Atlantis has been discovered?!

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Hanslune

Then, please share with us what you believe the circle with rivers coming out of it is referring to. Don't leave us haning, Slung

So your asking me a question to deflect away from my point? So, first of all do you acknowledge or do you counter that the Piri Reis map image of the 'circle' is NOT in the position where the site actually is?

Deflect? Hardly. All I'm asking you to do is replace one possibility, with what you consider the circle with lines, represents. If your going to shoot down one balloon, then please replace it with another. Otherwise your just not being constructive, Brother.

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Hanslune

Then, please share with us what you believe the circle with rivers coming out of it is referring to. Don't leave us haning, Slung

So your asking me a question to deflect away from my point? So, first of all do you acknowledge or do you counter that the Piri Reis map image of the 'circle' is NOT in the position where the site actually is?

Deflect? Hardly. All I'm asking you to do is replace one possibility, with what you consider the circle with lines, represents. If your going to shoot down one balloon, then please replace it with another. Otherwise your just not being constructive, Brother.

Yawn, you're going to have to come up with your own balloon. One does have to ask a question. Why didn't you look at a map to see if your claim was possible? I mean it took me about 3 minutes to see it wasn't in the right location so - why did you make no effort to confirm your initial idea?

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Hanslune

Then, please share with us what you believe the circle with rivers coming out of it is referring to. Don't leave us haning, Slung

So your asking me a question to deflect away from my point? So, first of all do you acknowledge or do you counter that the Piri Reis map image of the 'circle' is NOT in the position where the site actually is?

Deflect? Hardly. All I'm asking you to do is replace one possibility, with what you consider the circle with lines, represents. If your going to shoot down one balloon, then please replace it with another. Otherwise your just not being constructive, Brother.

Yawn, you're going to have to come up with your own balloon. One does have to ask a question. Why didn't you look at a map to see if your claim was possible? I mean it took me about 3 minutes to see it wasn't in the right location so - why did you make no effort to confirm your initial idea?

What makes you think, I didn't?


So, what do you think of all those wild and crazy flood runoff patterns on the Eye? As a example, I give you two other "Eyes" in Africa, that do not display the "Erosion" that is displayed on the Richat Structure? They are on the boarder of Lybia and Sudan. No crazy erosion patterns.




Considering all the Ruins in the area, and general area, I believe my "claim" is not only possible, but very very probable.

You will note that there is a great deal of digging in the area that is signified by all the White tents in the area. Hundreds. Just because it is not headline news, yet, does not mean it isnt there. The phyiscal evidence dictates there was a very large society in the area, a long time ago. Just because you refuse to see that, well, Brother, you really need to open your eyes, and look.

25 miles to the north is a area that also has large building blocks strewn about. There are also many white tents, which I believe cover "Other" finds, remains, etc. 21°29'4.20"N 11°20'28.13"W



All and all, give or take, there are some 40 or 50 of these rather large blocks.







The area also display's ancient roads as well. Again looking to have been hand made, that lead to nowhere, from, nowhere.


Who ever is "excavating" or researching the area, by the looks of it, have designated an area by marks in the sand. These marks seem to designate "Where" a rather large structure once stood. I call this area the "Visitor Center".





To the north of the "Visitor Center" is a ruin/ abandonment 32 miles from the center of the "Eye" and only 7 miles from the Visitor Center.
21°35'5.78"N 11°17'25.07"W It appears to be a "Out Post".



To the South of the Visitor Center is another "Out Post" just 23 miles from the Eye. 21°25'2.24"N 11°13'34.03"W

a reply to: All Seeing Eye


I'm not sure what you are getting at here? First you claim that the Richat Structure is Atlantis, now you're saying it could be these other places. It could very well be Libya itself that is Atlantis. The whole country looks to fit the bill as Atlantis (minus the water of course)

To top this off, Herodotus said that Libya was one of the major continents along with Asia and Europe. If 9000 years had passed since it's fall, then Maybe Atlantis was renamed to Libya during that time (you know in order to not offend the gods) As I pointed out earlier:

One thing that should be considered is that Atlantis may have been a regional name for this place, or even an old name (like New Amsterdam/New York or Istanbul/Constantinople).

