The US and the war against China. (Mobile / computer tech).

I've been sort of following the whole US vrs China trade war, and it's becoming almost daily life to know that such a thing is happening.

One of the sub - subjects in the whole situation has been the battle against a mobile giant known as Huawei, for those who don't know who or what they do, they make some pretty good laptops, cell phones, and to top it all off some amazing flagship smartphones, including a foldable phone that surpasses Samsung right now, they are also second in the world to largest manufacturer of smart phones in the world behind Samsung.
They also use Andriod software, and use several if not dozens of US company's for parts and patented technology, they are a global company.

With the whole protectionist agenda currently pushed in the US; and Huawei a Chinese based company, they have been targeted as a 'national security threat', and Canada has sort of taken on the same rhetoric towards the company. Including arresting the CFO of the company upon the request of US justice department.

There is far more to the situation, but those are the main highlights I find. Until recently.

The current US administration has gone full force, by completing banning all business affiliations with the Chinese company, which means, no sim cards, no Google Android software, no Microsoft, no more physical parts, nothing. The second largest cell phone company in the world is being outright banned from not just phones being purchased in the US, but anything affiliated with them.

Honestly, this isn't a shock to me, but it's a rather sad turn of events. This is stepping on the toes of world progress and technological advancement, and goes against a sovereign nation capitalist model to tap into the global free market (not talking about China, just to be clear). This isn't creating healthy competition, this is enforcing what people can or can't purchase. As much as Trump is using this as a bargaining chip for the trade war between the US and China, it's forcing American company's to abide by government rules, what is Google to do in this situation? Or any of the smaller manufacturing parts company's? just sit there and watch what happens until the government says it's OK?

This isn't creating healthy competition, this is enforcing what people can or can't purchase.

National security is at stake here.

Former Pentagon analyst: China has backdoors to 80% of telecoms - ZD Net

Hidden Backdoor Found in Chinese-Made Equipment. Nothing New! Move Along! - Bleeping Computer

Chinese phone maker Coolpad caught building backdoors into its phones

Vodafone Found Hidden Backdoors in Huawei Equipment - Bloomberg

I think I've made my point.

a reply to: projectvxn

All cell phone makers don't have this capability already?

a reply to: strongfp

U.S. Teen Hacks Should and Could Win a War of WILLS with China on the Internet , and make some Serious " U.S. Government Change " in the Process . For Christ's Sake , Americans Invented the Freakin' Internet , and the Military was KIND Enough to Give US a Head Start . Thanks Uncle Sam , We Will Now take it to the " Next Level " ................

a reply to: strongfp

It isn't a "capability" issue. It's an intelligence gathering tool that is being used by the Chinese to spy on American businesses and government entities.

They've been getting away with it long enough.

a reply to: projectvxn

By using an American based operating system?

So is Google, and Amazon in on this as well?

They can't even use apps anymore, worldwide.

a reply to: strongfp

It isn't the operating system that's the biggest issue. But yes, they can and do build in backdoors to the Android system.

The most worrisome instances of this are the hardware backdoors they build in.

a reply to: projectvxn

Hardware built in?

You mean the video card and memory I have in my computer is spying one me without any software to control it!?

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: projectvxn

All cell phone makers don't have this capability already?

Sure. Just like everyone has the capability for theft or murder.

We usually punish people based on their actions here, not on their capabilities.

If you can demonstrate other companies creating a national security risk, let's have that discussion.

a reply to: strongfp

What would make you believe there is no software involved?

Can you identify every chip on a PCB the size of a video card or motherboard? Even if you had the know-how to identify the chips and pin-outs, how would you know what it is actually doing without serious analysis of the circuits in question?

This has been going on for a long time.

a reply to: projectvxn

Blame the globalist media puppets that the ignorant don't understand why China is the indisputable top threat we face.

Then again maybe the biggest blame should reside with the willfully ignorant?

I'll have to think about this one a bit after all...

a reply to: The GUT

The Art of War is like a Diamond with Many Facets . Free Thinkers Usually Dominate the World in that Regard , .....Sorry..


" RED " China........

a reply to: strongfp

Do you think China will ban iPhones in retaliation?

a reply to: strongfp

You also have strange fires in Holland that made super thin chips and people jumping from roof tops that might have won nobel prizes and a CEO getting nicked , they have a slang saying in the uk ,ITS all gone Pete tong [ wrong ] they should have one in the USA that goes , Its all gone TRON

fourwinds10.com...

The US is acting like a world-wide NAZI economic predator. Sanctioning Iran, Venezuela, Russia, China; and under Trump you notice mainly nonwhite countries from the racist, grifter in Chief.

a reply to: Willtell

Haha. I still remember your threads complaining that Trump never raised protectionist tariffs to protect the middle class, so the faux -outrage over addressing fair trade is especially comical.

a reply to: projectvxn

Hardware is hardware, there hasn't been any significant proof that certain components that make a computer or cellphone comes built in with a software, if it did, it would easily be outdated or noticed by the OS and other continuously updating software for apps and such.

As much as I understand there might be a national security threat, I feel there isn't one at all since Huawei is using almost more than half their components to make the device in the US and the main software is Google. This is clearly putting a road block in the free market, and capitalist market. This will directly have negative outcomes for US company's.

a reply to: RadioRobert

What the f___ are you talking about. Speak English

a reply to: Willtell

No they won't. Because iPhones are a global effort. Just like all tech no days, this is clearly a China Vrs US thing right now.