kill when sick bastards put cats In them. 5g uses far less power though so it might be fine

Trust the government, trust the corporations they never get anything wrong and only have our best interests at heart. Also roundup makes a good alternative to deodorant.

originally posted by: smkymcnugget420
a reply to: hombero

exactly!!! get me an RF engineer then you can color me impressed.

its literally a case of "i dont understand it so its evil" this blatant attitude woke me up to a bunch of other B/S "conspiracies" that are just grounding in ignorance of how things work.

It is being done ninja style just like the implementation of GMO Food. There is a plan and a purpose, they want the "every 500 ft" everywhere towers and they need them NOW. People will be ok with it as they are with anything and everything now. The ones on all the treads telling everyone how stupid we are for our logical fear are working for the

U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in opposition to FCC Docket Numbers 17-79 and 15-180, which would allow streamlined approval of 5G infrastructure to be built on existing utility poles, in greater number than current cellular antennas. The group is comprised of over 225 reputable scientists from 41 countries who have peer reviewed publications on electromagnetic fields.

"FCC is urging an accelerated deployment schedule for the 5th generation wireless infrastructure, to be installed pervasively throughout the United States. This is being done without public health review of the growing body of scientific evidence that includes reports of increasing rates of cancer and neurological diseases that may be caused by exposure to EMF from wireless sources."
The scientists went on to say: "Numerous recent scientific publications have shown that EMF affects living organisms at levels well below most international and national guidelines." These effects can include an increased cancer risk, genetic damage, structural and functional changes to the reproductive system, learning and memory deficits, and neurological disorders.

interestingengineering.com...

a reply to: smkymcnugget420

I know right, like the people who doubted the official version on how Kennedy was shot with that magic bullet, and those that couldn’t believe buildings could fall in such a way from office fires. Those crazy conspiracy guys!

You don’t know of a site where I can discuss politics for a change do you? Preferably in a really hateful and spiteful way with those I don’t agree with?

Pfft

originally posted by: waftist

originally posted by: Mandroid7
I saw a Verizon commercial last night.
They specifically said 5g will be used by doctors to cure cancer.

Not even joking

Doublespeak perhaps?

Verizon Claims 5G Will Help Fight Cancer
Hmmm, well I do think the connectivity and speed will be of benefit to numerous technologies including medical, but I am still concerned with residual effects and uncertainties regarding safety.

To prevent atrial fibrillation you can use amiodarone, which just happens to have atrial fibrillation as a side effect. To decrease depression, they use celaris, Xanax, Prozac, etc, that has a side effect of depression and suicide. It therefore stands to reason, by the track record, that 5g will be used to fight cancer and as a side effect will cause cancer.

Cheers - Dave

So many folks live in the Dark Ages , even though this is the 21st Century
6 decades and I have heard this same crap about every single piece of new tech coming out .
Its the Mark of the Beast
It will be used for mind control
It is the Antichrist
It will kill us all

Some folks don't understand technology and/or fear it .
Some just fall under the "Wizard's First Rule" (from the book by Terry Goodkind)
They believe anything is true , because they want to.

Actually 5G in its current inception is less harmful than the older technologies.
Low power. .2 to 200 watts. It takes just over 4180 watts to boil water.
Low latency and fast data transmission. Up to 430M bits per second.
Millimeter wave length, which has less penetration capabilities.
Small cells requiring minimal power to operate.
Over 20 times greater capacity than current technology. This means it will handle more devices concurrently.
Beamforming that allows higher data transfer for multiple users.
Full duplex, which can handle outgoing and incoming data simultaneously.

The privacy issue may be compromised because the system will make it easier to determine the location of each individual device, ie. advertising.

In this Senate hearing it came out there have been zero industry funded studies on the health implications of this all.

I think the answer is they don't know and also that all these so called studies activist sites claim exist, probably do not exist, so the other side does not know either. They all just parrot each other without actually linking to anything or providing where the studies can be found.

