Globalist Countries Ban Chinese Huwaei Smartphones

www.cnn.com...

NATO countries need to stop China from winning the 5G race

So apparently Canada already ARRESTED H's CEO and about a dozen countries - USA, Germany, Aus, NZ, Japan, etc - have already banned H's telecom products.

And I was looking forward to seeing them come out with cars eventually, as wondered whatever happened to Daewoo (Skorean, like Samsung, not Chinese).

Depending on the media source, seems very different reasons.

AlJazeera mentions for doing biz with Iran & NK.

But CNN says its about China 'winning' the 5G rat race, naturally.

Anyways, the Samsung logo looks different now. What happened to its A?!

It's about the spyware. Nothing more to say.
Yes, What's App is now in the hands of America, so I guess China will ban it too. We use it communicate with people in Hong Kong as of today.

Wasn't Wats app always a FB spyware?

I heard them say on CNN that China copy Amazon and call it Alibaba...

imo Alibaba was selling everything when Amazon was just sellin books though.

arg, corporate globalists! =/

This is all about national security. Regardless, the last thing the American consumer needs is more Chinese junk.

Hmm yea they can be cheap and crappy.

That pretty much secures Apple and Samsung $1K+ phone market shared monopoly.

Brilliant. Weird that most everyone's financing their phones like cars nowadays.

originally posted by: Artesia
Hmm yea they can be cheap and crappy.

That pretty much secures Apple and Samsung $1K+ phone market shared monopoly.

Brilliant. Weird that most everyone's financing their phones like cars nowadays.

In Japan they give you the phone free with a 2 year contract at about 29 bucks a month. Americans are getting ripped off.

Huwaei is nothing more than a front for Chinese Intelligence.

Banning them isn't industrial jealously, they are an actual security threat, as is every product they make.

originally posted by: Ohanka
Huwaei is nothing more than a front for Chinese Intelligence.

Banning them isn't industrial jealously, they are an actual security threat, as is every product they make.

It is how they think. Just like all nations that want to be a super leader.

It might be hard speaking truth to power but it's non-understandable (though there'll be reasons for it) why some British politicians are refusing to listen to open warnings from their own security chiefs .

Could be to do with the fact that Huwawei are already deeply entrenched in providing communications systems there . Could also be to do with the sourcing of intelligence where money routinely changes hands for info . In that sense the British govt could be buying illegally gained but cheap intel on its own citizens from Hua , instead of going through the self-limiting legal rigmarole of sourcing through home agents , like gchq . In that case , it might already be a norm in government, or for their particular purposes , to not bother with listening to little old gchq in the first place , and that'd be partly why they're being ignored again .

If they moved to limit Chinese involvement in British nuclear faciltilies as they did a couple of year ago , you'd think it would only make more sense to keep them out of 5g

Other nations should never supply key infrastructure and/or be in charge of maintenance or the day to day running of said infrastructure.

Especially a nation like China.

It's dangerous and it's unethical. Anyone supporting such things should be investigated, western nations have had plenty of warnings...

Seems profit is more important? We should be developing and implementing this technology ourselves.

originally posted by: RAY1990
Other nations should never supply key infrastructure and/or be in charge of maintenance or the day to day running of said infrastructure.

Especially a nation like China.

It's dangerous and it's unethical. Anyone supporting such things should be investigated, western nations have had plenty of warnings...

Seems profit is more important? We should be developing and implementing this technology ourselves.

We developing it and will implement.

5G tech is HARD and everyone who has 5G tech as of now is about equal in footing with how far along it has matured.

Don't let the media sensarionalist headlines scare you, the US is also far along on 5G tech, just had to catch up their for a second.

Has any intelligence agency, firm or forum provided actual proof of said spying software? Please share the link because all I find is just rumors and bad word of mouth. Thank you!

originally posted by: ATSAlex
Has any intelligence agency, firm or forum provided actual proof of said spying software? Please share the link because all I find is just rumors and bad word of mouth. Thank you!

Well somebody hasn't been paying attention to the actions of Chinese "businesses" which can more accurately be described as arms of the communist party over the past 2 decades.

a reply to: Artesia

www.cnet.com...

This goes over some of the why there's an issue with Huawei.

The Chinese telecom giant may have run into its biggest trouble yet in late January when the US Justice Department unsealed indictments that included 23 counts pertaining to the alleged theft of intellectual property, obstruction of justice and fraud related to its alleged evasion of US sanctions against Iran.

But the core issue with Huawei has been concerns about its coziness with the Chinese government and fears that its equipment could be used to spy on other countries and companies. It's the reason why the US banned companies from using Huawei networking equipment in 2012.

originally posted by: ATSAlex
Has any intelligence agency, firm or forum provided actual proof of said spying software? Please share the link because all I find is just rumors and bad word of mouth. Thank you!

He (FBI director Wray) said he thinks China, from a counterintelligence perspective, represents the broadest and most significant threat America faces. China wants to replace the United States as the most powerful economic engine in the world and is infiltrating American businesses to get an edge. "We have economic espionage investigations in all 50 states" that can be traced back to China, Wray said. "It covers everything from corn seeds in Iowa to wind turbines in Massachusetts and everything in between. "The volume of it. The pervasiveness of it. The significance of it is something that I think this country cannot underestimate."

link

*Added bold to specify who was speaking

I think it's more of the nature of how Chinese businesses conduct themselves. They have an interesting take on intellectual property or lack there of.

Let's assume for a moment that their coding is sound, and the western world adopts it. How hard would it be to make a firmware update for backdoor access?

a reply to: Artesia

Why would any country want to give China access to all it's information so China can steal it?

a reply to: ATSAlex

China admitted it. They said it was a mistake and it's fixed, trust them.

It’s because, at heart, all the “free market” bs is a lie. We want a controlled market with our people in control. The co chair of huawei was arrested in Canada some time ago and the reason was for trading with Iran. Nothing else. This was clearly listed at the time. Further, huawei are not cheap Chinese products. They are excellent phones meeting or surpassing Samsung and apple at a much lower price. This is all nothing more than the us trying to maintain global economic dominance as their empire is failing.

All the news provided is garbage and lies as the media has lost all credibility and never presents facts anymore. Just as they’ve lied about why the trade treaty with China failed. They say China reneged, and they attempt to screw us with bad deals. The facts are China offered far more than we asked.

We demanded they spend 100 billion a year on us farm products. They offered one trillion over 5 years.

We demanded they give up rights to patents and tech from companies they purchase. They offered to codify that into law and to allow us inspections to verify compliance.

We demanded they allow us to buy 51% of their banks so we could take a controlling interest. They offered us the ability to buy 100% and started allowing it immediately.

Those were the original requirements which they all surpassed, but that wasn’t enough. Then we moved the goalpost and demanded

1) they share all advances in cyber security, ai, and telecoms with us
2) their banks stop giving low interest loans to state businesses and
3) their govt stops subsidizing state businesses.
And 4) even if they do all this we keep tariffs on them while they end all tariffs on us.

This is the point where they walked away.

a reply to: pexx421

It's because China is not a free market. They steal everything they can.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Ah. Because we don’t do that. The us was built on stealing tech and intellectual rights from Britain. And our intellectual rights laws need to be severely revamped. That’s part of the reason it costs 96k here for a month of pills to cure hep c, or 100k for a snake bite.

Regardless your one liner rebuttal does nothing to defray that our media and government lie to us, and are dishonest and predatory in their trade policies and treaties.