Globalist Countries Ban Chinese Huwaei Smartphones

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

To add, the us is nothing like a free market. It’s built from top to bottom on market controls, manipulation, subsidies and monopolies.

a reply to: pexx421

Yawn. I could not care less about your American hate. China steals all the information it can.

a reply to: Artesia

This is a Huwaei smartphone I'm using. Had a lgr screen a few years ago....so...just f'in great.....so I'm dumping it asap....

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Why would anyone outside China buy that junk?

originally posted by: pexx421
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

To add, the us is nothing like a free market. It’s built from top to bottom on market controls, manipulation, subsidies and monopolies.

Yes well I have no love for America's incredibly corrupt and oligarchical system, but China's system is very much the same, only a far worse incarnation of it. Plus they are even less concerned about hiding it.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: pexx421

Yawn. I could not care less about your American hate. China steals all the information it can.

And yet America steals all the information it can too. We have actually been found guilty, even openly boasting about it. And we do it to everyone, allies and enemies alike.

originally posted by: pexx421

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: pexx421

Yawn. I could not care less about your American hate. China steals all the information it can.

And yet America steals all the information it can too. We have actually been found guilty, even openly boasting about it. And we do it to everyone, allies and enemies alike.

Maybe I am wrong. Please show me where America closes it's markets to anyone who won't give them access to their technology?

No one in the world steals IP like China, fact.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

So you quote a statement and then ask for an example having nothing to do with that statement. But to follow your train, we have plenty, in fact almost all of our tech hardware companies operating out of China. Did they all agree to share their ip in order to operate there?

a reply to: pexx421

We have zero, not plenty, literally zero. Please show me the list of Chinese companies that were forced to partner with an American company and give that American company all of it's IP to enter the US market. None of the US companies volunteered their IP, they were forced.

And consider the irony. Just 100 years ago we went to China with gunboats, demanding they open their markets to us and buy our opium. Then, our congress and corporations pushed for decades to offshore and outsource our business over there. And now we’re mad because their economy is growing faster than any in the world, meanwhile ours is drowning in ever increasing debt and stagnant wages and financialization to the tune of 20 trillion in current (official) debt, not counting unfounded pension, Medicare and Medicaid, and social security. And yet we cut business taxes. We are the architects of our own demise, and China didn’t do it, we did it to ourselves (our moneyed interests did it to all the rest of us). The USA came up in exactly the same way, with Britain crying about us stealing from them. Now it’s our turn, and rather than taking steps to turn it around, all we do is to exacerbate the problem, and plunge the world into war, while Wall Street, oligarchs, and politicians rush to steal as much as they can from a sinking ship.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: pexx421

We have zero, not plenty, literally zero. Please show me the list of Chinese companies that were forced to partner with an American company and give that American company all of it's IP to enter the US market. None of the US companies volunteered their IP, they were forced.

That wasn’t what I asked you. I asked, did apple, Lenovo, asus, all these companies operating in China, agree to share their ip with China in order to work there?

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Because it had the largest screen at the time for a no contract ph....

trying now to stuff down toilet...too much spy-bloat-phishware to flush!*

*I have 2 other brand smartphones...
**I'd never have spent the money (3 yrs?) back had I known! Damn it!

ps Thank you!

I had the huawei nexus several years ago. It was a good phone. Honestly huawei provides high quality gear at excellent prices, competing with apple or Samsung but often at 2/3 cost. And honestly, I expect that’s a lot of the issue. The business model of offering a fair product at a fair price is repugnant to us corporations.

Sure, China has a greedy tyrannical government. The US is worse in the sense they have a sinister government that lets their greedy industry's kill. Just ask the victims of Monsanto and Boeing, and how the FAA let Boeing murder hundreds of people while they looked the other way.

a reply to: pexx421

They agreed because it was the only way to gain access to China's markets. If a loan shark makes me an offer and I agree does it mean loan sharking is alright?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: pexx421

They agreed because it was the only way to gain access to China's markets. If a loan shark makes me an offer and I agree does it mean loan sharking is alright?

See and it’s your problem that you don’t recognize the difference there. Usually people ONLY go to a loanshark because they have no choice. All our companies had a choice. It was stay in the us and make excellent profit selling to a good sized market and paying a higher wage, or deal with China and make stupendous profit in exchange for cheap labor and sharing tech. They made the “deal with the devil” and threw middle class workers and the us econ under the bus, and now you want to cry for them.

Now hey, you have your opinion, and it differs from mine, and that’s cool. But really, when you have to attack people who disagree with you by disparaging them and calling them names, maybe it’s time to examine if what you really have are opinions, or are they ideologies and addictions to a set of beliefs that you can’t bear to have questioned. Just saying.

a reply to: pexx421

False, you always have a choice. Stop lying. Already sourced and proved China's misdeeds.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

No, you don’t, and no, you haven’t. It’s ok though occam, you’re alright man.

a reply to: pexx421

In each of the seven chapters of the draft, Reuters reported, China had deleted commitments to change laws to resolve U.S. complaints: theft of U.S. intellectual property and trade secrets, forced technology transfers, competition policy, access to financial services and currency manipulation.

www.cnbc.com...

One in Five U.S. Companies Say China Has Stolen Their Intellectual Property

fortune.com...

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

That’s just echoing a narrative. And it’s also after China was presented with the information that trump had gone back on his word and had further, unrealistic expectations to add to the treaty. Which you would know had you read the article I posted as the timeline is laid out clearly.