Black Hole wishful thoughts and the pictures of it...

black hole is a mathematical construct and nothing else...

but see the video first
www.youtube.com...

so... if a black hole has a singularity inside of it, that is of infinite density, means of infinite mass, we do not exist
density comes from mass and mass is gravity as the gravity force is the result of mass, at least it's what the main stream science is telling us.
F = GMm/r2

if the mass is INFINITE, the force is infinite.. we do not exist...

of course the main stream has an explanation to it, why we exist...
the "physics break down" in a singularity...

...how convenient


about the computer created picture...
I think it is right, all the data lead to the picture, a donut shape "thing"

enough density in the EM will prevent light to escape from it, sure...
the speed of EM radiation is dependent on the density of the EM field, sure..
but there is no such thing as a singularity, no infinite density no Einstein black hole mathematical construct...



EDIT... I know most of the people read the first post and than comment.. so I have to edit it to bring some more advanced thoughts that come from the following conversation so it will be more clear...

OK... listen.. we know there are charged particles in the world, electrons and protons +1 and -1 is 2 density with charge 0, if they close enough like neutrons... EM field is a field that adds all that "density of a charge" into the field.. the field density is responsible for the propagation speed of the radiation, YES ! don't tell me it's not ....speed of light if dependent on the density of that field and that is why light/radiation is bend by mass.. ( a lot of mass, charges ) now... if the field is more and more dense, the propagation speed is slower and slower.. so there is a point where the radiation comes to a stop, if the density is high enough. there is no infinitely small point in it like the Einstein calculations say, but it is a volume of size bigger then 0 as you need a lot of charge that comes from electrons and protons to create this density to be big enough so it "brings the radiation to stop"... and all the radiation "around it" to bend around it... the so called Black Holes is not a result of gravity but of the EM field density !

a reply to: KrzYma

my bad, wrong thread!

a reply to: KrzYma

The mass of a black hole is not infinite. The mass is calculable.

The density of a singularity is undefined because it would require that its mass be divided by a radius of 0. Undefined is not the same thing as infinite, nor is mass the same as density.

a reply to: Phage

listen to the video... at 1:04 starting she says about the singularity and the infinite density...

this is what I'm talking about...

BTW. i've edited ... read again

a reply to: KrzYma

BTW. i've edited ... read again

Doesn't matter. A black hole does not have infinite mass. You did not edit this:

if the mass is INFINITE, the force is infinite.. we do not exist...

Nor is the speed of light dependent upon density of a field.

the speed of EM radiation is dependent on the density of the EM field, sure

edit on 4/13/2019 by Phage because: (no reason given)

a reply to: Phage

one thought more... where the density comes from ?? from something, right ?
density comes not from radiation but from mass...
infinite density means infinite mass....

if you say it's infinite compressed radiation... well, then it has no mass and no gravity to compress it into a singularity...

and yes, division by 0 is not imaginable... so isn't infinity

a reply to: KrzYma

infinite density means infinite mass....

False.

and yes, division by 0 is not imaginable... so isn't infinity

Division by zero is undefined.

a reply to: Phage

The density of a singularity is undefined because it would require that its mass be divided by a radius of 0.

Why does it have to be 0?

a reply to: KrzYma

Mass is size, density is heaviness.

ETA I think. Maybe I am wrong.

I will look it up.

ETA Found it.

Mass is a measure of the amount of matter that an object contains, while density is a measure of how much mass an object contains per a unit volume

www.reference.com...

a reply to: highvein

Because a singularity has a radius of 0.

a reply to: Phage

False ???

so... where the density comes from ???

density of what ??????

originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: KrzYma

Mass is size, density is heaviness.

Which is heavier, a pound of lead or a pound of feathers?

Mass is mass. Density is the amount of mass which occupies a given volume.

a reply to: KrzYma

density of what ??????

Density of the mass contained by the singularity.

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: KrzYma

Mass is size, density is heaviness.

Which is heavier, a pound of lead or a pound of feathers?

Mass is mass. Density is the amount of mass which occupies a given volume.

So Mass is like numbers and density is like a formula?

a reply to: Phage

right... so infinite density requires infinite mass...

or, wait...
the mass has to be in a volume of 0...

you think the elementary particles are squeezable ???

a reply to: highvein

Yes.

Mass: 10 kg
Density: 10 kg/cubic centimeter.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: highvein

Because a singularity has a radius of 0.

I don't know about that. It seems like it would have to have something of a size with all that force pushing against it.

a reply to: Phage

undefined.

but this means ...not imaginable... means you can not make a picture of it

a reply to: KrzYma

so infinite density requires infinite mass.

One more time; division by zero is not infinite, it is undefined.

a reply to: Phage

Awesome. I learned something today. Thanks.