Let’s talk about Tulsi Gabbard

Gabbard was the guest on Joe Rogans podcast yesterday, in an interview that lasted just over 2.5 hours.

They discussed her positions on:
-the military industrial complex
-foreign interventionism
-social media censorship
-the lack of bipartisan cooperation
-treatment of whistle blowers
-her rejection of corporate donations
-and of course many other subjects

IMO she came off very sensible and focused, she has served in the military and congress and wanted to make it clear that her responsibility is it serve the American people, not her political party. She pointed out that as a public servant she is supposed to serve both Democrats and the Republicans that live in her district, by using diplomacy to discuss real solutions to real problems and to not dismiss the other side because your convinced your right on every issue.

So what does the ATS community think of Gabbard as a 2020 candidate?

a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

She won't get the nomination because she isn't beholden to the DNC.

So it doesn't matter what her positions are.

Just reality, unfortunately.

a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

I think she has a better chance in 2024, because she's too smart to go after Trump in the way the other dems are going to do just for clout. I think she'll drop out early on while getting her name out there for next run, maybe Bernie will have her as VP on his ticket should he make it that far.

She's the Democrat's most sensible candidate though, she's got a calm head on her shoulders and seems to look at things pragmatically. While I don't agree with her whole platform, she seems genuine which is one of the most important qualities I look for.

In the right setting, she might be the first Democratic presidential candidate I would consider voting for.

Edit: thanks for the heads up on this podcast, downloading now... I can't wait, her first one with Joe was good as well.

a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

I really like her and I think she is sensible the only problem is her stance on the 2nd Amendment. I will not support anyone who wishes to erode my constitutional rights.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

I really like her and I think she is sensible the only problem is her stance on the 2nd Amendment. I will not support anyone who wishes to erode my constitutional rights.

Excellent point, which will open her up to a lot of the independents as she touches on good points from both sides.

Also, she's a babe... I mean like 10/10 total babe.

Hindu Samoan woman. Hits all the right buttons out of the gate.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I like her character her dedication to service I do not doubt she has the best interests for the country. And yeah, she is a definite babe. The second amendment issue is non-negotiable.

originally posted by: schuyler
Hindu Samoan woman. Hits all the right buttons out of the gate.

I haven't seen her play identity politics, so I'm not going to with her.

I think she's American above a Hindu Samoan though, her service answered that question for me.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

I really like her and I think she is sensible the only problem is her stance on the 2nd Amendment. I will not support anyone who wishes to erode my constitutional rights.

What’s her position on the 2nd amendment? They didn’t discuss that on this podcast and I really wish they did, it’s very important to me as well.

a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

Wouldn't it be a hoot if Trump made her his VP choice for 2020?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

Wouldn't it be a hoot if Trump made her his VP choice for 2020?

That would be the ultimate power move. Reshaping the power structure of both parties.

Question is, would she accept?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

Wouldn't it be a hoot if Trump made her his VP choice for 2020?

That would be a genius move from both of them, but poor Pence

I think she is the only Dem with a fully functioning brain.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I don't know as she would need to ''go after Trump''. Should she rise in the dem polls, the going after Trump can be left to all the others. She did after all come out a few weeks ago against impeachment in favor of taking care of business in the next election.

As to her not being beholding to the Dem central committee, even as that may be, she was on that issue of impeachment, totally in line with Pelosi. As well, the Central Committee is not as strong as it once was. One, that committee was totally shamed in the eyes of the nation with i't s glorification of Clinton, which seems to have been left behind now. As well as that the structure of the Super Delegates has been altered thanks to Bernie who a while back spearheaded a change in their bylaws in that the Super Delegate status could not be voted on the first ballot at their convention. Delegates are free on that ballot to vote as they see fit. So should the dems as a group of liberals and not as the ''machine'' come to their senses in time, Tulsi could be a nominee by acclimation on that first ballot.

All of that of course depends upon just how stupid the rest of the party is. If they hold to a hard line progressive agenda then they could likely loose in 2020. Only by supporting a moderate and sensible candidate like Gabbard do they stand any chance at offering the nation a viable alternative to Trump.

She was initially opposed to abortion, now she supports it. That includes past 20 weeks. She supports Alyssa Milano's sex strike and whatever else Hollywood can do to persuade voters.

Mike Gabbard’s opposition to LGBTQ rights (as well as abortion) seemed to stem from his religious background. Born in American Samoa, he is both Catholic and a member of an obscure offshoot of the Hare Krishna sect called the Science of Identity Foundation. The group’s leader, a self-described guru named Chris Butler, has condemned homosexuality, once arguing that it led to “an increasing number of American women [keeping] dogs for sexual purposes.’”

Tulsi Gabbard grew up in Butler’s movement, which has faced allegations of cult-like practices. She told the New Yorker’s Kelefa Sanneh that he shaped her Hindu identity, speaking of her “gratitude to him for the gift of this wonderful spiritual practice that he has given to me.”

Her early political career reflected both Butler’s views and her father’s. She worked for her father’s organization, which supported the use of “conversion therapy” to try to turn kids straight. She once blasted “homosexual activists” for trying to “force their values down the throats of the children in our schools.” During her successful run for the Hawaii Legislature in 2002, when she was just 21 years old, she vowed to pass a constitutional amendment against same-sex marriage.

www.vox.com...

Slowly, I began to realize that the positions I had held previously regarding the issues of choice and gay marriage were rooted in the same premise held by those in power in the oppressive Middle East regimes I saw — that it is government’s role to define and enforce our personal morality.

Her previous views would be political suicide now, so...

Could be worse, I guess. Maybe Secretary of State?

It almost happened.

One person reportedly “under serious consideration” to fill the position is United States Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI), who made headlines in February when she resigned as vice chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee in order to endorse Bernie Sanders for President.

thehill.com...

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: schuyler
Hindu Samoan woman. Hits all the right buttons out of the gate.

I haven't seen her play identity politics, so I'm not going to with her. .

You don't have to and neither does she. It will still ring a lot of bells with others, though.

originally posted by: Quantumgamer1776
Gabbard was the guest on Joe Rogans podcast yesterday, in an interview that lasted just over 2.5 hours.

They discussed her positions on:
-the military industrial complex
-foreign interventionism
-social media censorship
-the lack of bipartisan cooperation
-treatment of whistle blowers
-her rejection of corporate donations
-and of course many other subjects

IMO she came off very sensible and focused, she has served in the military and congress and wanted to make it clear that her responsibility is it serve the American people, not her political party. She pointed out that as a public servant she is supposed to serve both Democrats and the Republicans that live in her district, by using diplomacy to discuss real solutions to real problems and to not dismiss the other side because your convinced your right on every issue.

So what does the ATS community think of Gabbard as a 2020 candidate?

You believed that #??? What a load!! If you believe any politician check up stairs.

Sounds like a bunch of gobbledeegook like other democratic politicians...

She keeps being presented as a moderate. 20 years ago with some of her views she would be a radical. It's obviously and sadly the best the DNC has to offer.

I would never vote for her. THen again, as stated on every thread that tries to present her as a moderate choice, it doesn't matter to me. I will never vote for anyone that is part of the DNC.

And yeah, there is something very attractive about her that I have never really got yet, but I did watch her initial entry video several times and began to feel like I couldn't stop looking at her.

Tulsi may be the best democrat, but that's like saying out of a jar of jellied eels, one is slightly less slimy.

a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

Didn't watch the show. Does she support:

Open Borders (not closing the southern border)
Illegals Voting (not requiring voter ID)
Gun Restrictions (of any kind)
Abortion anytime (even after birth, wth)