At this point even you, All Seeing Eye, seem to be rethinking this Richat Strructure equals Atlantis idea. Is this an evolution in thought, or acceptance of possibilites? Either way thinking outside the box is good to further the discussion.

a reply to: Guyfriday

At this point even you, All Seeing Eye, seem to be rethinking this Richat Strructure equals Atlantis idea. Is this an evolution in thought, or acceptance of possibilites? Either way thinking outside the box is good to further the discussion.

A 9000 year old story, retold 2000 years ago. It must be given great leeway, and much salt. In 12,000 years it will be said "Washington" was a great land, as large as Europe and China combined. Really? But today we know Washington is the capital city of the United States. No difference in what we discuss about "Atlantis". The City Island was the Capital, but the holdings of this city were also called "Atlantis". The confusion comes from lack of direct knowledge. Besides, the vast majority of the people were not educated in "Geography" as we are today, their world view was extremely limited. Nor did they have the assets of Google Earth, or Satellite Pro. They simply knew what they were told, if anything, and that, is very similar to today...


The other "Eyes" in Africa are only showed to give some idea as to what "Normal" erosion would look like. I still maintain the Richat to be the location of the capital city known as Atlantis, and is known by other names, and other languages. There actually are original, pre flood ruins there, you just have to understand the type of "Flooding" that occurred. Then, they become plain as day. I will get to that, later.

The Evidence I have provided is outside the box, dont you think? I believe I have established beyond a reasonable doubt that there is more than enough infustructure in the surrounding area to support a city as described in Plato's retelling of "Atlantis". I have demostrated that the erosion in the Eye is not what would be considered "Normal" in the box thinking.


I try to consider as many possibilites, as possible, to include those things thought of as, impossible. And that, is definatly, outside the "box" . I constantly "rethink", its how one finds the boarders, to the box...

21.537184,-10.586981

It's a channel dug into the earth. Probably collects and directs water flow from higher elevations.

21.660036,-10.574377

This is in the same area. It's maybe a dam of some sort in an area that could be a reservoir.

21.640380,-10.590167

Same area.

20.317800,-12.938218

On the West side of the Eye. A channel. 15+ km long. Again from higher elevation to lower. Controlling water.

en-us.topographic-map.com...

If you want to check into the elevation of the Eye and surrounding areas, use this.

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

What makes you think, I didn't?

Still refuse to admit you conclusion was wrong huh? Chuckle

Because you didn't - evidence of that is clear you simply made an assumption or worse - you simply believed what someone else told you to believe without checking, tsk tsk.

Considering all the Ruins in the area, and general area, I believe my "claim" is not only possible, but very very probable.

Which claim? That the PR map shows 'Atlantis" nope debunked not even close

The claim that there are ruins in Africa?

Well yeah people have been living there for hundreds of thousands of years one would expect ruins. There ARE ruins there just zero evidence they have anything to do with 'Atlantis'.

You will note that there is a great deal of digging in the area that is signified by all the White tents in the area. Hundreds. Just because it is not headline news, yet, does not mean it isnt there. The phyiscal evidence dictates there was a very large society in the area, a long time ago. Just because you refuse to see that, well, Brother, you really need to open your eyes, and look.

Ruins can build up over time - see the concept of Tells. You have no idea of the dates on those structures - wishful thinking is not science but fantasy.

Seriously the French would have done surveys and excavations in that area during the 19th and early 20th century - have you checked the literature? Of course you haven't why do research when you make stuff up right?

a reply to: LevinHurtin

Water management was a big deal in this area. "Separating the waters from above, from the waters below".


I have seen the term "sluices" used when describing this City. I'm not saying it as fact, but they may have had water locks to control shipping to and from the Island City. And of course, canals

Great Contribution! en-us.topographic-map.com...

Thank you for your input.

a reply to: LevinHurtin

Water management was a big deal in this area. "Separating the waters from above, from the waters below".


I have seen the term "sluices" used when describing this City. I'm not saying it as fact, but they may have had water locks to control shipping to and from the Island City. And of course, canals

Great Contribution! en-us.topographic-map.com...

