Julian Assange arrested at the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I'm sure there is a strong component of Wikileaks' reports on the Maduro administration... I alluded to that where I mentioned Ola Bini. My original thought was that the US had arrested him, but no, it was Ecuador.

It's common knowledge that Assange, true or not, feared for his life from the Americans. Releasing him with the assurance that he would be extradited to the US would be a simple, clean, painless way for Moreno to get rid of Assange. No messy trials, no concern over a rogue judge, just let us take him out.

TheRedneck

a reply to: gortex>>> I think Trump has orchestrated this and Assange is willingly going along with it. Trump was too sly in denying he followed Wikileaks and there are some major groundshifts going on now and those who had tried to target Trump now find themselves being investigated and facing criminal charges. I think Assange is going to help turn the tables and testify against them. So he's safer in custody now and with Trump as a protector. Hillary, Obama, the whole deep state lineup are running scared now. McCain's lucky he's dead, maybe Hillary is lucky now that I think about it. But her body double isn't.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Depending on the nature of the CIA operations then potentially yes, if Australian assets are also named. You have to bear in mind that although the CIA is American, the Anglo nations tend to combine for many intelligence operations globally.

It just seems a bit of a silly own goal by Wikileaks by including that aspect, given what Assange is now facing.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Assange likely has no idea what is going on yet, and likely won't until he is alone with members of the current administration.

I found your speculation quite interesting and even plausible with one exception. What if Assange was advised and aware. Many have questioned the narrative that Assange had no respect for his asylum at the embassy. Why now?

Another post did bring up the interesting fact of Pam Anderson's visit and also her ex playing golf with Trump. Is it possible that an agreement had already been made and that is why JA was giving a thumbs up and grinning while being put into the police van?

Especially with Trump crazily trying to deny having much knowledge about Wikileaks and Assange. Just makes one go...hmmm?

Body language.

Did Assange look under duress or stress on the Bobby Bus? He certainly looked content to me.
www.google.com...

a reply to: Flavian

Well, then begs the question to one of your claims of a new dump on CIA operations that could lead to 15-20 years.

I haven't seen a new dump verified.

Further more, journalists have exposed government activities since the dawn of free press... So I'm hard pressed to see why now would be different unless there was proof of hacking.

a reply to: TheRedneck

I'm not sure I agree entirely. I don't think Trump gives a hoot about 'how and where' Wikileaks got their info. However, I very much do think Trump gives a whole truckload of hoots about 'what' that Wikileaks information is! It very likely is an absolute treasure trove of information he was not, and likely never will be, privy to. Why? Because much of it has likely been destroyed since then. And, I'll give you one guess who did that!

Remember, who was supposedly running the international show at the time all this data was collected? Think: Benghazi, South America, Snowden, Coup attempt in Turkey, spying on France, Stratfor, Trans-Pacific Partnership, spying on the Brazilian govt., Japanese, Haiti, DNC, and the list goes on and on.

So, to your question...

Now... can we get back to being ATS?

Aren't we already?

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

My hope is that he pardons him for any alleged offense against the United States and either 1) pressures foreign countries into extraditing him here (prior to the pardon) or 2) sends spooks to render him from foreign custody by force and bring him here...again prior to a pardon

We will see. But lets face it, whatever he decides those countries will do it like the good little vassals they are. They don't have the will or the means to take on the US

Did I read that correctly?
I totally get your rabid patriotism, but are you suggesting that the US should attack a British prison to bust Assange out, possibly killing guards and any other innocent people who get in the way?

If so then you show your true co!ours, those are not the actions of an ally.
In another post you bragged about being a nuclear power and NATO vassal states basically bow to the might of the US, well don't forget both the UK and France are nuclear powers as well so if you ever get your wet dream of conflict with socialist scum Europe, you will lose a few major cities while you destroy us.
You seem unhinged and bloodthirsty with military power and dominance...I wouldn't trust you to mind my pint at the pub if that is how you would treat your so called allies.
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Not one of my claims, there is a thread about it here on ATS. Which is why i said IF TRUE.

And there is a major difference between journalistic expose's and outing ongoing intelligence operations, which can lead to loss of assets (including agents). It can literally be a matter of life and death. So if true, i hope he gets hammered.

a reply to: Flavian

Not one of my claims, there is a thread about it here on ATS. Which is why i said IF TRUE.

Ah, that you did... My mistake for framing my post incorrectly.

