Let’s talk about Tulsi Gabbard

a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

www.ontheissues.org... here is her on the issues page for her opinions and whatnot

www.votetulsi.com... but she wants a new assult weapons ban so not a fan

Tulsi has a consistent record of advocating for sensible gun control. She has long called for reinstating a federal ban on military-style assault weapons and high capacity magazines, requiring comprehensive pre-purchase background checks, closing the gun-show loophole, and making sure that terrorists are not allowed to buy guns. Tulsi has an F-rating from the NRA, a 0% rating by the Hawaii Rifle Association, and a 100% rating by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. She is focused on building bipartisan solutions that can actually be passed into law, rather than using the issue as a partisan political football.

a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

I like a lot about her and would consider voting for her in 2024.

If its going to be a Democrat she is the easiest one to listen to, virtually all the others just are too far gone. But think she isn't going to get the nomination, the left wants really left. Thats why barring a catastrophe Trump gets reelected.

a reply to: Quantumgamer1776


Ummm...she does try real hard to plaster over her pox scarred face...so there is that...

She's kinda lukewarm in the looks department IMO...

At the end of the day she's just another run of the mill progressive that wants to tear down rights and replace them with government mandates...


So...no...she does nothing for me...and I don't get a thrill up my leg talking Tulsi...


Ooohhh...let's vote for the prog... cause she's...hawt...

Y'all sound like a bunch of fifth graders...





YouSir

" She wanted to make it clear that her responsibility is to serve the American people, not her political party. She pointed out that as a public servant she is supposed to serve both Democrats and the Republicans that live in her district, by using diplomacy to discuss real solutions to real problems and to not dismiss the other side because your convinced your right on every issue."


LOL they all say that, does anybody need a bridge? I can let you have it almost free.

a reply to: starfoxxx

Hilarious no?

a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

So how often is she crossing party lines. Since she said that's her responsibility.

a reply to: YouSir

I didn't see anyone saying they would vote for her at this point, I think people merely have their ears perked to what she has to say.

Either way, there is no perfect candidate right now, there is always compromise. But she's a vet who adamantly opposes foreign intervention to siphon our resources for other people.

Maybe you're right, maybe she's just telling people what they want to hear to get a vote. Because after Trump got my vote, he appointed Bolton as his national security adviser, while they haven't added anything new to the docket, they didn't take anything off either.

But if Trump's admin's actions don't run in line with the platform promised, I'll do the only thing I can do and vote against him in a manner that best fits my principles. The way things are trending, my ears are open to possibilities.

My take is five year old's typically do as they're told.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

My thing is she says her job is not to follow party lines and to work for everyone. So in what way has she crossed party lines. What percent of the time does she vote the Democrat way?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: CriticalStinker

My thing is she says her job is not to follow party lines and to work for everyone. So in what way has she crossed party lines. What percent of the time does she vote the Democrat way?

I never claimed she was perfect, nor did I say I would vote for her....

Claiming to not tow the line is different than saying her principles typically fall within the Democrat model. She proved she doesn't tow the line when she stepped down as vice chair after the DNC's stunt with propping up Hillary. She showed she's willing to at least communicate with the other side when she met with Trump after his election while all the other dems were calling him Hitler.

She's different than a lot of them. She is better than most.

Tulsi Gabbard on the issues.

Her views seem to be right in line with the rest of the Democrats, so her appeal must be due to something else?

After reading through all of that, what about her is different? Her views could be ascribed to most everyone running?

She's for free college. She's for Medicare for all. She calls our involvement in Syria to deal with ISIS as illegal. She blames the flood of people from Central America on the US. She want's DACA codified. She supports the Green New Deal. She's pro-choice. She's for more gun regulation. She's in all ways a typical Democrat.

Having said that, she may be the best choice among the Democrats, but I don't get why she's presented as being different? She's not. She is more soft spoken and calm, but at her core she's the same.

a reply to: Blaine91555

Because she says a lot of things that make her appear to not be in the same mold.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: CriticalStinker

My thing is she says her job is not to follow party lines and to work for everyone. So in what way has she crossed party lines. What percent of the time does she vote the Democrat way?