Both sides seem to be not exactly honest in this. I'll remain neutral until someone can cite an actual peer reviewed study by linking directly to it.

The industry does not want to know and the activists just pretend they know.

a reply to: Blaine91555

I agree and it is surprising the industry has spent zero dollars, which only leaves one to speculate as to why. Is it deemed unnecessary and if so why? Do they not want evidence of potential harm made known? I would think such studies would be part of R and D process and of value, so that one could determine what, if any disclaimers and warnings to create.
This reminds me of a mentality another giant industry once held...big tobacco.

The industry does not want to know and the activists just pretend they know.

Well said and I think there lies something of significance in between there somewhere, and for me at this point, the uncertainty of it all is enough to warrant further investigation/tests before unleashing it on the world.

I still think Dr. Sharon Goldberg's testimony has the most weight, not necessarily for absolute evidence, but for the most compelling analysis regarding biological impact.


Thank you for your input

a reply to: smkymcnugget420

I think the point was not that the technician is sn expert in rf waves, but that the industry has successfully averted proper studies in the first place, thus we could not be certain of the effects, but the potential fir negative side effects does exist.

You have to figure the same people have said the same stuff about everything that came before it and the world population is still growing exponentially. It must not be all that unhealthy for humans. We seem to be doing something that really makes more humans happen.

5g the internet of things will see the introduction of a multitude of smart devices, it may be hard for you to imagine but even cell phones may become obsolete. I have a feeling although this is true the love people have for them will keep them around for quite some time.
It will connect the world and people in an entirely new fashion, and it’s true that it will effect many things in a positive ways the field of medicine should see significant advancement for one. But aside from proposed possible side effects that will not be known until it is everywhere even then wouldn’t be admitted to anyway. But the most frightening things to me about it’s capability is for everyone everywhere to be fully recognized and tracked in real time with pinpoint accuracy, not to mention the full time video and audio invasion of your privacy...
So when it is here there and everywhere remember to smile cause we’re watching you...

originally posted by: Mandroid7
I saw a Verizon commercial last night.
They specifically said 5g will be used by doctors to cure cancer.

Not even joking

And while they do cure it that way, Monkey's will probably be climbing out their butts.

originally posted by: Jubei42
I don't know about all the potential dangers of EMF, but I looked up how much energy these 5G FR2(24Ghz and higher, aka the mmWave) cells put out.
And it's not alot, outputs for outdoor cells vary from 200 to 20,000 mW. Or 0.2 to 20 Watts Wiki Source

1 Watt equals 1 Joule per second. At standard atmospheric pressure the energy required to raise 1 kg of water from 19.5˚C to 20.5˚C is 4182 J.

Well, nice to have someone around who has the ability to discuss this with us logically.

I am not a Physicist but I am a Chemist/Biologist working as an Environmental Scientist now. I do feel like this can't be too bad or my Physicist buddies would be on it like bad smell on SF CA streets.

I see no reason at the moment to believe the Doom Porn, but I do see it is logical we find some of these studies on any possible impacts.

More like some entrenched telecom monopolies dont want to invest in this so theyre seeding fud about the tech. Easier to spread doom and gloom than compete

No where in that article did they touch on what mechanism could 5g possibly harm a person.

Non ionizing! low energy!

The tech is the only person who comes close enough to the tower transmitter for it to be an issue. Standing directly underneath it is not an issue. The transmitter in your phone is not an issue.

So stupid.

a reply to: waftist

The way you know this is false (outside of a basic understanding of radation) is that they're installing it in liberal cities first. No way the elite let their brainwashed sheep in those cities die or become maimed/disabled.

Not sure about 5G and its effects and how it can be misused.

But I do know having 5G relays and satellites every where, like an insane amount of them compared to current phone towers, will make the life of those whose job it is to stealthily backdoor access peoples smart devices and use them against their owners as surveillance devices much easier.

Every good streamer knows. It's all about the speed and bandwidth baby.
Can't stream at 4K on 56k dial up.