And there is a major difference between journalistic expose's and outing ongoing intelligence operations, which can lead to loss of assets (including agents). It can literally be a matter of life and death. So if true, i hope he gets hammered.

Well that hasn't happened yet. We could play if's all day long... Truth be told Wikileaks hasn't released anything that's lead to a death in the field per the Pentagon (caveat, that's circa 2010 via the Pentagon admin, something may have changed but the biggest military dump was in early 2010).

Hope he gets hammered all you want, he probably will.

Wikileaks has been more accurate than any other news outlet, and aside from twitter they give you unadulterated documents for you to form an opinion on. So celebrate the death of one of the last remaining journalist organizations while you continue to get your fix of "news" from places that are glorified opinion pieces with scraps of facts.

To each their own.

Look at this absolute garbage article
www.businessinsider.com...

Assange's arrest was designed to make sure he didn't press a mysterious panic button he said would bring dire consequences for Ecuador

As if he would press an actual button?!?
That is not how a dead man's switch works at all. A dead man's switch is only set off when a "button" can no longer be pressed. That is if the "button" was physical in the first place.

Then the media expects us to believe this garbage? What an actual load of bull.

On top of that it is completely misrepresented. It isn't just info on Ecuador, and it is being dressed up as being heroes for another country.

Absolutely disgusting.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I have no problem with whistle blowers and expose's, i really don't. In most cases, they serve a very useful purpose. When it crosses into active Intelligence operations that is a different matter because of the potential threat but in pretty much every other scenario i actually see them as a good thing.

I do think though that apart from that aspect, Wikileaks has been massively overblown. Nothing really has been exposed that people were not already aware of. Really, to me at least, much of it has been a big disappointment.

a reply to: Flavian

That dissapoint comes from them holding information back.

If you watch interview with Assange he highlights the importance of the WikiLeaks team scowering material before it gets released so that people aren't put in danger. They don't just dump everything.

However they're vilified by MSM because they don't play ball with governments or corporate overlords.

Again, I won't try and act like they are unbiased, but I can read through bias so as long as someone is factual I don't mind they hold opinions... We all do.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Well, just from a technical perspective, they would be foolish to release all of the information at once from a single location.

Better to release chunks of it from all different locations, that way there's no one thing for TPTB to shut down before all the data can be disseminated. Even at the bandwidth speeds of today, the sheer volume of the information will take time to both upload and download. And don't forget who the overlords are...they're pretty fast and have even faster tools at their disposal than any of us mere mortals.

I had a math teacher in Jr. HS (who was also the wresting coach). If you got caught not paying attention, you had to "assume the position" at the back of the classroom. The 'position' was standing, knees bent, arms straight out to the side, palms down. You had to stand there like that, like a statue, until he said you could sit back down (usually 5-10 minutes). (try it sometime, it's torture!) Most people would only make it a couple minutes before putting their arms down or standing up straight! Getting caught out of position would add minutes to your sentence.

He used to say, as he faced the chalkboard..."I can turn around and see you faster than you can get back into the position!" He was right.

That's how it works with the Internet overlords.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Many people already have all the files and just need the key though.

It is broken up into multiple drops... So they could release the keys in sets.

There might be a drop that isn't as damning and wouldn't cause as much damage... But releasing the key to that would be symbolic and show they mean business.

They could employ a whole host of methods.

This is by far the most interesting and thought provoking thing I've seen happen in some time. We'll all likely be wrong to some degree.

a reply to: CynConcepts

I apparently missed the important parts of the Pam Anderson connection. Maybe Assange does know what's going on and is just playing a role? Last I heard, he was planning on fighting extradition, so the answer to that may well lie in how hard and how successfully he fights it.

TheRedneck

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Point being, I think Trump is planning on bringing Assange's information into Barr's investigations into Obama/Clinton.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Very likely. (among other things).

I didn't catch that as your point, my apologies.

If Assange was smart he would have set up in a country with no US extradition. And no extradition to countries where wikileaks may be breaking the law. He's not smart he's dumb. And that's why he was hiding in the silly embassy for years and appears to have no plan or clue what he's doing that's my 2c.

originally posted by: JimTSpock
If Assange was smart he would have set up in a country with no US extradition. And no extradition to countries where wikileaks may be breaking the law. He's not smart he's dumb. And that's why he was hiding in the silly embassy for years and appears to have no plan or clue what he's doing that's my 2c.

What are you talking about! He was out on bail, he could not leave the UK. He had no choice by go go into the embassy. Dumb lol bet he is a lot smarter than you.