Thank you for your input.

a reply to: Hanslune

Also, it would immensely strange if there were not old ruins in the area. There are 2 old towns around the area of the eye that are UNESCO world heritage sites - in an area that was on the African trade network for salt and gold. This network created far more wealth than any other trade network at the time - so there should be old roads, staging posts, etc all ober that area.

This is something that seems to be continually ignored by certain members though........for whatever reason.

The next discovery is of a medium size village, road segments, and switchback. Nick name "Suburb" 21° 0'19.61"N 11°34'36.89"W




The Village sits on top of a mesa directly west of the "eye" approx. 8 miles from the Southern entrance.
No signs of excavation or vehicular travel. No signs of game trails. No signs of use of any kind. The remnents of roads within the village are observable, as are the rubble piles that were once used for the buildings.

The road segment does not appear to have been used since the village was destroyed. The Segment can be found between the village and the switchback at 21° 0'30.45"N 11°34'15.59"W



The switchback also shows no signs of usage by vehicles, game, or "Camel Caravans". 21° 0'36.47"N 11°34'11.11"W


The end of the switchback goes off under the sand in a general direction to another possible roadway just outside the eye within a fenced off area. 21° 2'38.96"N 11°31'15.53"W



If there was a City within the eye, then this village would have been one of the primary suppliers to the City Island. But then, that's just my opinion.

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: LevinHurtin

Water management was a big deal in this area. "Separating the waters from above, from the waters below".


I have seen the term "sluices" used when describing this City. I'm not saying it as fact, but they may have had water locks to control shipping to and from the Island City. And of course, canals

Great Contribution! en-us.topographic-map.com...

Thank you for your input.

Yes, sleuces and locks seem right. But canals, dams, channels, ditches, reservoirs, water slides, hot tubs - looks like they had it all!

originally posted by: Flavian
a reply to: Hanslune

Also, it would immensely strange if there were not old ruins in the area. There are 2 old towns around the area of the eye that are UNESCO world heritage sites - in an area that was on the African trade network for salt and gold. This network created far more wealth than any other trade network at the time - so there should be old roads, staging posts, etc all ober that area.

This is something that seems to be continually ignored by certain members though........for whatever reason.

Absolutely - but lets not disturb them while their playing make believe....lol

originally posted by: LevinHurtin

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: LevinHurtin

Water management was a big deal in this area. "Separating the waters from above, from the waters below".


I have seen the term "sluices" used when describing this City. I'm not saying it as fact, but they may have had water locks to control shipping to and from the Island City. And of course, canals

Great Contribution! en-us.topographic-map.com...

Thank you for your input.

Yes, sleuces and locks seem right. But canals, dams, channels, ditches, reservoirs, water slides, hot tubs - looks like they had it all!

I guess they did, but not in the fashion of today. I know Plato made a big point telling how advanced they were, but when you look at the ruins, modesty is foremost. Except for maybe, the Palace's. But we will never know as they were completely blown into oblivion.

Light reading, in the mean time.

CHAPTER II.
THE EGYPTIAN COLONY.

WHAT proofs have we that the Egyptians were a colony from Atlantis?

1. They claimed descent from "the twelve great gods," which must have meant the twelve gods of Atlantis, to wit, Poseidon and Cleito and their ten sons.

2. According to the traditions of the Phœnicians, the Egyptians derived their civilization from them; and as the Egyptians far antedated the rise of the Phœnician nations proper, this must have meant that Egypt derived its civilization from the same country to which the Phœnicians owed their own origin. The Phœnician legends show that Misor, from whom, the Egyptians were descended, was the child of the Phœnician gods Amynus and Magus. Misor gave birth to Taaut, the god of letters, the inventor of the alphabet, and Taaut became Thoth, the god of history of the Egyptians. Sanchoniathon tells us that "Chronos (king of Atlantis) visited the South, and gave all Egypt to the god Taaut, that it might be his kingdom." "Misor" is probably the king "Mestor" named by Plato.

The proofs continue at this link.

Atlantis, the Antediluvian World, by Ignatius Donnelly, [1882], at sacred-texts.com