The US and the war against China. (Mobile / computer tech).

a reply to: RadioRobert

How exactly are they creating a national security risk? When Huawei sells phones within' the US they need to follow US regulations and go through US providers, and then submit terms and conditions to their users.

I am sure a user or lawyer who has purchased these devices has scoured the terms and conditions for loopholes, why hasn't anything surfaced?

originally posted by: Willtell
The US is acting like a world-wide NAZI economic predator. Sanctioning Iran, Venezuela, Russia, China; and under Trump you notice mainly nonwhite countries from the racist, grifter in Chief.

Thanks for the 2 Cents Willie , Completely Out of the Loop Thinking there . Unfortunately , there Are No Definitives in this Life , Only Infinite Probabilities that Seldom are Distinctly Defined to Any Degree of Certainty ............

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

That’s your opinion, I’m entitled to mine based on observable fact.

originally posted by: projectvxn

This isn't creating healthy competition, this is enforcing what people can or can't purchase.

National security is at stake here.

Former Pentagon analyst: China has backdoors to 80% of telecoms - ZD Net

Hidden Backdoor Found in Chinese-Made Equipment. Nothing New! Move Along! - Bleeping Computer

Chinese phone maker Coolpad caught building backdoors into its phones

Vodafone Found Hidden Backdoors in Huawei Equipment - Bloomberg

I think I've made my point.

The problem with that is why doesn't the US govt have a problem or go to the same extreme with US contractors that sub to China on computer and electronic parts such as computer chips that end up on DOD and top secret systems?

We have sh1tl loads of non Huawei electronic parts that are built in China one way or another with no way to easily check for back doors that have billions of transistor.

So why is Huawei solely being targeted and not other$ including American companies such as Lockheed, Boeing, Raytheon,iPhone,etc that sub to China?

I'm thinking there is more to this or perhaps Huawei was threatening certain big lobbyist for competition?

a reply to: Willtell

I think you're stretching a little much with the Nazi statement. The US does have a sort of superiority complex over the world. But not a totalitarian one.

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

That’s your opinion, I’m entitled to mine based on observable fact.

Geez , you Must have Very Keen Eyesight then , I'm Impressed , Go Clean your Room now Young Man , can't you See it's a Mess ? ......)

a reply to: strongfp



You apparently just stumbled upon this, but this is an old story. Several Western nations have implemented bans on product.

linky

Earlier this year the Australian Government banned Huawei from taking part in the rollout of 5G mobile infrastructure over national security concerns.

It was banned because the company was "likely subject to extrajudicial directions from a foreign government that conflict with Australian law".

New Zealand's international spy agency also followed Australia's lead, banning the use of Huawei equipment in its planned 5G upgrade, saying it posed a "significant network security risk".

Britain's BT Group is also removing Huawei equipment from its networks, Washington has taken a series of steps to restrict Huawei in the US, and the European Union's technology commissioner said the EU should also be worried about Huawei and other Chinese technology companies.

The company is said to be employee-owned but there has long been speculation about Huawei's links to the Chinese Government.

The founder and CEO of the company, Ren Zhengfei, is a communist party member and when he joined the party said it was expected that all "exceptional" people should do so...

"The biggest concern is, whether they want to do it or not, they can be compelled by the Chinese Communist Party to spy and conduct espionage on the Chinese Communist Party's behalf," Fergus Hanson from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute told the ABC's PM program.

"There's laws … in China that require all Chinese companies to participate in state espionage if they're ordered to do so."

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Earlier this year at a US Senate Intelligence Committee hearing, heads of major intelligence bodies, including the FBI, CIA and NSA, warned that Americans should not purchase Huawei products, citing concerns about their use as spying devices.

another linky

The U.S. Justice Department unsealed two indictments on Monday against China’s Huawei Technologies Co Ltd [HWT.UL], several of its subsidiaries and its chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou, in a pair of cases accusing the company of everything from bank and wire fraud to obstructing justice and conspiring to steal trade secrets from T-Mobile US Inc.

a reply to: RadioRobert

It seems to be based on the 5G technology tho.

Honestly, this is becoming more and more complex. And i have noticed a tone towards 5G on ATS lately, something is up, but I still stand by what I have been saying, that it's not just the Chinese making these phones. Is it the phones themselves, or the technology behind them?
What does it matter on a global free market who comes up with the next technology to boost us beyond what we have now?

a reply to: strongfp

Uh, it matters when antagonistic governments backdoor your technology... Why/how is that surprising to you?

a reply to: RadioRobert

If it betters humanity as a whole what is the problem?

Nothing makes sense in this world anymore.

The capitalist are becoming communists, and the communists are capitalists.

National security was endangered when the American flag made in China.

No respect... No respect at all.

a reply to: strongfp

Riiiight...

a reply to: RadioRobert

The world doesn't revolve around the USA.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: RadioRobert

The world doesn't revolve around the USA.

What does that have to do with anything?

China isn't making the world better by spying and backdooring tech so they can continue to steal trade secrets and compromise our security.

Screw China.

a reply to: projectvxn

You can't prove that, and if you do, it will clearly lead to other technology companies that are US based as well.

Let's put thing into perspective here.

When Henry Ford made the assembly line, do you think he came up with the idea himself? No, he stole ideas from European industries and got help. Did that make him a threat to national security for manufacturing purposes?

When Amazon and Google team up with Huawei to make phones and apps are they now national security threats as well?

a reply to: strongfp

Huawei to make phones and apps are they now national security threats as well?

Do you not understand how digital spying occurs?

How backdooring works?

How do you not get NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT here?

Are you being purposefully obtuse?

phoneradar.com...

www.techrepublic.com...


China is a nation of thieves and spies.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: strongfp

Huawei to make phones and apps are they now national security threats as well?

Do you not understand how digital spying occurs?

How backdooring works?

How do you not get NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT here?

Are you being purposefully obtuse?

phoneradar.com...

www.techrepublic.com...


China is a nation of thieves and spies.

A chinese company, whom you have to have a decent chinese social score to get a job at, can't possibly be capable of using electronics to spy...

a reply to: projectvxn

And Google continued business? See your first source, first 'reason' 2007.

Ban Google, and Amazon.

a reply to: strongfp

You should read all of the links I've provided for you.

There's a lot of information there.

Google has, in fact, been part of the problem. But that is coming to an end very soon. Huawei is just the beginning.

a reply to: projectvxn

So you are somewhat agreeing that global free trade based on national capitalism should be stomped out?