HUGE - President Obama's DNI Says Obama Himself Gave The Order to SPY On Donald Trump.

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When will ATS be cool again? Many of us dont care about the left vs right political stuff..

a reply to: rickymouse

Wait... what did she do that was not legal?

a reply to: SouthernForkway26

Its not to big to sweep away when its a complete fantasy made up by trump.

Like the issue at the border.

Or the issue with Iran.


Or the issue with tariffs.

You know..... Problems he creates so he alone can solve them?

Its all bull.
He's just a showman.
Smoke and mirrors.

There is a reason that two and a half years in nothing has happened to anyone in Obamas administration or to Clinton.
The reason is there's nothing there.

a reply to: face23785

Not if they keep pushing farther and farther left and forcing more and more people to the middle or the right. There aren't many who want to be thrown in with the embarrassment the left have become. We see them in the media and hollywood and gathered up to protest any view they're intolerant to. Everyone else sits back and watches while other members of the left are left embarrassed and looking for a quiet way out.

If I would have been cursed a liberal, I would constantly be reacting like this at everything they say:




To ignore it is a silent admission that you couldn't care less about anything around you as long as you get what you want. It's like a fat kid eating an ice cream cone outside in the middle of a heat wave with his shoes untied. Take his cone... See what he does.

a reply to: xuenchen

Yeah and?

And trump said Russia if you're listening.

So the # what?

a reply to: carewemust

he scandal that protected Hillary from Prosecution

what scandal would that be? Prosecution for what?

a reply to: LSU2018

I certainly agree they're doing great damage to the party. Moderates and just straight up normal people are completely turned off by what it has become. But there are so many people who are so invested in that ideology there's no turning back. It's basically replaced religion for them.

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: face23785


To ignore it is a silent admission that you couldn't care less about anything around you as long as you get what you want.

Unfortunately that describes a lot of people.

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Boadicea

If Barr and Durham don't do anything about it, then you are correct, it won't matter what crimes were committed.

We'll just vote for a democrat in 2020 and try to get as much free stuff as we can.

Bite your tongue! (Or smack your keyboard maybe?) We can do better than that!!!

If people begin to understand that no one is going to save us except ourselves, we'll stop putting all our faith in voting for the "best" people and start voting for ourselves, and our own power, and taking power away government. Maybe a national strike... protests at every capitol in the nation??? A new Contract with America... but this time we make the demands and our candidates either pledge to support it or not.

Bo, we only need stay within our own sphere of influence. I think that means instead of protesting in the streets like Antifa and other Fascist wanting to shut peoples free speech down for their beliefs, VERY UNCONSTITUTIONAL, we need to be one on one with our neighbors and friends with provable facts. That is our challenge, our sphere of influence.

a reply to: LSU2018

Most american are liberals. Sorry Charlie.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Sillyolme

Schumer kept repeating and repeating and repeating over and over and over ...

Bastard is Deep State !!!!!!!

Exposed !!!! 💥🎱💥

Schumer warns Trump: Intel officials 'have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you' (January 03, 2017)

Now THAT is some messed up poop there. Well worth remembering.

a reply to: Justoneman

Bo, we only need stay within our own sphere of influence. I think that means instead of protesting in the streets like Antifa and other Fascist wanting to shut peoples free speech down for their beliefs, VERY UNCONSTITUTIONAL, we need to be one on one with our neighbors and friends with provable facts. That is our challenge, our sphere of influence.

Excellent point -- the best way to counter the divide-and-conquer campaign against us is to do exactly the opposite! We do need to find common ground... the happy medium... the proverbial "compromise" that has become a bad word...

And I really don't want to parse words or be argumentative, but that's the "how" -- not the "what." We have to reform/restore the balance of power between the Feds, the States and the People. We can only do that by coming together and working together for the greater common good; i.e., demanding specific reforms or else.

Otherwise, it's just a big pity party and bitchfest. We can complain and commiserate together all we want, but it has to be more than that. We have to agree upon and pursue -- DEMAND! -- specific reforms.

originally posted by: tabularosa
The FBI did not spy on Donald Trump. That is fake news, promulgated by Team Trump. All those who believe that fell for it.

(Rod Serling voice in the background)

"But Tabularosa didn't know she was living in the Twilight Zone until it was too late"

/s

Good lord that has to be some major TDS. The facts are in and it was not a hoax.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: LSU2018

Most american are liberals. Sorry Charlie.

Wrong -- even given your use of the vague and nondescript term "liberals". The greatest percentage of US citizens are independent or unaffiliated, and probably tend to lean "liberal" on social issues and "conservative" on fiscal issues.

According to the long-running Gallop polling, for the period 2019 May 1-12:

Republicans: 30%
Independents: 38%
Democrats 31%

For the prior two-week period:

Republicans: 29%
Independents: 40%
Democrats 29%

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: LSU2018

Most american are liberals. Sorry Charlie.

Wrong -- even given your use of the vague and nondescript term "liberals". The greatest percentage of US citizens are independent or unaffiliated, and probably tend to lean "liberal" on social issues and "conservative" on fiscal issues.

