Man who threw boy from balcony went to mall planning to kill, authorities say

a reply to: Xtrozero

you seeing a guy to that to someones kid does not equal reasonable belief of bodily harm

hell maybe it does

apparently a lot of people feel like it is worth risking the possible jail time for
i dont

originally posted by: matafuchs

Again, if it was me I would have shot him then beat him to death. No keyboard warrior just a father of 3 who was raised to protect my family not film it for Facebook Live.

would you know for sure 100% you would not be going to jail?
honestly now

i dont see how you can know that

so if you did wind up in jail for a long stretch how are you going to protect your family?

i know youre tough and all.
you would shoot and punch and the whole 9

bad mofo



it seems very strange to me that so many would risk being pulled away from their own families to hurt/kill someone that was not trying to hurt/kill you or your family

it is just not a concept i understand apparently

a reply to: LSU2018

Think how primitive this is. The very idea that no weapon is necessary because gravity will assist you. No metal detector can stop this type of attack.

Makes me want to stay close to Earth.

a reply to: TinySickTears

It is hard to express correct emotion on the internet and at the same time 99% is bull# so it it hard to believe if people would actually do what they say. In my experience not all people are prepared if something like that happens. They aren't. They can talk about how they would kick ass and kill people when most times they have never had a 'real fight' or held a gun in their lives. To define where I would be at in this situation...

If someone threw my child of a 3rd floor....I would go after my child before anything else if i was alone. If my wife was present I would deal with the threat to my family. I would either shoot him(malls suck because no weapons) or I would chase him down and it would not end well. I have beaten quite a few people unconscious to protect myself so I cannot fathom the adrenaline of not knowing if my child was alive and having the person there. Real fights are not like movie fights and are over pretty quick most time.

If it was not my child, and I was armed, I would try to stop him but not shoot. It is not a direct threat to my family but I would protect them because if he came at us, based on him already throwing someone off a 3rd story, no DA in their right minds would charge me if I shot him 5 or 6 times at close range. If he ran I would go after him. I have been like that since I was a kid sticking up for people or wanting to help. How i was raised. The fact no one actually stopped his guy in a mall shows the pussification and lack of involvement our country has attained. I read someone tried but no dice. Sorry, that makes me as sick to my stomach they were in Mall of America and no one stepped up?

Do you have kids TST?

a reply to: matafuchs

yup

i have kids

glad you know exactly what you would do in any given situation

you are one bad hombre

you are very confident on the going to jail thing.
might be right
might be wrong


i know i am not finding out for something someone does to your kid

thats for damn sure


my people need me out of jail

if youre cool with risking jail while you have people that depend on you then more power to you

i would not take that risk and i can not even comprehend the thoughts behind that


it makes no sense to me risking long term jail time when you have people that depend on you

again. you a bad mofo

clearly

beating quite a few people unconcious



harder than a coffin nail

Most people react when they see horrendous cruelty against an innocent being. Especially a child.

It's called having empathy and a soul. Being able to relate to other beings and what they are doing and feeling .

Normal, somewhat well adjusted humans would understandably feel a visceral urge to protect and avenge such a horrendous act.

Do you have a problem feeling empathy by any chance? Not trying to be disrespectful.

a reply to: TinySickTears

I don't think you read the post. If it was my family I would risk my life to protect them. If it was someone elses child I would step in the stop the man but I did not say I would hurt them UNLESS they came at my family. Nothing about being a bad hombre but if you do not know how you would react if that happened to your kids you need to man. Seriously. You are their protector. You are their line of defense.

I'm not proud of the fights I have had in the past growing up but I hate bullies. I was bullied as a kid and fought back lots of times. It sucked so when I see someone hurting or in need I jump in to assist. Some people are wired different. I do not teach my kids to fight or step in for any situation but I teach them to protect themselves and family.

originally posted by: toolgal462
Most people react when they see horrendous cruelty against an innocent being. Especially a child.

It's called having empathy and a soul. Being able to relate to other beings and what they are doing and feeling .

Normal, somewhat well adjusted humans would understandably feel a visceral urge to protect and avenge such a horrendous act.

Do you have a problem feeling empathy by any chance? Not trying to be disrespectful.

i said on the very first page of this thread that it warrants a reaction.
you must not have read that part.

a reaction is a far cry from killing him and beating him senseless.

you are right most people react when they see terrible things.
which is why i said it warrants a reaction.

i get normal humans feel the need to protect.

i am not normal.
my number 1 priority is to be here for my family.
there are very few people i care about in this world and i absolutely will not risk being separated from them or putting them in a bad way because i raged out and went to jail cause someone messed up someone elses kid.

how does me raging out and tuning a dude up or killing him for tossing this kid help my family?
how does it help me?

hell how does it help the kid that was tossed or his mother?

the answer to all of those is it does not.

if people would stop trying to be so damn tough they would see that.

you killing or hurting that person and more than likely going to jail for a very long time does not help anyone
it only hurts the guy who tossed the kid. dont get me wrong he deserves it but not if it means hurting my family.

i just think peoples reaction is to say how kick ass they would be and what they would do and maybe they would.

to that i say they are not wrong but stupid if that makes sense.


and since you asked yes i do have a problem feeling empathy towards people out here in the real world.





can anyone that feels like they would rage out please tell me how that helps the situation and how that helps your family?