Must suck being a letter agency and trying to get good footage and audio from someone's phone when it's a pixelated mess because 3G and 4G.
This will ensure such footage is much much clearer than every ghost and ufo video ever made I reckon.


Nice to think those we pay to control us are doing such things. Let's elect them all again next election and keep it going.

I wanted to add some perspective from one of our fellow members who responded to my inquiry in the Ask Any Question You Want About Physics thread, a great read BTW. I value Arbitrageur's knowledge and perspective and am grateful for his response.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur a reply to: waftist

I've seen the fear mongering about 5G. I don't claim to have all the answers but I do know something about the topic. Bottom line is I think the higher frequencies in 5G are probably safer, and 5G can use the same frequencies used in weaponized crowd control though I don't see that as a bad thing.

Let's start with the current 4G technology which I think uses frequencies from about 0.6 GHz to 6 GHz. There are conflicting reports about its safety, but the biggest concern I have after researching the topic is that all the smart phone manufacturers seem to realize there's a problem with smart phones giving off too much radiation if you mash them against the side of your head while talking on them, so they put in their instructions to not do that but keep some minimum distance between your head and the smart phone. That distance varies by manufacturer and possibly by device (higher power devices may suggest a larger distance). The problem as you might guess is that almost nobody even reads the instructions so most people aren't aware they are supposed to keep a minimum space between the phone and their head.

There have been cases where people got brain tumors in a spot near where they held the phone against their head for long times, being heavy users of the technology, so that would be my biggest concern. Possibly anecdotal to some extent though safety studies have conflicting results, so I think the manufacturer's recommendations for minimum distance need to be followed. The second biggest concern might be if you were a technician servicing cell tower antennas that were powered on, your exposure can also be quite high being way closer to the antennas than the general public.

So that was 4G, now let's talk about 5G. It can use the same frequencies as 4G, plus some higher frequencies, so the total frequency range is expanded from the same low end as 4G to a much higher high end. The higher the frequencies, the less they can penetrate conductors and your body is partially conductive. So I actually see the higher frequencies used by 5G as a good thing from a safety perspective, since I'm happy that they can't penetrate very far into my body. If there really was a link between the people getting brain tumors near where they held their 4G phone up to their head (I don't know if the claimed link is real), it would be because those frequencies were penetrating into the brain and causing some cells to get damaged in the brain. The higher frequencies in 5G can't penetrate as far.

At the frequencies of 35 GHz (I think for now the 5G implementations are approximately in this range) and 94 GHz (approximately what the crowd control weapon uses, but future 5G implementations can and probably will use something near this), if the radiation resulted in some kind of cancer, I think would be less likely to penetrate to the brain and would affect the skin instead, which I think is a whole lot easier to deal with than brain cancer. There have been a few injuries from the weaponized crowd control devices using frequencies like 95 GHz, but again they are skin effects, like burns. If that crowd control weapon is aimed at you, you'll feel like your skin is on fire. Usually the test subjects haven't got actual skin burns from getting that sensation, because as soon as they move away from the device the burning sensation stops and their skin is ok, but in a couple of cases the subjects actually got burned skin. That is a known risk if you get too much of those 5G frequencies, though I never heard of anyone getting a skin burn from 5G like they have from the weaponized crowd control.

Whether long term exposure at lower power levels of 5G frequencies might cause skin tumors I don't know, but but those frequencies actually have been researched for effects on animal tissue, contrary to some claims floating around. Here are some references to the research, and the paper titled "Lack of effect of 94-GHz radio frequency radiation exposure in an animal model of skin carcinogenesis" suggests the study didn't find skin cancer from that frequency, but it can definitely burn your skin at high power levels. I'm really not expecting to see people get burned skin from 5G, though there's a slim chance you might get skin burns if you got too close to a crowd control weapon at similar frequency.

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Lol

Title should read

CABLEGUY THINKS HE KNOWS THE INNER WORKINGS OF 5G

those plugs make me believe him moar.