According to the long-running Gallop polling, for the period 2019 May 1-12:

Republicans: 30%
Independents: 38%
Democrats 31%

For the prior two-week period:

Republicans: 29%
Independents: 40%
Democrats 29%

Not to mention that "liberal" isn't even an accurate label for the authoritarian far-"left" nutjobs that are running today's Democrat party. Actual liberals are hard to come by over there these days.

ETA:

Those numbers are brutal. Democrats used to have a 5 or 6 point advantage among the registered electorate.

How much you wanna bet the media continue to oversample Democrats when they do their "polls"?

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Justoneman

Bo, we only need stay within our own sphere of influence. I think that means instead of protesting in the streets like Antifa and other Fascist wanting to shut peoples free speech down for their beliefs, VERY UNCONSTITUTIONAL, we need to be one on one with our neighbors and friends with provable facts. That is our challenge, our sphere of influence.

Excellent point -- the best way to counter the divide-and-conquer campaign against us is to do exactly the opposite! We do need to find common ground... the happy medium... the proverbial "compromise" that has become a bad word...

And I really don't want to parse words or be argumentative, but that's the "how" -- not the "what." We have to reform/restore the balance of power between the Feds, the States and the People. We can only do that by coming together and working together for the greater common good; i.e., demanding specific reforms or else.

Otherwise, it's just a big pity party and bitchfest. We can complain and commiserate together all we want, but it has to be more than that. We have to agree upon and pursue -- DEMAND! -- specific reforms.

We do have to come together and the best way to find common ground is on common truths. Phage should be on board but keeps playing for the known liars IMO.

a reply to: face23785

Not to mention that "liberal" isn't even an accurate label for the authoritarian far-"left" nutjobs that are running today's Democrat party. Actual liberals are hard to come by over there these days.

Yup -- ^^^truth!!! The media and the political critters have done a darn good job of hiding it (mostly by refusing to address is), but the truth is that the left is imploding and in large part because of the nutjobs. Antifa, BAMN, pussy hats, illegals and H1B Visa holders taking jobs from citizens, "trans women are really women"... the lists of betrayals just goes on and on. Hence the laser focus on "orange man bad," eh?

ETA: Those numbers are brutal. Democrats used to have a 5 or 6 point advantage among the registered electorate.

How much you wanna bet the media continue to oversample Democrats when they do their "polls"?

It's really sad. And infuriating. But yeah, over-sampling is all they've got at this point. And we're just supposed to admire the Emperor's New Clothes...

a reply to: Justoneman

We do have to come together and the best way to find common ground is on common truths.

That's very well said and a really great perspective... I hope you don't mind when I steal that

Common truths are the best place to start.

originally posted by: Phage

And the best part...
4) It was the firing of James Comey which directly caused the appointment of Muellar.

Somewhat true, Trump has even said "“I might even lengthen out the investigation” with Comey's firing, but Trump also thought everyone including the left would cheer the firing and on that he miscalculated as the original Senate testimonies etc was actually on Hilary's hacked emails and not Trump/Russian collusion. In the end it was still most likely good Comey was fired and Mueliar took over as flaky as Comey acted in many areas.

Both Sessions nor Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein raised any concerns about Comey’s firing. Comey was fired by Trump because on a number of occasions Comey lied and did some shady things, so ya he pissed off Trump.

originally posted by: Boadicea

Wrong -- even given your use of the vague and nondescript term "liberals". The greatest percentage of US citizens are independent or unaffiliated, and probably tend to lean "liberal" on social issues and "conservative" on fiscal issues.

According to the long-running Gallop polling, for the period 2019 May 1-12:

Republicans: 30%
Independents: 38%
Democrats 31%

For the prior two-week period:

Republicans: 29%
Independents: 40%
Democrats 29%

To back this up with the last election results.

28% voted for Hillary
27% voted for Trump
44% didn't vote for neither

Funny how that all matches up. As we move into the next election we have 44% that may not vote again or might look at where the democrat party is going with people like AOC and say Hmmm Trump doesn't look so bad now compared to that and he actually did good these last 4 years.

We will see.

a reply to: Fallingdown

Fallingdown you are 100% correct. I just have to tell you Phage is one of the top ATS'ers in meaning Above Top Skeptic. I think this person was a debater in school at some point. He is good and could probably sell the socks to ya off your own feet. As for silly this person is another top ATS'er in the meaning Above Top Socialist. Silly will argue until all breath is gone and turns blue. You could show film of the events happening of all the perpetrators and Phage will claim its photoshop and silly well just would not believe you as the narrative and Marxist attack must continue.

The inherent problem is that the deep state has the upper hand at the moment. Deep state backs the Clintons, Obama, DNC and Republican rhinos who want to in some way alter our course away from freedom and the Constitution. This will take time and Trump may take one step forward but those around him supply the two steps back. President Trump once said at a rally be patient. This will take time as Obama's Marxist court appointees and others will put up the fight you are witnessing. Keep up the good fight!!!