According to this, last year she voted with Trump's position 25% of the time, but this year 0% to date. So overall, about 20% of the time she votes with Trump.

538

a reply to: Subsonic

So 0% this year. So Trump is 100% wrong .. sorry, she failed the test.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Subsonic

So 0% this year. So Trump is 100% wrong .. sorry, she failed the test.

That's not really the correct takeaway here. If you look at that report on FiveThirtyEight, Trump has opposed every single bill in congress this year, likely because it's a Democrat led congress now. So Gabbard has indeed voted against Trump on every vote this year, but that's as likely due to Trump refusing to sign any Democrat legislation regardless of what it is, as it is about Gabbard siding WITH the Democrats on everything.

Last year, when it was a Republican led congress, Trump supported nearly every bill presented in congress likely due to it being Republican led, and Gabbard sided with the Republicans 25% of the time. I think that's a far more accurate representation of where she's at then her voting record this year.

I listened to what she had to say on both of the JRE podcasts, and I think she's a pretty level-headed person. I don't agree with her on everything, but I've never met anyone that agrees with everything I say or think 100% of the time. And thank God for that!

a reply to: Subsonic

Yes, so she sides with Democrats every time, and only sides with Trump on bipartisan things.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Subsonic

Yes, so she sides with Democrats every time, and only sides with Trump on bipartisan things.

Sooo...did you click on the link? You can look at each individual bill and see how she voted, and whether it was with or against her party. She votes with Democrats most of the time, but sometimes doesn't. Probably because she's a Democrat. But with an independent streak. It's not really complicated.

Sounds like you want 435 Trumps in congress and anything less is completely unacceptable to you. That's fine if that's your take on things, but I think what folks are talking about here is that she's somewhat independent minded, regardless of what side of the aisle she's on. I think that's a good thing. Not sure I'd vote for her, but she's at least not a complete Socialist mess like most of the other Democrats running.

a reply to: Subsonic

I looked at the actual bills and her vote. She voted exactly how the Democrats wanted every single time. She sided with the Democrats on every bill of substance. It looks like for political reasons a few Democrats side with Republicans on bills that are guaranteed to pass, and she did the same, just as they all do. Want to know who else voted with Trump 20% of the time ... Pelosi, just like Gabbard, surprise surprise.

2018
Expressing support for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency and denouncing calls for its abolishment (244-35)

The Democrat plan was to vote Present rather than support it. Guess who voted Present?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Subsonic

I looked at the actual bills and her vote. She voted exactly how the Democrats wanted every single time. She sided with the Democrats on every bill of substance. It looks like for political reasons a few Democrats side with Republicans on bills that are guaranteed to pass, and she did the same, just as they all do. Want to know who else voted with Trump 20% of the time ... Pelosi, just like Gabbard, surprise surprise.

2018
Expressing support for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency and denouncing calls for its abolishment (244-35)

The Democrat plan was to vote Present rather than support it. Guess who voted Present?

We must be looking at two different things. Here are some bills that she voted with Trump on, and against a large number of Democrats:

3/16/17 - Veteran Affairs bill
5/3/17 - 2017 FY Appropriations bill
9/8/17 - Raise debt limit for Hurricane Harvey Relief
9/28/17 - FAA disaster relief
12/6/174 - Motion to table impeachment against Trump
1/30/18 - DoD Appropriations Act
3/22/18 - 2018 FY Appropriations bill
5/22/18 - Terminal patients right to try unapproved treatments
7/24/18 - Eliminating the medical device tax

a reply to: Subsonic

You have no idea how politics works. She voted as Democrats expected her to vote every single time. When they don't have the votes to win they strategically have people vote yes and no to advance their chance to win the next election cycle.

She voted as Democrats expected every time. Show me the list of key Trump campaign promises that half the country supports and Democrats hate, such as illegal immigration reform, that Tulsi defied Democrats to support. I'll wait.