you do realize you would be putting your family at risk?


i am just absolutely not willing to do that for you or that kid or anyone else.

a reply to: matafuchs

ok.

you said this

If it was not my child, and I was armed, I would try to stop him but not shoot.

so i misread


so what does that mean


gonna pistol whip?
try to stop him so when he fights back you end up shooting?

big risk my friend


people also have this misconception that since their actions come from a good place things will work out.
there is no guarantee of that either

clearly someone who tosses a kid over is crazy as #


i know everyone on here is tough as hell but that dude could be tougher

you going over to save the day could just as easily end up with you going over the ail too.

how would your kids like that? see you try to save the day then get tossed over?


it is a possibility


people call me a coward for these opinions and thats fine. i am cool with that

what i am is a realist.

too big a risk to me and mine

having said that if i were defending my people i would murder everyone

Yeah, but don't we all go to the mall with the intention to kill?

originally posted by: Blue Shift
Yeah, but don't we all go to the mall with the intention to kill?

sure makes me feel like it by the time i leave

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Blue Shift
Yeah, but don't we all go to the mall with the intention to kill?

sure makes me feel like it by the time i leave

I get that way at IKEA.

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: matafuchs

ok.

you said this

If it was not my child, and I was armed, I would try to stop him but not shoot.

so i misread


so what does that mean


gonna pistol whip?
try to stop him so when he fights back you end up shooting?

big risk my friend


people also have this misconception that since their actions come from a good place things will work out.
there is no guarantee of that either

clearly someone who tosses a kid over is crazy as #


i know everyone on here is tough as hell but that dude could be tougher

you going over to save the day could just as easily end up with you going over the ail too.

how would your kids like that? see you try to save the day then get tossed over?


it is a possibility


people call me a coward for these opinions and thats fine. i am cool with that

what i am is a realist.

too big a risk to me and mine

having said that if i were defending my people i would murder everyone

We get it bro, you already told us how you wouldn't help that old lady knocking on your door.

Wear that proud.

originally posted by: Muninn


We get it bro, you already told us how you wouldn't help that old lady knocking on your door.

Wear that

proud.

^^^^^
this is you following me around with your no substance little 2 line posts

just as i said

something else staff just dont see i guess even though you do it every day

a reply to: TinySickTears

I did not call you a coward TST. Not at all. I was trying to state how I would handle it. You yourself said "having said that if i were defending my people i would murder everyone" which you would always defend your family.

As far as my would not shoot comment, no, if I was a bystander and saw someone toss a kid over a railing I would first secure my family and would not wildly shoot at anyone. I don't want to be a hero but I would make sure whoever did it was being perused and would not get away..from a distance if needed.

You are correct that you never know in a situation. However, when one starts you better know how to react is all. My wife always laughs because if we go somewhere I am securing it in my head. No back to a door/etc. The world is nuckin futs now and you have to be ready for that zombie apocalypse right? ...have a good night man.

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: TinySickTears

I did not call you a coward TST. Not at all. I was trying to state how I would handle it. You yourself said "having said that if i were defending my people i would murder everyone" which you would always defend your family.

As far as my would not shoot comment, no, if I was a bystander and saw someone toss a kid over a railing I would first secure my family and would not wildly shoot at anyone. I don't want to be a hero but I would make sure whoever did it was being perused and would not get away..from a distance if needed.

You are correct that you never know in a situation. However, when one starts you better know how to react is all. My wife always laughs because if we go somewhere I am securing it in my head. No back to a door/etc. The world is nuckin futs now and you have to be ready for that zombie apocalypse right? ...have a good night man.

i didnt mean to insinuate you called me a coward

people do though quite a bit because of the position i take on these matters

i have actually enjoyed talking to you about it

i think we both have similar opinions on it but you seem a bit more willing to step in

that is not a bad thing or wrong

just wrong for me

to be quite honest the world needs people like you.

i am just not one of those people

so good on you

a reply to: LSU2018
No why would I do that? Besides, I am not sure what your getting at, the punishment is to rough, or to light, or just not to public tastes, or creative enough? Either way pretty sure now a days we can make a catapult that would launch somebody at well over 100 miles per hour.

So ya, mr clean would do for that clean up job.

But again, not sure what your saying? Maybe we should just give him a few years, general stuff. Would be interesting in a way, likely he gets out at some point for good behavior, and well, he would likely do what others have done. Embolden by the fact that he can just pick up kinds and throw them off balconies. He does what any other such bold individual would do in his shoes and have done before. You know, Start a cult, make himself the prophet, then finally all those chicks who shot him down at the mall would start eyeing him in a different light.

You see the world is much more stranger place then the news shows would have you believe, not all such wacky criminals end up drinking themselves to death in a ally. Life is a strange thing, as strange as a grown man who is so distraught by being shot down from women in malls picking up a kid and throwing him over the balcony, because they hurt his feelings.

Anyways, I am quite sure this will sort itself out.

Ah, a prison rape joke. Except the post I responded to states men accept him, not him accepting them... so he gets to be tops?

a reply to: matafuchs

He is a Muslim immigrant, Invited.
He will get special treatment, special meals, and free prayer time.

Even with a confession with intent. he will not be charged with that.

Liberal judges are extremely soft on Muslim immigrants and criminals in general

If this was a white guy, throwing a black kid, the left would REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE racism.